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Oh dear. Peculiar fabric-like strands on the inside of front and real elements of an SK 120N. Any ideas?

Whisp3r

Well-known member
Dark, humid and still air is a perfect set up for the growth of mold/fungus. IIRC, ideal relative humidity for gear is 45-55% and I try to keep it closer to the lower number.
Humidity is around 55-65% in that room. So probably not great for these lenses. Moving them to a different room right away. So far only one lens is affected, and it appears to have grown very quickly. I'll send the photos to Christoph Greiner first thing in the morning, hopefully the lens can be saved. My 'active' photo gear is not in that room, thank goodness.
 

Whisp3r

Well-known member
best pictures of fungus i ever seen.
the lenaes can be clean with alcohol but only when the fungus is not inside the glued elements, that mean betwean the first and second glass.
you shold do it now, when you wait too long the fungus will distroy the coutings and cant be removed any more
It's inside the glued elements, I think. Great.
 

4x5Australian

Well-known member
Any situation where humidity is allowed to persist is potentially dangerous. Lack of bright light and stagnant air ramp up the risk.
Exposure to household dust, which is full of organic matter such as tiny flakes of skin, is the cherry on top.

Bedrooms or living rooms without bright light - where people and or pets breathe out moisture - without fresh air exchange are prime targets.

My childhood wakeup to fungus was my father finding that his collection of photo slides was infected by fungus, after he'd stored the boxes in the bedroom wardrobe. Darkness + overnight breathing + stagnant air. The organic film emulsion acted like a petri dish.

With that lesson, I store lenses not in frequent use in a bright room in a glass cabinet along with containers of DampRid (containing water-absorbing calcium chloride powder) that get replenished regularly. In one past suspect situation I allocated a small room as my photo room for negatives and lenses and ran a dehumidifier in it continuously.

Rod
 

akaru

Active member
I have lived in humidity most of my life, and saw my first (Canon) kit riddled with it due to leaving it all in a photo backpack. Then I made it worse by scratching the front element due to popped-off lens cap and an errant silica gel packet—silica is hard stuff.

Nowadays I always use Pelican cases and make my own backpack using them, and there’s always a protected silica device in there—and nothing but tight push-on lens caps!

They make padded ones meant for drawers that are “rechargeable”. I’m still not sure if this is good enough since the air doesn’t move. I try to use them often or at least fondle them ;)
 

SylB

Well-known member
You could use the B+W UV-pro device to sterilize your lenses, if you fear that fungus could develop on your other lenses too.
 

Alkibiades

Well-known member
It's inside the glued elements, I think. Great.
you cant see it from outside. It can be on the outer side of the glued element. this would be no problem. I cleaned a lot of such lenses. most of them I could clean fully. some old historical lenses not, the fungus demaged the coutings, but i could kill the fungus and these lenses are still optical OK.
When the fungus is "young", it will be probably not inside the glued element.
 

Alkibiades

Well-known member
Its a good reminder for everyone; wouldn't want my 43XL to get fungus. I might order some silicon gel packs to throw it into my lens storage places ...
this is really scary indeed. But the schneider lenses are not a really big problem, they can be opened and cleaned, thay are 6 or 8 elements classic and easy design, where the cleaned glasselements can be mounted back on the right place also very easy. This will be a big problem with rodenstock digarons that have 14-16 elements. Ones i talk about is with Mr Wenzel he told me that every glass replacemant of the digarons would be so complicated that the work and new optical calibration would cost like a new lens.
 

f8orbust

Active member
A B&W air tight case with loads of rechargeable silicon packs plus an occasional few seconds in one of these every couple of months keeps my mind at ease. Maybe it's overkill, but then again, I do live in the UK.
 
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