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    Chris,

    Great post !! But, PLEASE don't wait till mid 08......I had BEFORE the end of Dec in the workshop pool !! You won't regret it and then the fun really begins......with a high limit credit card of course !!!

    Shooting in snowy Mt as I write this......doesn't that make you want one SOON!

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    I am very happy with my lens selections, but I wish there was a more accurate way to use the 135mm lens. DR

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    Re: Are you happy with your lens selections

    Well, for those who are not yet totally happy with their selections looks like all 4 Summarits are back in stock at B&H....

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    Re: Are you happy with your lens selections

    Quote Originally Posted by Jim Stone View Post
    Great post !! But, PLEASE don't wait till mid 08......I had BEFORE the end of Dec in the workshop pool !!

    Shooting in snowy Mt as I write this......doesn't that make you want one SOON!
    Hi Jim!

    Hahahaha. Yeah, I know, I know. But I have a pretty good handle on my finances, and if everything w/ work proceeds well, mid 2008 will be the time frame.

    As for wanting one sooner... nothing made me want one sooner than walking the Milford Track (33.5 miles) in New Zealand, carrying 3 Canon bodies, 4 lenses, and a tripod (+accessories - like clothes, bug spray, food :P; in a 50L pack.)

    My Camera equipment was over 50% of my weight. I would LOVE to get something small and light.

    -Chris
    Ps. Psssssst. I highly recommend getting May, 2008; in the workshop pool

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    Re: Are you happy with your lens selections

    I stopped at one of the NY Leica shops today as they were having a demo day. Leica must ship a big order to their dealers the day before as they had a ton of stuff in stock (including 28 and 75 'crons, WATE(s), 24, 50 & 90 summarits and other goodies).

    The 90 summarit felt very nice to handle and was easy to focus (even without a magnifyer)

    It also seemed from Leica that they are catching up on lens supplies and it won't be quite as hard to get what you want.

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    The question is where you a good girl or really a bad girl.
    Photography is all about experimentation and without it you will never learn art.

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    Re: Are you happy with your lens selections

    I was really good but I had dirty thoughts.

    I don't really "need" anything! But when I started thinking about the '75 'cron sitting on the shelf I knew it was time to leave. Maybe I will just order a softie as I didn't know that was a "must have" accessory and it won't break the bank (LOL).

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    Re: Are you happy with your lens selections

    Terry, you could do a 75mm Summarit and only be half as dirty.

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    Re: Are you happy with your lens selections

    Quote Originally Posted by Mark Gowin View Post
    Terry, you could do a 75mm Summarit and only be half as dirty.
    That's why I left!!! That half stop was getting expensive! They didn't have the 35 or 75 Summarits in. More next week.

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    Re: Are you happy with your lens selections

    Terry, There is another Leica Day in NYC next week on the 5th. More Temptation!

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    Re: Are you happy with your lens selections

    Quote Originally Posted by Mark Gowin View Post
    Terry, you could do a 75mm Summarit and only be half as dirty.
    Quote Originally Posted by cmb_ View Post
    Terry, There is another Leica Day in NYC next week on the 5th. More Temptation!
    yes, I saw the letter from Leica! I had just bought two lenses from Camera Land so it is nice to get to know the people there instead if being a one time customer of lots of places.

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    Re: Are you happy with your lens selections

    Well as I had not owned an M in years and the M8 has a crop factor it took a while for me to get settled in. I had and sold a Leica 21/2.8 preASPH, 28/2 Summicron, 50/1.4 Summilux preASPH, 135/4, 65/3.5 (with Viso) all great lenses with beautiful signatures. I also had a Zeiss 35/2 Biogon great in the right light but way to contrasty for me for general use.

    So now I have the Leica 35/1.4 Summilux ASPH and love it. I could be happy with just this one lens. I got the little 90/4 Macro -stellar lens. If it was 2.8 and fixed with the close in performance and signature it has it would be a masterpiece. However f/4 makes it a bit of a specialized lens. I've got a 75/1.4 Summilux at DAG getting calibrated -I owned one years ago and I expect the 35/75 Summilux kit will be it for me. The 90 will go when I get a DSLR or if the 75 can do product shots at f/16 it will go sooner.

    I couldn't be happier. I hate having lots of lenses -one 45-50 and one 85-100 does it for me. I'll probably have to pick up a wide for client work but I'm waiting until I get a job that requires it. I might get a wide Tilt-shift (+ a macro or the Canon 90 TSE for products) for the DSLR when I get it and keep the Leica kit simple and pristine.

