i also wonder why it wasnt implemented into the GFX line yet, i think fuji actually made a vote once and FA was an option to choose from
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It is Finally Here, 907x 100c
- Thread starter Digitalcameraman
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Hi,
I guess if enough people want it Hasselblad could add it in via software update, but most people working on HDR
will prefer more control, line control the number of pictures taken the steps in terms of exposure, etc, it seems like something
to do with the computer, but if enough people want it has maybe done (I guess, they listen about the crop factors).
What you can't do in software is IBISor materializing an EVF. I don't know why some people feel sothreatened
Hi,
You can always find something, niche, that the other camera does not do so one can justify, mostly to ourselves, our purchase.
Since nobody was asking I guess people are insecure. I love it is a perfectly valid reason. Frame averaging can be done in software just fine and better, by a long shoot and with better control. If enough people need it Hasselblad could do it in software, is not like they need to materialize IBIS or an EVF, or a good price
is just taking two pictures and marking them for Phocus or if they want, do basic arithmetic on them in camera.This post is about the new Hasselblad, let's try to keep it like that, everyone knows what the result of an "objective evaluation" will be. Photography is not a public tender, if you want to go and do Polaroids it's fine, just don't come telling me that my Nikon is an inferior action camera because it does not have a crappy built-in flash.
Best Regars.
cunim
Well-known member
Never mind the IBIS thing or lack of basic pixel processing. No EVF so a non starter for me. I can't see screens well enough in full sun to compose or to focus 100 MP. Course, my eyes are not the best and this strange little camera might be fine for most people. Reminds me of an M11. I really want one because it is so cool and ..... holdable, but I probably wouldn't use it any more than I use my M3.
730 g
Paul Spinnler
Well-known member
Is there any metal in this back or ist just plastic?
guphotography
Well-known member
With you on this one, will try one out and see if it can replace my IQ3 tri for tech use and IQ160 V at the same time.
Hmm, in the EU it is about 10% cheaper than the X2D.... (€ 7.799 vs. € 8.699)
Paul Spinnler
Well-known member
Well if its about upgrading a 32 XT gen I to tilt or the back it’s the back.
IQ3 used prices just fell by 30%
IQ3 used prices just fell by 30%
Hi,
1) The Hasselblad X3D Galaxy Plus Ultra will have 8 billion pixels, shoot 20 million frames per second, have 3 trillion stops of dynamic range, one billion phase-detect AF points with Animals, people, robots, and extraterrestrials eye detection, and cost just 15 US$, Preorders are starting in the next 3 months, and the kicker: Rumors have that it's coming with a 800 light years range teleportation and personal protection device so you can take landscapes that no iPhone shooting Instagrammer will be able to take
. Jokes aside: We don't know that stuff, the future is blocked from our eyes.2) The dynamic range of the Hasselblad is fantastic, they are both using 16-bit files so there is not a lot of space to pack more than 15 stops of dynamic range (uncompressed). That is an engineering problem, magical marketing needs not to apply.
3) Why are we comparing the new Hassy to something that does not exists?
4) Why are some members trying to steer the conversation to Phase One? This is a post about the New Hassy.
5) If the dynamic range of the Phase One is so much better than the Hasselbad (it's not) why do I need frame averaging for?
6) The point of the Hasselblad is that it can be used as a digital back and also as a compact MF camera with interchangeable lenses.
7) We all know that for that price if it was about reason and not what you like to shoot with and what inspires one, the Phase One better behaves like the X3D Galaxy Plus Ultra, but it's not about reason: what good is a camera if you don't go and shoot with it because you find it boring?
8) You don't see Leica shooters trying to point to non-existent Leicas every time Sony or Canon introduces a new camera. They know why they bought the camera, and they are happy with it.
9) Can we go back to the 100c?
Best regards,
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It's metal,
I suggest you go and test the previews one. It's not for everybody, For me the X2D is better option, but I don't have a series 500.
Many people just fall in love with the machine.
Best regards,
Paul Spinnler
Well-known member
Well the new Hassy is clearly a step change for the digital back market which warrants commentary given the pre-eminence of P1 in that niche atm.Hi,
1) The Hasselblad X3D Galaxy Plus Ultra will have 8 billion pixels, shoot 20 million frames per second, have 3 trillion stops of dynamic range, one billion phase-detect AF points with Animals, people, robots, and extraterrestrials eye detection, and cost just 15 US$, Preorders are starting in the next 3 months, and the kicker: Rumors have that it's coming with a 800 light years range teleportation and personal protection device so you can take landscapes that no iPhone shooting Instagrammer will be able to take
2) The dynamic range of the Hasselblad is fantastic, they are both using 16-bit files so there is not a lot of space to pack more than 15 stops of dynamic range (uncompressed). That is an engineering problem, magical marketing needs not to apply.
