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    Leica M8 Best Lens for Landscapes

    I Have a Cv 15mm and a 35mm, the 15 seems to be not the right lens for Landscape. Looking for a wider lens.
    Who shoots a lot of landscapes and which Lens would be the ideal one.

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    Re: Leica M8 Best Lens for Landscapes

    Personally, if I'm going to use a wider lens for landscape on the M8 (I often use moderate telephoto, like the 75), my favorite is the 28. I use the 28 Cron, but got some great results out of my CV 28/1.9.

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    Re: Leica M8 Best Lens for Landscapes

    You might want to look at the new Leica 24 Elmar 3.8. Its relatively inexpensive (for Leica), the FOV is a little over a 28mm, its not fast f3.8 but for landscapes you don't need a fast anyway and it draws beautifully!
    As Lloyd says above the 28 cron is good too.
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    A couple of samples with the M8 and 28mm lenses.

    28 Cron:


    CV 28/1.9:

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    Re: Leica M8 Best Lens for Landscapes

    I have had the 12mm, 15mm and 21mm. I think that 21 is as wide as I'd ever go again. Like Lloyd, I often use a 75mm for landscapes.
    Right now my favorite landscape lens is my CV 28 f/1.9. It has been discontinued, but they continue to surface on the used market at bargain prices. If you have the budget for it, the 28 cron can't be beat.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cindy Flood View Post
    I have had the 12mm, 15mm and 21mm. I think that 21 is as wide as I'd ever go again. Like Lloyd, I often use a 75mm for landscapes.
    Right now my favorite landscape lens is my CV 28 f/1.9. It has been discontinued, but they continue to surface on the used market at bargain prices.
    Nice one, Cindy. I still have that CV 28, and would sell mine, but it's a great infrared lens on the M8, and I can't bring myself to part with it yet.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lloyd View Post
    A couple of samples with the M8 and 28mm lenses.

    Hi Lloyd,

    both are beautiful

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lloyd View Post
    Nice one, Cindy. I still have that CV 28, and would sell mine, but it's a great infrared lens on the M8, and I can't bring myself to part with it yet.
    Yes, IR is another reason that I love that CV lens. Just carry the filter in my bag all of the time and pop it on when needed.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cindy Flood View Post
    Yes, IR is another reason that I love that CV lens. Just carry the filter in my bag all of the time and pop it on when needed.
    nice

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cindy Flood View Post
    Yes, IR is another reason that I love that CV lens. Just carry the filter in my bag all of the time and pop it on when needed.
    Exactly!! (Which filter in this case?)

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    Re: Leica M8 Best Lens for Landscapes

    Quote Originally Posted by Lloyd View Post
    Exactly!! (Which filter in this case?)
    B+W 092

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cindy Flood View Post
    B+W 092
    Same one I use with that lens.

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    For wides on the M8, I use mostly 21 and 28s, but carry the 15 around, and have gotten some great uses out of it on mountain peaks, etc. The 21 I can use on the M8 pretty much without a VF making it handy, the 15, for me, requires the ext. vf.
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    Using the B&W 092 which I have, do you change the white balance. Or after the shoot,which will be red. Then convert to Black & White?
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    This was shoot with a 28mm Summron 3.5 w/BW 092 which I use for IR only.
    Shoot was taken in CUBA in November the City is Trinidad
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    Quote Originally Posted by Scargos2 View Post
    Using the B&W 092 which I have, do you change the white balance. Or after the shoot,which will be red. Then convert to Black & White?
    I shoot with the M8 White Balance set to Tungsten.

    I also follow the processing tips in this thread:
    http://forum.getdpi.com/forum/showthread.php?t=257

    I've created a PS action that includes those steps, if you're interested.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Scargos2 View Post
    This was shoot with a 28mm Summron 3.5 w/BW 092 which I use for IR only.
    Shoot was taken in CUBA in November the City is Trinidad
    That's a beauty!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Scargos2 View Post
    This was shoot with a 28mm Summron 3.5 w/BW 092 which I use for IR only.
    Shoot was taken in CUBA in November the City is Trinidad
    Beautiful shot, Rick.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lloyd View Post
    That's a beauty!!
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    Here's a recent with the 28 elmarit... Not edited, yet. Good color out of this lens. The day was very contrasty.

