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Of course it can be focused wide open if its calibrated correctly. Focus shift occurs when you stop the lens down .
100% crop showing focus point on vertical - just a one shot snap from one meter wide open @1.4 - no sharpen
- maybe just a lucky shot..:bugeyes:
now spare me all the BS
T@
Peter-sorry but I have to ask that question: Am I wrong or did you just make and post a focus test ?
100% crop showing focus point on vertical - just a one shot snap from one meter wide open @1.4 - no sharpen
- maybe just a lucky shot..:bugeyes:
now spare me all the BS
T@
100% crop showing focus point on vertical - just a one shot snap from one meter wide open @1.4 - no sharpen
- maybe just a lucky shot..:bugeyes:
now spare me all the BS
T@[/QUOTE]
Hi Peter
at no point in this thread has anyone said that you can't focus the 35 'lux wide open at f1.4.
Maybe you should read what people say before you tell them they're speaking BS?
Yep, it's a focus test all right.Peter-sorry but I have to ask that question: Am I wrong or did you just make and post a focus test ?
:ROTFL:Yep, it's a focus test all right.
And to my eye it shows clearly a slight front focus issue.
But hey what do I know ...
Let's call it a day, okay ?
:angel:
Surely that's something we can all acceptOk BS - was robably out of line - but then again no offence meant on a pesonal level..
for me the focus shift is a NON issue - I guess FOR OTHERS it is.
I thought Bart had is tongue (at least partly) in his cheek - which was why it appealed to this smugmugI do have to say I laugh at the predantic nature of some here - but then again maybe I dont take this stuff as seiosuly as some. Ican't see front focus - b3ecause whilst I 'bel;ieve' I was focussing as accurately as i could from a metre away on a little horisontal line - I woudl never expect to be able to get spot on focus in such a tiny object so ( realtively) far away -
so the comment that it is front focussing - ( relevnt @ 100% crop...) may appeal to certain smug smugs..but to me it is irrelevant and invisible.
It's those little phrases like 'for me' and 'for my purposes' which should allow peace to break out all aroundfor my purposes there is more than enough accuracy and room for user error to make the issue unobservable and insignificant is guess what I am saying.
Cheers!
I don't know, off the top of my head I can think of stuff by Robert Frank that might lose something were they in "perfect focus". That said, I agree with the consensus in this thread that there is nothing BS about acknowledging the existence of focus shift as a technical issue that can come into play (whether you view photography rather loftily as an art form or simply something to do whilst mooching around).I would add that while the greats have many out of focus shots that have become iconic, I cannot think of any that would have been worse off had they been in perfect focus
Can't tell . . . . . . . . . . . they're out of focusIncidentally, is that a bowl of crisps behind the keyboard?
Curious as well to show f/1.4 images to demonstrate focus shift or lack thereof. Try the same at f/2.8 or f/4 folks.....One of the curious things I've noticed on these kind of internet forums is that those who are quite clearly amongst the biggest gearheads around are often the ones who shout loudest about how "the equipment doesn't matter" and how it's all "BS"...
The latest pre-asph Lux 35/1.4 for instance but not the CV 35/1.4 SC....Or I can use another lens for f/2.8-4...
Fully agree. I love to shoot portraits of my family, and I love the look of the f1 Nocti, the 75 lux, the 50 lux, and the 75 cron wide open. My M8 back focused so I had a lot of nice shots with sharp ears--until I send the camera to Solms for adjusting. After that it worked fine and I know that when I missed one, it was my fault...its hard to make a photograph of a person work if the eyes aren t sharp . So I look hard for sharpness in the critical areas and it does piss me off when I have an otherwise decent photograph ..but the photo doesn t work because of lack of sharpness. Its not the sharpness that makes the photo but the lack of it that might bother me.
Without a doubt ...my eyes and technique are much greater factors than focus shift. But I do know that when I have a really tight calibrated lens and body ...I don t have to subconsciously adjust . Its not the most important element in creating high levels of IQ but its enough to matter to me.
Semana Santa? Great example as the sharpness in the eye is highlighted by the dark hood. Its a much tougher standard than a normal shot at that distance.Fully agree. I love to shoot portraits of my family, and I love the look of the f1 Nocti, the 75 lux, the 50 lux, and the 75 cron wide open. My M8 back focused so I had a lot of nice shots with sharp ears--until I send the camera to Solms for adjusting. After that it worked fine and I know that when I missed one, it was my fault.
When I got the M9 in December, all of the lenses front focussed, and I now have sharp noses. Today I'll ship the whole stuff to Solms. Of course, one can try to compensate but why paying so much cash for a prime product, on of the main features of which should be the fast and precise focusing, and then do guess focusing.
Of course, there are also the shots where you try to capture a certain situation etc., and where the precise focus does not matter that much. But sometimes, in particular when you shoot wide open, the visual effect of an image depends on you nailing the focus. How would the attached example look if the focus was not on the eye?
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Not sure how someone defines a photo as a "success?" Money? Publication? Pleasure? What I know is that for me the shots matter, that friends I show them to like them, and that some of them are not any worse than photos I saw published.
Just my 2c.