3) Why are we comparing the new Hassy to something that does not exists?
4) Why are some members trying to steer the conversation to Phase One? This is a post about the New Hassy.
5) If the dynamic range of the Phase One is so much better than the Hasselbad (it's not) why do I need frame averaging for?
6) The point of the Hasselblad is that it can be used as a digital back and also as a compact MF camera with interchangeable lenses.
7) We all know that for that price if it was about reason and not what you like to shoot with and what inspires one, the Phase One better behaves like the X3D Galaxy Plus Ultra, but it's not about reason: what good is a camera if you don't go and shoot with it because you find it boring?
8) You don't see Leica shooters trying to point to non-existent Leicas every time Sony or Canon introduces a new camera. They know why they bought the camera, and they are happy with it.
9) Can we go back to the 100c?
Best regards,
The last sales numbers I heard of the 50 CFV were abysmally low, (low hundreds) so this WILL shake up things quite a bit and put pressure on P1 to communicate what their intent is. Given so many own P1 backs, its natural to discuss what that means for the marketplace, how P1 might react and with which kind of value proposition.
If anything, it becomes clearer now how both firms have a totally different positioning. 8k vs. 45k or 25k used; that's two planets without war.
I bet a lof of CFV100c buyers will be new to tech cams or would never consider an IQ4 – on the other side IQ3 owners will consider this as an alternative to an upgrade be it IQ4 or IQ5.
The CFV will open the way for a whole new segment of users towards tech cams ... so its good news!
Except that Rodie HR is still unaffordable!
I find the price astoundingly low, especially considering the fact that the 32 XT tilt upgrade is now 7499 USD ...
Its a fantastic news day, for digibacks – 100 MPX BSI is really good for that price.
Digitalcameraman
Active member
Those are very unique options that Phase One has created with the IQ4 backs. They owns some patents but not sure if those have kept others from developing similar features. But no one offers anything like this and both of those features set the Phase One system apart from any of these new or old solutions. I have a lot of Architecture shooters that just love those features.
Paul Spinnler
Well-known member
Precisely - the market looks very nicely segmented now, both price and feature wise.
Its a good thing as options have increased!
Its a good thing as options have increased!
Steve Hendrix
Well-known member
And one of the very positive aspects is that these are shipping NOW. Anyone ordering today from CI will ship out tomorrow (unless everyone goes crazy and we run out).
This is very positive! Especially with the track record of certain products, like the 90mm/2.5 V lens.
So a step in the right direction.
Hasselblad 907x/CFV 100c In Stock Link
Steve Hendrix/CI
This is very positive! Especially with the track record of certain products, like the 90mm/2.5 V lens.
So a step in the right direction.
Hasselblad 907x/CFV 100c In Stock Link
Steve Hendrix/CI
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The manual (yes, it is already available for download!) does not say anything about it, but I guess it will be the same as with the X2D.
Paul Spinnler
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If that's the case that you can forget compact handholding with the Gibellini (or TC for that matter); TheVerge concluded that the ES is totally unuseable due to the slow readout ectectronics – from the review:
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www.theverge.com
But that's not a problem - the Hassy seems to be destined for the 907 and V camera and for stationary tech cams where its price point is ground breakingly low.
And besides the 907 looks sleek and extremely compact, so no need to actually get another compact body.
1,000 photos with Hasselblad’s new 100-megapixel camera
Hasselblad’s new X2D 100C costs $8,199 and takes 100-megapixel photos.
But that's not a problem - the Hassy seems to be destined for the 907 and V camera and for stationary tech cams where its price point is ground breakingly low.
And besides the 907 looks sleek and extremely compact, so no need to actually get another compact body.
Steve Hendrix
Well-known member
I don't make a habit of it, but I have used the Electronic Shutter of the X2D at relatively slow shutter speeds (below 1/40th) hand held on static subjects without issue.
If something is moving however, that's a limitation.
Steve Hendrix/CI
If something is moving however, that's a limitation.
Steve Hendrix/CI
Digitalcameraman
Active member
That would not work since the flange distance is so great, anytime you mount a lens like that or any of the GF lenses you risk loosing infinity focus. And what more would you gain if the image circle is too small to take advantage of that extra 20 mm of movement.