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    Re: Are you happy with your lens selections

    Well I just got very happy with my lens selection. Just closed on a mint uncode Noctilux.

    Now I can truly explore what Van Gogh said, "I often think the night is more alive and more richly colored than the day."

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    Re: Are you happy with your lens selections

    I hope I will be happy tomorrow when the brown truck finally delivers my Noctilux. (I had to sacrifice my 50 f/1.4 ASPH and my 50 f/1.4 non-ASPH in order to buy the Noctilux.) I have been waiting for it since May. (Leica delivered it in October, but I was traveling).

    The rest of my kit consists of CV 15, CV 21 f/4, Leica 28 cron ASPH, CV 35 f/2.5 (for my film M), CV 50 Nokton f/1.5, 75 Lux and 90 cron 55mm last pre-ASPH. I have had Leica lenses in the 21mm, 35mm, and the 50mm's, but decided to make the sacrifice at those focal lengths and get the CV lenses (really not a sacrifice, they are good lenses) in order to be able to afford the 28 cron, 50 noctilux and 75 lux.

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    Re: Are you happy with your lens selections

    John and Cindy... congrats on acquiring the Nocts. I find it the most difficult of all my lenses to work with, not easy for me to focus in low light and the shallow DOF doesn't help matters. Still, a very special piece of glass.

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    Re: Are you happy with your lens selections

    Quote Originally Posted by David K View Post
    John and Cindy... congrats on acquiring the Nocts. I find it the most difficult of all my lenses to work with, not easy for me to focus in low light and the shallow DOF doesn't help matters. Still, a very special piece of glass.
    I know about f/1.0's being difficult to work with. I shot the Canon EF 50mm 1:1 on my 5D and have been using a Canon 50mm 1:0.95 converted to M-mount on my M8 and R-D1.

    I'm most interested in how the Nocti's Bo-Ke will compare to these other two.

    I've been doing for over a year now a project on lights in a small Texas town from 4-7am.

    I hope the M8 and Nocti will let me expand it more...

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    Quote Originally Posted by johnastovall View Post
    I know about f/1.0's being difficult to work with. I shot the Canon EF 50mm 1:1 on my 5D and have been using a Canon 50mm 1:0.95 converted to M-mount on my M8 and R-D1.

    I'm most interested in how the Nocti's Bo-Ke will compare to these other two.

    I've been doing for over a year now a project on lights in a small Texas town from 4-7am.

    I hope the M8 and Nocti will let me expand it more...
    John:

    The Noctilux will work well for you. Most people who are dissapointed with them are trying to use them at 1 meter and f1. At your distances, a Noctilux is pretty sharp at f1.

    This is all dependant on the Noctilux being set up right. A good percentage of them don't focus right on the M8 and need to be adjusted. The third party shops can do this quite quickly and cheaply.

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    Quote Originally Posted by robsteve View Post
    John:

    The Noctilux will work well for you. Most people who are dissapointed with them are trying to use them at 1 meter and f1. At your distances, a Noctilux is pretty sharp at f1.

    This is all dependant on the Noctilux being set up right. A good percentage of them don't focus right on the M8 and need to be adjusted. The third party shops can do this quite quickly and cheaply.

    Robert
    It would have been going to DAG at the first sign of adjustment if needed. I also had Canon do a full CLA on my 50/1.0 about six months after I had it and it is much sharper now.

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    No, since the Summarit 2.5 range appeared and after the tests by Guy!!
    Till now I own CV 21/4, CV 24/4, Elmarit 28/2.8, CV 35/1.7, Leitz Summilux 50/1.4 (machined by John), CV 75/2.5
    Sold a Summilux 35/1.4 which couldn't be used on M8 without some difficult trimming and a Summicron 90/2 to help buying the M8.

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    √ Well, with only a 28-cron’ as a starter lens, I suppose so. My 50-lux’ is on order and the 21-Elmarit is a twinkle in my eye.

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    Re: Are you happy with your lens selections

    Quote Originally Posted by Digital Dude View Post
    √ Well, with only a 28-cron’ as a starter lens, I suppose so. My 50-lux’ is on order and the 21-Elmarit is a twinkle in my eye.
    You have just described perhaps the ideal trio, obtained in the ideal order --- kudos

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    Re: Are you happy with your lens selections

    I have 15, 21, 28, 35, 50, 90 (more than one lens for some focal lengths)...I love the 28mm equivalent view, but hate using external viewfinders, so am considering buying a Zeiss 25 as the widest I can use w/o ext VF (I wear glasses).

