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    Tribute to the M8

    Well it's sounds like it's bigger brother might be moving in but I spent a lot of time with those M8's with warts and all. I did happen to love shooting it. So what's your love story.
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    Re: Tribute to the M8

    Easy,
    I met Jack and Guy and that turned into meeting Bob (and Cynthia) and Charlie, and Jim, and Mike and so on and so on and so on.

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    Re: Tribute to the M8

    My M8 came with an excellent provenance!

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    Best part is good friendships where made
    Photography is all about experimentation and without it you will never learn art.

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    Guy, in addition to what you so eloquently said, the M8 also brought back the joy of taking pictures. I hope to have them around for a long while. Thanks again to you and Jack for being such gracious hosts.

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    Re: Tribute to the M8

    I'd go with Mango's comment - I also found that my M8 brought back the sheer joy of taking pictures using a camera and lenses (despite our protestations) that didn't get in the way. It has been, and continues to be a joy.

    It's also been nice to use a tool that felt more like it came from the hands of an artisan as opposed off a plastic production line in China. An overly romantic view I'm sure but I guess you folks would know what I mean.

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    My story is that I have owned one from the early beginning just after the first modification had been done.
    It has never let me down! It is still my favorite camera delieverunbg great image quality.
    Even though you read everywhere that it is a flawed camera- I never felt this way. I even got used to the crop.
    It has been my only camera where I never spent a though to sell it or give it up (until the M9 comes).
    Even though I knew the M9 will be announced soon I rather kept it because I didnt want to be without it for several weeks.
    High Image quality in a small and light package with a great feel/user interface. Thats how I see it.

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    Hi,

    I bought my M8 in May this year and I remain happy with the purchase. It is a lovely camera!!! It is a small camera with which I feel content to shoot with. Let me explain:

    1) Image quality is there.
    2) It handles like a camera.
    3) Not nonsense auto latest magic in way of shooting.

    It replaced my Dp1, G9 and all p&s with a camera with which I can also take serious photos! All it actually requires is one lens; 28mm, but... getting IR block filter for the CV 15mm is a search...

    This site was one of key places with much great info, Reedreviews the other. Much thanks to all posters.

    I should add that I feel the complaints of the M8 were exeaggerated and seems from those who did not understand or comprehend it (apart from some early issues). As example; I fully appreciate that I need to use IR block filters, because by taking them off and replacing with an IR filter I have a competent IR camera! Awesome!

    I do not visualize myself getting the M9. What is point? I have the Aptus 65 for larger MPs, unless... the M9 would turn out to be 24-28MP and with a larger viewfinder... for then it could replace it at saving weight in my bag...

    The M8 remain great to me and a truly lovely camera to shoot with!

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    Mine was a Love/Hate relationship ... lots of passionate carrying on, with some shouting matches along the way.

    I was a very early adopter of the M8, and among the first batch of "whistle blowers" concerning the IR issue. Who can forget the frantic worldwide search for scarce IR filters, well before Leica admitted the problem and offered the 2 free filters?

    But even that early camera never failed on me ... although it, and most of my M lenses, needed to take long vacations in Germany to be upgraded and calibrated. It was a rocky relationship with Leica back then ... not the best of times.

    On the other hand there were the images. How could this crop frame sensor, 10 meg, 8 bit machine produce images that still rival the latest/greatest? That was, and still is, the siren's song that kept me in the Leica family where I would have divorced myself from anything else that I had to fight with so much.

    Things settled down quite some time ago, and I use a M8 at most every wedding I shoot. If the M9 is a step forward, it will be added ... and perhaps take the lead over the DSLR gear ... some of which will be sold rather than selling all my M8 gear which I need for back-up and for the 1/8000th shutter I frequently use with the Luxes.

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    Thinking back the last 2.5 years, since I own my M8 - I must say it started with lot of frustration and hate, as the camera and all my lenses had to go back and forth to Solms several times, before the whole system worked somehow ok.

    Now I am almost no longer using it, as I hate the IR filters and I hate the crop. And this is the reason why I really wait for the M9. My hope is that it will work better (or even perfect) from the first day and will not again replicate the experiences I had with the M8.

    So my M8 is now for sale, as I said I want to get rid of IR filters and crop asap! Any takers? Will make a reasonable price

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    I believe (or have managed to convince myself) that the camera's quirkiness and its slightly "old-fashioned" rangefinder approach have made me a better photographer. It reminded me that I have to look and be aware of the light, to be careful about composition and focus, and inspired me to be more thoughtful and deliberate. I appreciate that and the entry fee demanded by the M8 for that kind of instruction was well worth it.

    Whatever variances that the other, more contemporary/advanced dslrs might claim as "better" are, to my mind, more than offset by the quality of the images my M8 produces. And the good news is, I still have a lot left to learn from the little camera before I'll need to start taking lessons from the next one.

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    I hated it when it came out and waited a year to get one and came to love the richness of the images and once more having that Leica feel in a digital camera.

