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    ff - 3-2-1 lens set - focal length

    Now being back in ff-world with the M9.
    Which would be your choice if you had to limit yourself to 3 focal length?

    75-50-28?
    or maybe 50-28-21?
    or 75-35-21
    or 50-24-18

    or just 2?
    35-90
    or 28-50
    or 24-50

    or 1?
    35? or 50?

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    Re: ff - 3-2-1 lens set - focal length

    As I've mentioned a few times in other threads, I'm seriously considering selling all of my DSLR gear for an M9 and a 50.

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    Re: ff - 3-2-1 lens set - focal length

    The answer is ... YES. (to all of the above)

    With the M9 you're back to the traditional lens selections for M's of ages past.

    What works for one of us might not work for you but there's an internet chock full of answers to this question.

    For me personally, it's going to be WATE, 35/2, 50/1.4, 90/2.8 again. That's 4 I know . I might even contemplate selling the WATE and sticking with my Zeiss 21/2.8.

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    Re: ff - 3-2-1 lens set - focal length

    You are not into visoflex and close-up accessories?

    Seriously, I strongly suspect that the M9 is UV (and to some extent) IR capable.

    This opens up a floodgate of possibilities for me.

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    One lens: 50mm! Makes life so much simpler.
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    Re: ff - 3-2-1 lens set - focal length

    Same as when I shot with film: 21, 28 and 50. 2 would be the 28 and 50, one would be tough, but probably the 28...
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    WATE-28-35 I'm still looking for a 35, not sure which one. Anyone any experience how they perform on a M9 ? :-P

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    Re: ff - 3-2-1 lens set - focal length

    Quote Originally Posted by t_streng View Post
    M9 Which would be your choice if you had to limit yourself to 3 focal length?

    or just 2?

    or 1?
    75-50-28 or
    75-50-21

    75-28

    50 or
    28

    But that's me and my style (and it also happens to include lenses I already own

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    Re: ff - 3-2-1 lens set - focal length

    With my M8 at least 95% of the images I made were with a CV 28/3.5. If I were buying one lens for the M9, therefore, it would be a 35 - either a Summicron or a Summarit depending on how rich I was feeling.

    A 2-lens set would probably be 35 and 50.

    A 3-lens set would be 21, 35 and 50.

    I actually have 15, 21, 28, 35, 50, 65(Visoflex) and 90... All of them CV apart from the 65mm Elmar. However I understand from Sean Reid that the 15 is 'problematic' on the M9, so only time will tell if that line-up is likely to last - I've rarely used either the 65 or 90 with the M8.
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    Re: ff - 3-2-1 lens set - focal length

    My choice of lens for the M9 would be a 35 1.4, 50 crom and a 75
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    Re: ff - 3-2-1 lens set - focal length

    28, 50, 90. If granted a fourth, 21.

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    Re: ff - 3-2-1 lens set - focal length

    three: 24, 35, 75
    two: 24, 50
    one: 35

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    Re: ff - 3-2-1 lens set - focal length

    Three: 24-35-90
    Two: 28-50
    One: 35

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    Quote Originally Posted by matmcdermott View Post

    three: 24, 35, 75
    two: 24, 50
    one: 35

    We're not far apart:

    three: 24, 40, 85
    two: 24, 50
    one: 35

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    Re: ff - 3-2-1 lens set - focal length

    Three: 21-35-50
    Two: 21-50
    One: 35

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    Re: ff - 3-2-1 lens set - focal length

    3:

    35 Cron ASPH, 50 Lux ASPH, 90 Elmarit

    or:

    24 Lux, 35 Cron ASPH, 50 Lux ASPH

    2:

    35 Cron ASPH, 50 Lux ASPH

    or:

    35 Cron ASPH, 75 APO Cron

    1:

    50 Lux ASPH

    But really, I think 5 lenses is much better than 3-2-1.

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    Re: ff - 3-2-1 lens set - focal length

    For me, it is back to my film days also. The 24 moves back into workhorse position, with the old 21mm SA seeing less use. The 28 'Cron likely gets a lot of work also. The 35 'Cron and 50 'Cron round out the lot. Mite take another look at a 75 also down the road.

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    Re: ff - 3-2-1 lens set - focal length

    Speed aside, I'm sure that the Tri-Elmar is going to become popular (again) as the focal lengths will now fit the M9 better than the M8. The better high ISO support likewise will likely compensate for the light gathering capabilities.

    I'm looking back at the Leica glass I've bought and sold over the last few years and two of those lenses that I didn't really get on with on the M8, the Tri-Elmar and Noctilux, are both looking awfully attractive again for the M9.