    My main kit would then be 15, 25, 35, 50. Compact kit: 25 and 50.

    But I'm thinking I should really try shooting more with the M8 and 28 to see if I really need a 25. Decisions, decisions.

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    Re: Are you happy with your lens selections

    Nick honestly if you have a 28 the difference between it and a 25mm is 1 step backwards or forwards. Not that great a difference , play more and see how it feels first the 28mm. The 28mm is my lens cap and i had the 24mm and it was just too close in focal length. Ideally if you have a 28mm as the go to lens than a good path is 15,21,28,50 or if the 35mm is the go to lens than maybe 15, 24, 35, 75. but don't ignore a 12mm in there also which 12, 21, 28 is also a nice spread. But you have a nice setup now and my bet is you won't need a 24 or 25
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    Re: Are you happy with your lens selections

    I am fooling around with a bunch of lenses. I hope to settle down to a much smaller set than this.
    If I was happy or maybe less curious, I would stop buying lenses.
    Current Stable houses:
    CV 15
    WATE and frankenfinder
    24mm asph 2.8
    28mm asph cron (keeper)
    35mm asph 1.4 (problematical near focusing range)
    35mm asph 2.0
    50mm 2,5 summarit (getting to know this lens, looks pretty good, wanna try a lux)
    75mm CV 2.5 (maybe for sale)
    75mm asph 2.0 (wanna get a lux to see how I like it)
    90mm pre-asph 2.0 (nice lens, heavy in chrome, in Solms getting coded and adjusted)
    90mm asph 2.0 (bought a cheap? beat up version to hold me over until the pre-asph returns)

    Major problems:
    close focus on 35mm lux
    21mm 2.8 envy, maybe pick up a zeiss 18 and sell the wate and 24 2.8)
    Problem is the 24 is my favorite european street lens, the 28 works better in US dimensioned streets

    I am beginning to think that if the 50 lux works well enough for isolations, then I can keep the 75 and 90s home, on the other hand... gotta find a 50 lux and the 135 that Guy lent me in Yosemite me worked real fine, but I think its contrast is a bit on the low side which makes it ideal for some things and not for others.

    I am beginning to hope that Leica will make something wider than 21 and at least 2.8 or maybe a 14mm f4.
    That would make my kit
    new leica 14(12?)
    21 2.8
    28 2 (24 kept for euro or asian trips)
    50mm something maybe the lux, for sure not the nocti
    oh, heck I will end up keeping them all.
    Anybody wanna buy a cv75?
    -bob

    Attached is a focus test shot of my patient wife waiting in Photo Village in NYC. (90mm asph 2.0 beater)
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    Re: Are you happy with your lens selections

    Well, I've finally gotten my lens selections for my M8 and R-D1.

    CV's.

    12/5.6
    15/4.5
    28/3.5
    28/1.9
    35/1.2
    50/2.5
    75/2.5

    Canon
    50/0.95 (moded to M-Mount)
    85/1.5 LTM with CV type 2 adapter (waiting on Sherry K. to get it CLAed)

    Leica LTM
    50/2.0 Summicron with CV type 2 adapter (waiting on Sherry K. to get it CLAed)

    Leica M-mounts

    24/2.8 ASPH (on order)
    35/2.0 Summicron IV (waiting on seller)
    50/1.0 Noctilux (waiting on UPS) Keep thinking about a ridged 50/2.0 Summicron for a general use 50 when I want Leica glass but less weight than the Nocti. Also think about having DAG cut down a DR Summicron as there are some really cheap ones out there but not sure it's worth it. I'll be emailing DAG about it.
    75 - going to use the CV until all the 75 Summarit test are in but sort of lean to the 'Lux for the speed.
    90/2.0 E55 UPS will deliver today
    135/4.0 (waiting on UPS)

    I've got my lenses sorted out and think I'm covered with good glass. I'm very happy with the CV for the wider lenses and don't see a real need for speed there.

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    Re: Are you happy with your lens selections

    Quote Originally Posted by johnastovall View Post
    50/1.0 Noctilux (waiting on UPS) Keep thinking about a ridged 50/2.0 Summicron for a general use 50 when I want Leica glass but less weight than the Nocti. .
    John:

    I have always paired a 50mm Summicron with my Noctilux. When the light didn't demand a Noctilux, I carried the Summicron. My Summicron is the tabbed Canadian version from the late 1970's or early 1980's. I have had the older rigid Summicron and the latest optical version such as the one I described above performs better and was cheaper too.