    It has documented for me some of my life's darkest and most tender times.

    "The market wants a Leica to be a Leica: the inheritor of tradition, the subject of lore, and indisputably a mark of status to own."
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    Never tried one. It was always out of reach price wise. Didn't even ask to see one in the store. Better to leave it in the case to avoid temptation

    I sold my M6 and lenses to pay for some digital Canon equipment. While there is nothing wrong with Canon, it's not an RF system. Now that the used M8 prices are moving lower, maybe I can pick one up and start a new relationship with a rangefinder. With the past problems behind it, it's looking more and more as a solid "affordable" option for a digital "back-to -the-basics" camera.

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    I purchased my M8 last August. It has helped me get into and better understand a whole new world. Not just photography, but everything else...


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    tributes already???

    sheesh! some of us are still grateful we found a fantastic deal on the M8 because the M9 will remain a far-off dream in the foreseeable future.

    my only hope is that they bring down the cost of upgrades....i need the quieter/smoother shutter.

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    Maybe i should not have asked my question in M9 Chat Box... we are all excited about M9..

    But... Are there any mention on M8/M8.2 product & firmware support? There is DMR feeling on this

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    Re: Tribute to the M8

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    tributes already???

    sheesh! some of us are still grateful we found a fantastic deal on the M8 because the M9 will remain a far-off dream in the foreseeable future.

    my only hope is that they bring down the cost of upgrades....i need the quieter/smoother shutter.
    If you are looking for upgrades you might want to check into it pretty soon. I don't know if is going to last.

    I also don't think this thread was meant as the demise of the M8's but more about how the M8 impacted you.

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    Now that M9 is here, my feelings towards my M8 is even stronger.

    I started out in photography in grade school, with a $5.00 camera that used tiny roll film taking blurred pictures. From that I went on to Rolleiflex TLR and SLR (135 and 120), Exakta, Konica, Minolta, Canon, Nikon, and eventually moved onto an M4. That fateful move happened 37 years ago. I took numerous pictures and spent numerous hours in the darkroom. That was my life. I was married to my M4.

    Then my then future wife came along. Family ensued and I started spending more time with my new loves. M4 was side-stepped and P&S took place. I descended to such low levels in my photographic life during those years, but I got only so many hours a day and only so much energy. Leica is not exactly a good mix when there are diapers and bottles around all the time. What used to be the most important part of my existance slowly faded away.

    Life is full of surprises. M8 was born. It entered my life at a time when family life is less demanding - kids are in university and my wife and I had more time to ourselves. It rekindled my love for photography, my old flame. The equipment I carefully stored are now back in service, even more so than before. The M8 provided me with a brand new experience I never realize was possible with the M4. Very different way of doing things. I feel like a school boy going to school and learning new stuff everyday, thanks for the internet, and on-line community like this.

    Had it not for the M8, I could still be fondling the M4 from time to time, and maybe shoot a roll or two of film here and there, few and far in between.

    M9 is definitely a wonder of the time, but I owe myself to my M8. It meant more than technology to me. It gave me a second chance.

    Hope I didn't bore everyone to death.
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    I was trolling for a good used M8 when I came across Mike Hatam's for sale on RFF I think. It worked flawlessly since day 1, and like others have declared, it got me out from behind my Canon EOS system and I am loving it more every day. I take it everywhere and rarely do I not shoot something with it EVERY DAY

    An M9 will be in the works later but for now I am having to save up as my 17 year-old-twins finish their senior year in high school and I am getting ready to pay for college on a cash basis.

    I probably will never get rid of this camera but look to add a M9 when finances allow.

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    The M8 got me back into rangefinder shooting several years after I'd 'gone digital', sold my M6, and ceased using my M3 in favour of, first, a Digilux-2 and later a DMR on my R8. It reminded me of the advantages of the small size and light weight of M cameras, and became my camera of choice for casual walk-around work and holiday air travel, as well as for wide angle work for the magazine using the CV 15mm.

    I'm sure the M9 due next week will be a worthy successor...
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    The M8 at first brought me back to my college days, shooting (really learning to) an old manual everything Nikon.... with only a 35mm lens. I now take my M8 everywhere I go, which carrying a camera regularly never happened when I had DSLR's. I actually feel like a photographer all over again.

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    Like others here, my M8 got me back into the joy of photography and by virtue of its simplicity, forced me to be a better photographer. I had to trade mine away for professional/financial reasons, but I am returning to the fold, picking up a used M8.
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    shot an m8 for a while... meh.

    have fallen head over heels for (again) for my m6.
    Last edited by gallery7; 18th February 2012 at 06:48.

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    with a serious eye for my mamiya 7 with that sweeeet 43mm!
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    I already dream of all the stories I will capture and people I will meet when I have my M8 within 2 to 3 years, but first I have some serious saving to do!