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    Re: ff - 3-2-1 lens set - focal length

    Save yourself a lot of trouble and just buy the lot -

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    Re: ff - 3-2-1 lens set - focal length

    Quote Originally Posted by PeterA View Post
    Save yourself a lot of trouble and just buy the lot -
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    Re: ff - 3-2-1 lens set - focal length

    Quote Originally Posted by jlancasterd View Post
    With my M8 at least 95% of the images I made were with a CV 28/3.5. If I were buying one lens for the M9, therefore, it would be a 35 - either a Summicron or a Summarit depending on how rich I was feeling.

    A 2-lens set would probably be 35 and 50.

    A 3-lens set would be 21, 35 and 50.

    I actually have 15, 21, 28, 35, 50, 65(Visoflex) and 90... All of them CV apart from the 65mm Elmar. However I understand from Sean Reid that the 15 is 'problematic' on the M9, so only time will tell if that line-up is likely to last - I've rarely used either the 65 or 90 with the M8.
    For me most used lenses on M8 were 28 and 50, followed by 75 and wate.
    This would translate in 35 and 75 and maybe 21 or wate.
    However from first feel 50 now seems pretty attractive focal length as well.

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    Quote Originally Posted by dfarkas View Post
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    But really, I think 5 lenses is much better than 3-2-1.

    David
    I admit owning more than 3, actually too many and I am trying to figur out which one will become my "workhorses", which one I might use here and then, and if I can sell some.

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    Re: ff - 3-2-1 lens set - focal length

    1 lens: 35/1.4 ASPH

    2 lenses: 28/2 ASPH, 50/1.4 ASPH ... or 35/1.4 ASPH and 75/2 ASPH (depending on the application).

    3 Lenses: 24/1.4 ASPH, 35/1.4 ASPH, 90/2.8 (or 75/2 ASPH)

    4 lenses: 24/1.4 ASPH, 28/2 ASPH, 50/1.4 ASPH, 90/2.8

    Since a M9 and the entire spread of focal lengths fits in the same shoulder bag as a Nikon D3X with a 24-70 ... why limit yourself?

    5 lenses: 24/1.4 ASPH, 28/2 ASPH, 35/1.4 ASPH, 50/1.4 ASPH, 90/2.8

    I hope Leica comes out with a new 90/2.5 ASPH ... the 90AA is to big, and I didn't like the 90/2.5 I tested.

    A smaller version of the SF58 wouldn't hurt either

    Now to get the M9 before I get ahead of myself here ...

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    Re: ff - 3-2-1 lens set - focal length

    5 lenses is good, but not really necessary -- you can make do with 4: 21 Elmarit, 28Cron, 50 lux, 90 -- I'd get the Summarit for weight. If you absolutely have to add a 5th, then the 35 lux OR the CV12. Next point is I can't argue with folks that place the 35 higher in the pecking order than a 28 or 50
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    Re: ff - 3-2-1 lens set - focal length

    I'm going to go at it slow this time and start with the 35lux and a Nokton 1.1 (I ordered today). I want to find out what feels right and responds best on the M9. I certainly think a 28cron and 50lux would be great to add down the road.

    Since you, my fellow addicts understand the lust for fast lenses, I have to confess a dark and terrible secret. (I'd love to spend time with the new Noctilux on the M9.) I have dreams about walking around with that as my only lens.

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    Re: ff - 3-2-1 lens set - focal length

    Kurt I got a chance to shoot with the new Noctilux on my (totally unaccepatbly out dated M8.2 ) in NYC. Just a few shoots wide open. Since I also had my 20 year old Noctilux I could compare images..somewhat.

    The new Noctilux renders exactly like the new summiluxes....very similar to the 50 1.4asph but maybe even more like the 21 1.4asph color. Sharp.... and detailed rendering wide open ...smooth bokeh with a nice transition from sharp to out of focus. No doubt a beautiful lens .

    Not sure I liked it as much as my older version because of the lack of "glow". The night images with an original 50/1.0 are pretty special . Since I don t want to carry the Noctilux all day its a night or daybreak choice. For now I think the 50 1.4 asph is a better choice for all around use.

    Ok now the way to justify it........build around the 35 1.4asph and the 75/2 summicron. The Noctilux fits nicely in the middle and extends the range and capability of that M9 investment.

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    My choice would be the same as I currently use with my film Leicas - 28, 35 and 50, with the 35 by far the most used, 50 occasionally, and 28 once in a great while. So - big surprise! - with only two it would be 35 and 50, only one it would be 35.

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