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    Quote Originally Posted by Arjuna View Post
    What is a former slide photographer to do in the digital realm, when the consensus is that one much shoot Raw to achieve the best quality?
    I really don't understand the fear/awe of "raw." Modern applications have made it a total non-issue. If you are running Aperture, Lightroom, etc, there is effectively no difference between shooting raw and shooting jpg except for file size. Really. Raw isn't some mythical beast that needs to be slain while drinking secret potions (though that couldn't hurt). Most of these programs produce a reasonably good jpg output with *zero* input from the user.

    The only time I shoot in-camera jpg is when I have a camera that uses an unsupported raw format (by Aperture).

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    A follow on ...

    After my coffee time messing about with the G1, I picked up the E-1 and went out for a neighborhood walk, made another 50 exposures.

    Loading all of these files into Lightroom and looking at them, starting to work with them, I'm reminded once again of my years working with slide film. Fussy fussy ... better get that exposure on the ball to within half a stop, better get that color balance right on the money, better really watch that lighting ratio and give up on shots where it goes out of bounds, ah yes and then there's the preset modes for dynamic, natural ... etc etc. And when you get it all within the right range (which isn't too hard to do considering today's cameras and their FAR more sophisticated metering capabilities), heaven help you if you actually do need to edit anything more than a very tiny bit.

    Far as I'm concerned, it's way too much work. When I'm shooting, far as the camera goes I'm concerned with focus, exposure and framing: I'm concentrating on my subject matter. As long as I get focus, exposure and framing right (which is pretty much the same for RAW and JPEG on any camera, modulo the different processing headroom the two formats provide), I want the option to render my photos any way I intended after the fact with a great degree of freedom.

    It's faster, easier, simpler to concentrate on what I'm doing with RAW capture, load that into Lightroom with my favorite adjustments all built into presets and camera calibrations, and zip out a hundred JPEGs in no time at all. And spend 95% of my time shooting thinking about my subject matter rather than 65% of my time worrying about the camera settings and 35% of my time noticing that what I wanted to shoot is now in the next county.

    JPEG is so limiting in this respect that it just isn't worth wasting my time on with this experiment any further.

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    Re: The X1 Chat Box

    Quote Originally Posted by Godfrey View Post
    I meandered about during this morning's coffee with friends and had the G1 set to a modified Dynamic B&W setting.

    I have the opposite problem: I'm so used to seeing B&W images in the color world that looking through the viewfinder and seeing a B&W image is very very disconcerting! I feel like I can't see the subject well this way as I can't see what I'm going to be basing my processing on... too much information is being lost.

    Weird.
    very interesting! and to me that is where the information is just beginning!

    to be fair, though, i've done this from the beginning. and, whilst i have a very good idea how colours process, i do prefer seeing b/w on the screen.

    Quote Originally Posted by Godfrey View Post
    A follow on ...

    JPEG is so limiting in this respect that it just isn't worth wasting my time on with this experiment any further.
    you gave it a go and that's what counts! i don't really ever use my JPEGs anymore for precisely the same reason. but it is actually a good exercise (well, for me at least) as i've learned a lot in the trying... it keeps me from getting too sloppy -- RAW cannot fix all. still, if the photo is there -- i take it, and worry about PP what can or cannot be done in PP later.

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