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    Carsten, while I have indeed owned a lot of the best photo gear available, I've never owned all of it at the same time! LOLOLOLOL Bottom line is it's all been the exact same money, just moved around as I moved between systems
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    Nonetheless, I took a look at the Lotus and Ebony cameras yesterday, with an eye on the future, and it seems that for me this is the distant future I have not managed my money as well as I should have, and somehow tend to take a small loss on every transaction.

    I bought 50 sheets of Adox CHS 100 (Efke) and 50 sheets of Tri-X 320 today, as well as sleeves to hold them, and binders to hold the sleeves. All that is missing is a camera, and some way of developing. Getting closer...

    By the way, I noticed at some point that the Large Format Camera forum is in the digital section, but most of the posts are about film?
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    Quote Originally Posted by carstenw View Post
    By the way, I noticed at some point that the Large Format Camera forum is in the digital section, but most of the posts are about film?
    We aren't that anal here and tend to try and keep things arranged in simple, yet reasonably organized fashions . And some folks do use their LF camera with the betterlight scanning back and even MF backs.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jack Flesher View Post
    We aren't that anal here and tend to try and keep things arranged in simple, yet reasonably organized fashions . And some folks do use their LF camera with the betterlight scanning back and even MF backs.
    Great, I prefer it loose like this too. The LF folk are all hanging out here anyway, not in the film forum, even if almost all of them are actually shooting film.
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    The film forum was a catch all for other cameras that didn't have a place -- as well as a place to talk about the differences in film capture techniques. Anyway, LF cameras clearly crosses over, and I think everybody's figured out that we pretty much don't care where you talk about what as long as it makes some sort of sense
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    Those are really impressive images Jeremy. Beautiful tonality, textures and detail. I should not be looking at these. I can barely manage with a 4x5 camera.

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    Quote Originally Posted by bensonga View Post
    Those are really impressive images Jeremy. Beautiful tonality, textures and detail. I should not be looking at these. I can barely manage with a 4x5 camera.
    +1 Jeremy, the first two in particular have a timeless yet 50-ish style look to them which I find appealing.

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    Thanks for the positive feedback, guys. This is the start of a new series and I haven't shown these anywhere else yet.

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    8x10, 360mm

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    My favorite so far. Love this one.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lloyd View Post
    My favorite so far. Love this one.
    Lloyd, is it the much more obvious human element?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jeremy View Post
    Lloyd, is it the much more obvious human element?

    Off the top of my head, a couple of quick things. There is a timeless quality to a large format image with human movement. Harkens back to the early days of the art. I like that very much. I like the setting as well, which is also somewhat timeless (except, of course for the date of establishment on the door. ), there is a homey charm to it. Also, I like the relatively low angle of the shot. I like that angle of view, and it lends a proximity to the anonymous, and somewhat mysterious human element. I think there would be a temptation to shoot from a high angle here, which would add some detachment, and I'm glad you resisted. Like I said, my favorite of this series so far.

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    Thanks, Lloyd, that helps me quite a bit as I develop this project. I started on it at the end of January so I'm still feeling out the waters.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Lloyd View Post
    Off the top of my head, a couple of quick things. There is a timeless quality to a large format image with human movement. Harkens back to the early days of the art. I like that very much. I like the setting as well, which is also somewhat timeless (except, of course for the date of establishment on the door. ), there is a homey charm to it. Also, I like the relatively low angle of the shot. I like that angle of view, and it lends a proximity to the anonymous, and somewhat mysterious human element. I think there would be a temptation to shoot from a high angle here, which would add some detachment, and I'm glad you resisted. Like I said, my favorite of this series so far.
    Jeremy I totally agree with all Lloyd has to say here, its a good critique. By comparison this one just has more soul compared to the somewhat more clinical but well done others of the series. Lloyd used the word timeless, very befitting. At first glance I could have sworn I had just stepped back into the 40's or 50's type of diner cafe. I have mixed emotions about the seat back in the lower right hand corner, maybe the size is just a tad too imposing, about my only nit pick of the the photograph. This is not the normal use for LF but it sure works here.

    Well done.

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    Quote Originally Posted by routlaw View Post
    Jeremy I totally agree with all Lloyd has to say here, its a good critique. By comparison this one just has more soul compared to the somewhat more clinical but well done others of the series. Lloyd used the word timeless, very befitting. At first glance I could have sworn I had just stepped back into the 40's or 50's type of diner cafe. I have mixed emotions about the seat back in the lower right hand corner, maybe the size is just a tad too imposing, about my only nit pick of the the photograph. This is not the normal use for LF but it sure works here.

    Well done.

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    Thanks, Rob, like I responded to Lloyd, it's great to get some feedback on these as I'm just starting this project.

    The lower-right corner 'thing' is actually a trash can, I tried to allude to this with the placement of the other trash can next to the door (comparable shape/form). I was very limited on how I could set up to photograph in the space as they were PACKED for the Stock Show weekend in Fort Worth and was alloted 15 minutes from setup to tear down.

    After proofing the negative I had to decide if I would prefer to return to the space and reshoot without the trash can, but opted to keep this shot instead due to the abundance of life and I don't believe the removal of the trash can from that lower right corner would make it a *better* photograph in terms of voice. It would make it a cleaner composition and it might be more balanced, but I don't feel the image would be better. And if I came back: no balloons, which would probably result in a different composition. Heh, regardless of this I'll still return to do another shot to see.

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    I wonder what the scene would look like at dusk, with interior and exterior light roughly balanced?
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    Hey everyone,

    I am new to LF and am still understanding when to use certain movements such as front/rear swing, tilt etc. I took this shot yesterday, It is literally my first 4x5 chrome shot on provia 100f at f/32. In the shot I noticed that the pilars (highlighted in white) were not in total focus. After going online to find out the effects that certain movemnts had, I thought that this particular composition would call for a front swing movement to get the desired focus to be perfect. Is this a correct assumption? I would not want to alter the composition as it stands now, and if I were to do a front swing, would I focus on the pilars and stop down or focus on the power plant as I had done in this photo?