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    I have been happy with my Elmarit 28mm. Seems like a good match for landscapes on my M8. Would love the Summicron 28mm but my budget does not current allow for it.

    Prob. a stupid thing, but I like the way the framelines of 28mm lens look in my M8's viewfinder. Anything wider would be hard to see. 28mm feels very natural to me. It hasn't seen that much use (the elmarit) since I got my 50mm summicron but I may switch back in a bit. I personally like only carrying one lens when I'm walking around.

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    Hi

    The important is not the lens itself, but the character in perspective it brings! - the seeing part .

    Jack Dykinga in his book Large Format Photography speaks of his use of different lenses from his Leica days and how now his large format lenses have comparable focal lengths - each having individual character. The preference is personal, but a study of the images in his book give good guidance, to be adapted to personal taste.

    Personally I got serious into photography with Nikon zooms, but... I have found what seems my favorite focal lengths for landscape and people photography;

    based on 35mm equivalents...

    ~17.5mm ; (I assume this would be the CV 12mm on M8), for LF 58mm
    (my very wide, for placing one subject with camera in low, near focus and subject in attention, with capture of the very wide behind/surround)

    ~22mm ; for M8 15mm, for Aptus 65 is 28mm, for LF is 72mm
    (my normal wide, lovely angle, I much prefer ~22 over 20mm)

    ~38-45mm; for M8 28mm, for Aptus 65 is 45mm, for LF is 150mm
    (wide but to my eye comfortable so, 35mm is too wide, 50 too long)

    ~60-80mm; for M8 50mm, for Aptus 65 is 110mm
    (for people photo and whenever not use wide, for M8 use CV 50 1.1, for Mamiya 645 use 80mm 1.9, both very shallow DOF)

    ~200; for Aptus 65 is 300mm (rarely used or carried)
    (wildlife etc, and bokeh is nice)

    Interesting is that for 617 my eye is now attracted to images with 90mm lens... and that this corresponds close to 17mm in width and 45mm in height...

    Perhaps you have similar eye, or tad different preference?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Anders_HK View Post
    Hi

    The important is not the lens itself, but the character in perspective it brings! - the seeing part .

    Jack Dykinga in his book Large Format Photography speaks of his use of different lenses from his Leica days and how now his large format lenses have comparable focal lengths - each having individual character. The preference is personal, but a study of the images in his book give good guidance, to be adapted to personal taste.

    Personally I got serious into photography with Nikon zooms, but... I have found what seems my favorite focal lengths for landscape and people photography;

    based on 35mm equivalents...

    ~17.5mm ; (I assume this would be the CV 12mm on M8), for LF 58mm
    (my very wide, for placing one subject with camera in low, near focus and subject in attention, with capture of the very wide behind/surround)

    ~22mm ; for M8 15mm, for Aptus 65 is 28mm, for LF is 72mm
    (my normal wide, lovely angle, I much prefer ~22 over 20mm)

    ~38-45mm; for M8 28mm, for Aptus 65 is 45mm, for LF is 150mm
    (wide but to my eye comfortable so, 35mm is too wide, 50 too long)

    ~60-80mm; for M8 50mm, for Aptus 65 is 110mm
    (for people photo and whenever not use wide, for M8 use CV 50 1.1, for Mamiya 645 use 80mm 1.9, both very shallow DOF)

    ~200; for Aptus 65 is 300mm (rarely used or carried)
    (wildlife etc, and bokeh is nice)

    Interesting is that for 617 my eye is now attracted to images with 90mm lens... and that this corresponds close to 17mm in width and 45mm in height...

    Perhaps you have similar eye, or tad different preference?

    Regards
    Anders
    Good analysis, Anders. I agree on almost every point.

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    I agree about the use of 28 for landscape but it surprises me how often I use my 50/2.8

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    Lots of positive reviews on the 28mm. What are your thoughts on the 24/2.8 on a M8?