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    Re: Tribute to the M8

    It all started with this large bag of wonderful Nikon gear (D2, etc.) on a trip to Kenya. On our photographic "game drives" each day, a fellow traveler kept pulling out from his much smaller bag , a Leica MP. He later shared some images. WOW! Within weeks of the trip, the M8 was introduced and I was "done"! Then, outings with Guy and Jack, encouragement from Mike Hatam, the M8.2, Linda Leslie, a few lenses, LR2 and I was REALLY "done"! I was becoming a real Leica guy..."with miles to go before I sleep" toward producing the quality I search for...but, we are getting there.

    The M8 started it all...an experience which continues to produce about as much fun that a man can have with a camera. And, hopefully, the M9 will only add to the fun...on order...can't wait!!

    In all likelihood, I won't be around for the M20...but, I can just imagine the thrill of it all!! Can you?
    Best to all,

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    The M8 got me back into photography after a 20 year hiatus and introduced me to web forums and the wonderful people and great photographers here at DPI..........and made me spend obscene amounts of money.
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    For me the new friendships made the M8 worthwhile.
    I really miss the little M8 and its wonderful handling.

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    When I purchased my M8 and start using it , I fell in love with a M8 rangefinder and sold most of my Canon lens. Love taking pictures in manual mode, this is real photography, not point and shoot with auto focus and ect.
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    When I went shopping for a digital camera, the top priorities on my list were full frame, exceptional high ISO performance and "real" lossless 16 bit RAW files.

    I got none of those, but I finally got a camera that actually worked the way I always wanted a camera to work. It was a worth the trade-off. I felt there's more to a camera than the tech specs (at least for what I am really using the camera for).

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    Re: Tribute to the M8

    BTW Jack sent this on to Leica which was suggested by Terry which she thought they would probably like to see something like this so keep up your thoughts.
    Photography is all about experimentation and without it you will never learn art.

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    Thanks for starting this thread, Guy

    Much better than the "M8 is obsolete, retail value reduced, model discontinued" laments in other forums.

    Contemplating a switch to the M9 the hardest part for me is parting with my M8.2. Normally I'm not sentimental about gear (except my Nikon F3HP and Olympus 35RC, neither of which see much use). The first Digital M was (and continues to be) an exciting camera to use because for the first time in the digital age I can focus on photography rather than programming the camera.

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    Re: My Love Affair...

    Excellent thread Guy. While I'm a newbie to this forum, I've been shooting for almost three decades. I remember when the M8 first came out, I marveled at its unrelinquishing beauty and admired its simplicity from electronic gadgetry. But, it was the initial green blob, IR issues, banding, etc. that put me off not to mention the price tag. Several years later, I've come full circle back to the M8, but this time in the form of an M8.2. I recently bought a new one from Ken Hansen, all the high praises about this dealer is indeed very true. It was overnighted and as I opened the box (Leica and Apple must have attended the same packaging academy ) I felt a rush of endorphins. Finally, I got to handle a real "M". My only experience with rangefinders is with the Contax G1 and many do not consider it to be a true rangefinder. I've been using an Olympus E-P1 with my Leica-M glass, which is not a bad setup, but now I have the real thing. I'm still in the 'new love' stage with the M and am hoping for nice weather this weekend, so I can spend some quality time out and about. Cheers. -Norm


    Quote Originally Posted by Guy Mancuso View Post
    Well it's sounds like it's bigger brother might be moving in but I spent a lot of time with those M8's with warts and all. I did happen to love shooting it. So what's your love story.

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    Re: Tribute to the M8

    I've been a Leica shooter since the 1970s, so I eagerly anticipated a digital M.

    I bought my M8 new, six months after the initial release, once its issues were pretty well understood. No regrets. If I'd waited until it was a "bargain," I'd have missed two years of digital photography with my M lenses. I just don't have time for scanning film anymore, as much as I love the rendition of slide film and "real" B&W. The consolation was that while the M8 had a different look than film, the image quality was actually objectively better.

    I preferred 50mm with film. I didn't find the M8 crop factor an issue. In fact, I kind of like the slightly wider "normal" that a 35mm lens provides on the M8. If I were a wide shooter, I might have a different perspective.

    I needed a moderate wide for the M8. Since I don't usually shoot 28mm with a full-frame camera, I decided to forgo a Leica lens and picked up two used CV lenses: the Ultron 28/1.9 and the Skopar 28/3.5.

    The M8 has been with me on all my vacation trips, and documented my friends and family, and done some "street," available light and classical concerts. Since I rarely shot above ISO 800 with film, I found that I could do everything with the M8 that I could with film, and a bit more.

    Yes, I'd like better high ISO, and eventually I'll probably get an M9. But there are plenty of good pictures left in the M8. I've got the lenses I need, I've got the IR filters. There are a few 50mm lenses in my closet that keep whispering to me, Wouldn't you like to use me more? I can be a normal lens again." I'm telling them to be patient, and I'm not selling them.

    Like many, I initially came to this forum looking for M8 information, and am happy to have met such nice, knowlegeable and helpful people here. Unlike on some forums, I suspect that the M8 and M9 folks will stay friends!

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