leaving medium format and use "just" FF? X2D vs SL2 (or SL3)

[Kuky]

For me it’s easy - I need to print big (3meters x 2 meters), for gallery distance viewing. And 100 MP is a minimum for me - 400MP would be even better, even if I do composits. In any other use case 35mm is more than enough for dellivering on 99.9% of photographic needs, if you don’t need to print larger than A0 or if the internet is your display medium. Last 35mm camera I had was a Sony A7r2 with Zeiss Otuses, Hartblei Zeiss TS and Sony and Voigtlander lenses, and I still miss the (output)aestetics of some of those lenses.
But the GFX 100 with some GF primes and Rodenstock lenses serves my printing needs a lot better. For additional aesthetic options (colour, rendering, microcontrat, highlights handlingand maybe even some additional resolution) and added portability I’m considering the X2d with some of the newer, lighter xcd-V lenses.
If I decided to stop big prints, I would go for Leica SL and Leica primes, and maybe some Sony with Voigtlander and some of the newer Canon ts-e lenses, as the good enough option for me - and I would be 100% sure that gear would not be a limiting factor for my visual output. But I’m still printing big, so 100 MP MF is the only game in town for me (the 150MP MF one, I cannot afford it )

Romania?

 

[f8orbust]

I've been mucking about with AI uprezzing of late, and even though it's a relatively recent innovation, the results are already impressive.

Going forward I can easily see something like a 60MP SL3 + Leica glass + AI uprezzing as being a truly viable alternative to MFD.

 

[nazdravanul]

Romania?

Yes, why ?

 

[rollsman44]

Made my Decision and I thank you all for helping me decide. I purchased the XCD 90mm Lens Now I am Complete and DONT have to look into any other systems.

 

[glennedens]

Good choice Dennis, that was going to be my 2 cents For a very small travel kit I've been using the X2D, 30 XCD, 45p and 90 XCD (which is pretty darn close to my Leica M system of many decades 24, 35 and 75). The Hassy system all fits into a Ryker shoulder bag from Wotancraft, small and can carry all day + 2 extra batteries, microfiber cloth, Hassy blower and Hassy Lens Pen (from the old X1D Field Kit).

The Ryker bag can hold the 135 XCD in place of the 90 XCD if I know I need more reach, however it gets heavier. The other option that works is the 35-75 zoom in place of the 30 and 45p and either the 90 or the 135. The X2D is on its edge in the center chamber, with a lens on each side - OMG my apologies I've just turned this into another bag thread, however its in the spirit of smaller options.

 

[KC_2020]

Made my Decision and I thank you all for helping me decide. I purchased the XCD 90mm Lens Now I am Complete and DONT have to look into any other systems.

Glad to hear you've staying with the X system and you made a good choice with the XCD 90. It's a 71mm FF equalency.

Have fun working with it !

 

[rollsman44]

I want to thank all those members that have helped me in making the decision to keep the X and Buy the 90. This will work for me. TY

 

[Mexecutioner]

Made my Decision and I thank you all for helping me decide. I purchased the XCD 90mm Lens Now I am Complete and DONT have to look into any other systems.

We’ll see about that Dennis

Enjoy it!

 

[rollsman44]

Keep an Eye out

 

[rollsman44]

Thank you

 

[rollsman44]

I doubt you would save money if you switch systems. And excellent lenses from mirrorless system aren't cheap either.

Thank you

 

[Paratom]

Good choice with the 90mm!

 

[Paratom]

By the way... just last weekend I shot a "little bit around" with the SL2-S, the M11 and the X2d side by side, and I went for a hike in contrasty light with the x2d.
I must say that I will stay in the x2d system and not leave it for full frame. The files are just amazing, the color, the overall pop of the images, the dynamic range. And not much if any need for post processing in many cases.
I will have to figut out about my lens line up though. I want at least one of the newer, faster, smaller lenses. I find the 80/1.9 beautiful but too big for hikes, and even the 65 a little bit on the heavy side. At the moment I carry 30+65 most of the times.
Probably replace it with the 55. Now 38 is interesting too, but I find 38 and 55 quite close together. If I could choose my wish would be 24-38-70 mm in compact site and with good speed

 

[Paratom]

I like the "normal" focal length for indoor portraits, details, nature etc. and often find 90 slightly too long for such subjects.
On FF I use 50 much more than 75. 28+50 works good for me in FF world.
Why does Hasselblad have to mess with such focal length in between classic focal lengths?

 

[spb]

Good choice Dennis, that was going to be my 2 cents For a very small travel kit I've been using the X2D, 30 XCD, 45p and 90 XCD (which is pretty darn close to my Leica M system of many decades 24, 35 and 75). The Hassy system all fits into a Ryker shoulder bag from Wotancraft, small and can carry all day + 2 extra batteries, microfiber cloth, Hassy blower and Hassy Lens Pen (from the old X1D Field Kit).

The Ryker bag can hold the 135 XCD in place of the 90 XCD if I know I need more reach, however it gets heavier. The other option that works is the 35-75 zoom in place of the 30 and 45p and either the 90 or the 135. The X2D is on its edge in the center chamber, with a lens on each side - OMG my apologies I've just turned this into another bag thread, however its in the spirit of smaller options.

I have similar 38V, 90 3.2 and 135+1.7 - I envisage using the 38V and 90 most of the time, and they fit perfectly in a Peak Design Sling 10l, with an iPad and attached keyboard. (although adding the iPad or the 135mm instead of the 90 - gets a bit heavier.

 

[JeffK]

I shoot medium format because I get pleasure from shooting medium format

to this day, it's the only reason I'm using MF. It's certainly not for convenience.