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Thanks, Yes, it's a fair point regarding the experience of getting to the image. I don't think there needs to be a sharpness comparison between XCD lenses and M lenses. They can both be equally excellent for landscapes. For me personally, I never go wider than 28mm for landscapes or longer than 50-75mm (in full frame terms) for subject isolation. In fact for both contextual family shots and landscapes, I never really need to go outside the 28mm-50mm range. I guess in an ideal world I'd probably invest in both the X2D and the M11, but I went down that route with the X1D and the M10 a couple of years back and never seemed to get the most out of either system fully. Now, with the X2D and the M11, due to advances in both, we can realistically have the possibility of just one, very versatile system that can do multiple things very effectively.This is truly an apples to oranges comparison, as the two camera systems are so fundamentally different in so many ways. Both camera systems are fully capable of producing exceptional imagery in the right hands, but the experience of getting there is totally different. Even for landscapes, I personally would never choose a M11. I NEED longer focal length lenses, and an M is useless with anything longer than 90mm. I also think it is useless for anything wider than 28m. I need to see with my eyes what the lens is doing. I dont need AF for landscapes, but it is much more accurate than RF focusing. As for the quality of the lenses, the XCD lenses are exceptional. For landscapes, i Have seen no actual evidence that they are not at least the equal of M lenses. Do they have that Leica magic that Leicaphiles claim? I don’t know what it is, but I am confident that in landscape photography, you would not notice it. A “clinical” look in landscape photography is what people look for when they are shooting high megapixel systems. Photographing people is another matter, but I think 95%+ of whats important in making a great image comes down to the capabilities of the photographer, not the equipment. What’s most important about the equipment is what do you most enjoy using to make photographs and what facilitates what you trying to do.
Nothing is lost - you will make a minor if any loss on the new X2D and you can always go there later if you feel the urge. Don't forget - Team Leica is also not sleeping and they will come back with a strong reply to the X with the S4 - all your M lenses will work perfectly and there's hoping that they further tweak colours too.Thanks all for your kind responses. I think I'm prepared to let go of the X2D and 38mm. No matter how hard I try to big up the X2Ds pretty awesome specs, I keep returning to the look I want from those darn M lenses! I've agonised over this and many will probably think I've lost the plot letting go of a brand new Hasselblad medium format camera, but for my needs I think the M11 would be more than enough. So, on that note, if anybody would like a brand new, unopened, untouched, boxed, still in its bubble wrap X2D and 38mm lens, please send me a private message or via email to [email protected]. The kit was bought from Robert White Photographic in Poole, UK (can produce pictures of the invoice and the boxed camera) and shipped internationally to me here in Kuwait, so there would be VAT and currency savings for anybody buying from outside the UK. I will probably advertise it on Facebook shortly before I go the ebay route (lyn4584). Thanks again guys--your comments and insights were very valuable.
Code names for M11M and Q3 are known (Wilson and Rene). I do not believe that SL3 will be launched before M11M and Q3.M11M and SL3 will come after March 2023 (fiscal year end of Leica) to straighten revenues and giving M11 room to breathe. Would assume SL3 before Summer and M11M after Summer given their release histories. Ie M11M is a year away, in the worst case.
Do you know of any rumors about SL3, or are you starting a new one ;-)?I might add it seems there is an SL3 on the horizon, perhaps with a 60MP chip and it will also take M lenses with Leica adapter.