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    Quote Originally Posted by steve728 View Post
    Lots of positive reviews on the 28mm. What are your thoughts on the 24/2.8 on a M8?
    That 24/2.8 is a terrific lens. Has some very special qualities about it. I love it as a "Street" lens on the M8, but I would be good for landscape as well.

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    I have also heard very good things about the Zeiss ZM 25mm f/2.8 as a alternative to the Elmarit 24mm...


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    Quote Originally Posted by danielvalentephotography View Post
    I have also heard very good things about the Zeiss ZM 25mm f/2.8 as a alternative to the Elmarit 24mm...

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    Very true, and much less expensive. Jono Slack, here on the forum has posted some wonderful images taken with that lens.

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    Re: Leica M8 Best Lens for Landscapes

    CV 21 f4 Skopar is a very nice landscape lens on the M8. Quite sharp at f5.6 and smaller, and decent contrast.

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    Interesting re: CV 21mm - def. an economical choice and if it can run with the 24mm Elmarit or 25mm ZM Zeiss that would be awesome, and I see it uses 39mm Filters...

    How do you code it for your M8, or do you just leave and deal with the cyan-drift?

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    Speaking of 24/25mm lenses, don't forget the CV 25mm f/4 P with Leica M mount (rangefinder coupled). Amazing little lens that goes for about $380 US.
    Here's a sample (vertical), shot with the CV 25/f4P and M8. The second pic (horizontal) is shot with the 50/f1.4 Summilux.

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    Quote Originally Posted by danielvalentephotography View Post
    Interesting re: CV 21mm - def. an economical choice and if it can run with the 24mm Elmarit or 25mm ZM Zeiss that would be awesome, and I see it uses 39mm Filters...

    How do you code it for your M8, or do you just leave and deal with the cyan-drift?
    Mine is coded as a 21 Elmarit.

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    Quote Originally Posted by 2x2 View Post
    Speaking of 24/25mm lenses, don't forget the CV 25mm f/4 P with Leica M mount (rangefinder coupled). Amazing little lens that goes for about $380 US.
    Here's a sample (vertical), shot with the CV 25/f4P and M8. The second pic (horizontal) is shot with the 50/f1.4 Summilux.
    Good point my friend, and beautiful images.

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    I use a 2,8/25 Biogon ZM and it's just ridiculously sharp. At f/5.6 or so, you're in the lens' sweet spot, nearly everything is in focus due to the DoF. Set your focus just shy of infinity and you can basically P&S all day long.

    Quote Originally Posted by rchisholm View Post
    Here's a recent with the 28 elmarit... Not edited, yet. Good color out of this lens. The day was very contrasty.
    Where was this taken? It looks very... Familiar.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lloyd View Post
    A couple of samples with the M8 and 28mm lenses.

    28 Cron:


    CV 28/1.9:
    Really great shots, and the lens certainly captures the depth and feel. The 28mm 2.0 is my "walkaround" lens, a 35mm equivalent on the M8

    BTW, I had a problem with the front part coming loose. Sent to Leica and they are fixing under warranty. David at Dale Labs says this has happened with a few. Anyone else have this problem. (It immediately shows up because focus is off.)

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    Quote Originally Posted by gogopix View Post
    Really great shots, and the lens certainly captures the depth and feel. The 28mm 2.0 is my "walkaround" lens, a 35mm equivalent on the M8

    BTW, I had a problem with the front part coming loose. Sent to Leica and they are fixing under warranty. David at Dale Labs says this has happened with a few. Anyone else have this problem. (It immediately shows up because focus is off.)

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    Thnks Victor. Yes, I had the problem as well with my 28 Cron. I mentioned it to my local Leica rep (as my lens was out of warranty). There are three small screw holding the front portion in place, and I was missing one, and one of those remaining was loose, and kept working itself loose after being tightened. He contacted Leica service in New Jersey, and they sent me out some replacements. I just check them from time to time, and it's all good now.

    BTW, thanks for the profile, I loaded it (I had the prior versions of your profiles), but I'm not seeing the "corrected" version when using C1.

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