    Item number 160187505033 on Ebay is just like my 50mm Summicron.

    Robert

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    Quote Originally Posted by robsteve View Post
    John:

    I have always paired a 50mm Summicron with my Noctilux. When the light didn't demand a Noctilux, I carried the Summicron. My Summicron is the tabbed Canadian version from the late 1970's or early 1980's. I have had the older rigid Summicron and the latest optical version such as the one I described above performs better and was cheaper too.

    Item number 160187505033 on Ebay is just like my 50mm Summicron.

    Robert
    I think that's a good plan. Gone Summicron hunting.....

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    John,
    I also carry another 50 with my Noctilux for the same reasons you mention. In my case, I have opted for the CV 50/1.5 Nokton. While not Leica glass, I have always been pleased with the results I get from that lens, and for stuff stopped down past f4-5.6 or so, it may be hard to tell it from any other Leica lens.

    So, for the special bokeh shots, the Nocti goes on and does things nothing else can. For anything not requiring the f1.0-1.4 range, the CV 50/1.5 Nokton goes on and delivers very nice captures. I landed on this lens based on some of the reviews and examples that Sean Reid had posted and speaks about, and I have been wonderfully happy with it as an outstanding performer.

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    Re: Are you happy with your lens selections

    I see some discussion in the canon are concerning swing and tilt lenses.
    Has anyone any experience with the Nikon 28mm / 3.8 shift lens adapted to the M8 with maybe a novoflex adapter? I have one of these that has been lying around for awhile. It looks like it is capable of 11mm of shift off the centerline, no swings though.
    thanks
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    Re: Are you happy with your lens selections

    Quote Originally Posted by rwfreund View Post
    I see some discussion in the canon are concerning swing and tilt lenses.
    Has anyone any experience with the Nikon 28mm / 3.8 shift lens adapted to the M8 with maybe a novoflex adapter? I have one of these that has been lying around for awhile. It looks like it is capable of 11mm of shift off the centerline, no swings though.
    thanks
    -bob
    Hi Bob:

    I owned one of the newer ones for a brief period and used it on my 1Ds2 and 5D. It was quite good, getting a bit soft at about the 9mm point on a full horizontal shift. I used a Cameraquest Nikon to EOS adapter, but would now get one of Son's adapters. In the end, I preferred the convenience of direct metering and aperture adjustments of my Canon 24 TSE, and I use the tilt just often enough with it to make it the better choice for me.

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    Lens selection - my first post here

    Hello everyone! As a first post here, I thought that there wasn't any better subject than contributing to share the results/situation of our gear acquisition syndrome... actually, I am trying to keep it small and to control the syndrome, and I ended up with:

    4.5/15 CV (Milich bayonet & filter holder)
    2.8/24 ASPH;
    1.4/35 Lux ASPH;
    1.4/50 Lux ASPH;
    1.4/75 Lux
    2/90 APO

    Plus, I have owned and sold:
    Zeiss 1.5/50
    Zeiss 2.8/25
    CV 2.5/35

    And I own and currently have for sale:
    2.8/21 Pre-ASPH, CLA'd & coded by Leica;
    Zeiss 2/35 Milich-coded;
    Zeiss 2/50 Milich-coded;

    I had a Nocti in my hands for half an hour last week, but the dealer wanted 4.200 euro for it (!) and, it was backfocussing pretty badly - which is, more than the price, probably the reason why I didn't get it

    I think I am quite happy with this kit, though temptation is always out there: 2/28 cron, Zeiss 4/18 for instance, 2/35 version IV... it never ends!

    Now I am looking for a MP or M7 to start shooting film again (selling my M6 was a very very bad idea!).

    Ok guys, is good to be here - many faces are known faces for LUF & DPReview, so somehow it feels like being in a home-into-home... see you around the forum!

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    Quote Originally Posted by vieri View Post

    Now I am looking for a MP or M7 to start shooting film again (selling my M6 was a very very bad idea!).
    Welcome!

    I know exactly what you mean.
    I'm taking this kit out this weekend!
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    Quote Originally Posted by jaapv View Post
    ... what I am looking at is, after all, a DMR system for the Noflexar for convenience.
    It's a pretty good combination:






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    Doug, these are absolutely beautiful and I only wish I had such skill and experience.
    Regards,

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