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    You need not only to tilt forwards, to get front bottom and rear top in focus, but also to swing to the right, since the right pillars at the front are closer.
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    Jeremy,

    I may have missed it -- what film are you shooting with? The "50's look" is strong.

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    Quote Originally Posted by carstenw View Post
    You need not only to tilt forwards, to get front bottom and rear top in focus, but also to swing to the right, since the right pillars at the front are closer.
    How much of a front tilt is needed? So if I were to swing the front element to the right, it should be as parallel as posible to the those pillars, is this correct!?

    thanks,

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    No, that would be too far. It is somewhere in between, but the correction would look small compared to the effect.

    The plane of the film and the plane of the subject intersect somewhere, if you imagine extending them in your mind. The plane of the lens (sideways) needs to intersect those two in the same place. It is pretty difficult to calculate without the exact measurements of the various distances, but you could find it by experiment. Watch this video to get an idea:

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gR4m70xr9mE
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    Quote Originally Posted by JCT View Post
    Jeremy,

    I may have missed it -- what film are you shooting with? The "50's look" is strong.

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    Efke 100, though I just switched to Ilford FP4. I had to send a box of the Efke back as the sheets were coated unevenly--first time it has ever happened, but it's easier to just standardize on one film and I already shoot the FP4 in 4x5.

    I don't think it's the film as much as the tonal placement (lower contrast and a tendency to print the sky slightly down compared to work today) and composition. I would also argue the corrected verticals add to the 'classic' look.

    edit: Also, I process my images in a certain way because they are destined to end up as platinum/palladium prints. I'll often print with robust highlights (think fat histogram) because of the way it translates in the reflective print.

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    long exposure of the Ravenswood power plant as seen looking east from Roosevelt Island. I was very pleased with the quality of the adox 50 emulsion, it was tack sharp even though I had no choice but to use tmax developer, it definitely brought out some very nice tonality to it. But I would definitely like to get my hands on some APH 09 (rodinal) for the next batch. I used a 150 to give a natural perspective, and luckily the image I feel, is pretty close to how your eyes would see this facility if you were standing where I was across the river, it draws your eyes up to the tops of the stacks successfully.

    A brief history:
    This is the largest power plant in all of New York State. It used to be part of New York's ConEdison before generation was deregulated and the plant was sold off to Keyspan and then TransCanada. It's located in Long Island City just east of Roosevelt Island and is one of the primary sources of electrical generation for Manhattan with a nameplate capacity of about 2 gigawatts.


    It has 4 primary gas fired generators and a number of smaller secondary gas fired generators. The 4 big boys are monstrous. The largest being the 1 gigawatt "Big Allis" or Generator 30 (named after the manufacturer Allis Chalmers). It has two sisters, Generators 10 & 20. All 3 are single cycle gas fired generators. Natural gas is burned, it heats up an air/water mixture, the pressurized steam drives the rotation of a magnet, and this creates electricity.

    Smoke stacks from left to right are 40 (not shown), 30, 20, 10. You can see a massive conveyor belt complex in front that goes off the frame, that used to transport coal from river barges when it was first built. The plant upgraded to burning relatively clean natural gas in the 60s. The coal apparatus remains.



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    Beautiful image Justin!
    Love the composition, the rich tones and amazing details.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Francois_A View Post
    Beautiful image Justin!
    Love the composition, the rich tones and amazing details.
    Thank you Francois!

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    Great tonality Justin, I like it too!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jack Flesher View Post
    Great tonality Justin, I like it too!
    Thank you Jack! I'm really liking the tmax/adox development combo for sure, the tones are fantastic.

    Here's another I shot over the weekend on the promenade in battery park city with the goldman sachs tower rising above the Jersey City shoreline



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    This just out of the drum scanner:

    Stovepipe Wells dunes, April 2006 (workshop w Jack Flesher and Tom Tworek). Cooke XVa (645 mm) on 8x10 E100VS. The original is overexposed in a lovely high-key manner but it responded well to tonal adjustments.

    Of course it looks great in black and white, but that's somehow like taking the easy way out.
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    that was a great trip
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    This is a series I photographed one year ago over a period of 104 minutes on the evening of May 31st, 2009.

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    Quote Originally Posted by JimCollum View Post
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    Still a big fan of your work Jim.

    What a perfectly etherial image.

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    Michel,
    Love the last two images here and the compositions.

    Jim, You always inspire me to go with the betterlight scanner one day for IR work.

    Lars, Justin, and Germy, all amazing works.

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    Thanks Son for your encouragement

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    Betterlight, HBH Petzval, IR mode



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    nice I thought they demolished that place!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lars Vinberg View Post
    This just out of the drum scanner:

    Stovepipe Wells dunes, April 2006 (workshop w Jack Flesher and Tom Tworek). Cooke XVa (645 mm) on 8x10 E100VS. The original is overexposed in a lovely high-key manner but it responded well to tonal adjustments.

    Of course it looks great in black and white, but that's somehow like taking the easy way out.
    Wonderful Lars. It's been a while since I've been to Stovepipe Wells, these are lovely!

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    various meniscus (meniscii?) lenses.. shot on the Ebony with a Betterlight.








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    Quote Originally Posted by JimCollum View Post
    various meniscus (meniscii?) lenses.. shot on the Ebony with a Betterlight.
    Interesting, what is a miniscus lens? Is it just me or do these images look different than the ones posted on the LF forums? Same images obviously but they look different. Perhaps its the gray background on getdpi, but I don't think so.

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