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    Re: Please discuss ad nauseam, 50mm Noct vs Lux

    Funny John, I have the opposite experience ... the mass of the Nocti and M9 seem to help study my hand compared to the smaller lenses. But I have big hands and the whole thing fit well for me. BTW, f/0.95 isn't the only extra touch, f/1.2 isn't all bad either : -)

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    The added weight makes the M9 nose-heavy; I couldn't imagine shooting it without a Thumbs Up. I bought the Noctilux more for low-light use, not necessarily for optical effect, so in that regard the M9 / 50 Noct combo has come up short. A M10 with better ISO would be a better use of 'my' money.

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    Re: Please discuss ad nauseam, 50mm Noct vs Lux

    Quote Originally Posted by John Black View Post
    The added weight makes the M9 nose-heavy; I couldn't imagine shooting it without a Thumbs Up. I bought the Noctilux more for low-light use, not necessarily for optical effect, so in that regard the M9 / 50 Noct combo has come up short. A M10 with better ISO would be a better use of 'my' money.
    Well, it is hard to argue wanting a higher ISO M10 as long as Leica can maintain the CCD image characteristics and quality present in the M9 ... but until then

    Actually, I got the 0.95 primarily for low available light work as well as for the image characteristics ... mostly wedding work and street where it has worked wonders for me.

    I do not have any issues holding the camera still, the extra mass simply works for me ... however, camera movement isn't the issue, subject movement in low ambient is.

    My 50 LUX ASPH came up short too many times in low light with subject movement as opposed to camera movement ... where the 0.95 tweaked the shutter speed up enough and worked. I also somewhat disagree with the OOF ability of the 50/1.4 because it focuses closer ... the OOF is not the same when you do not focus on top of the subject ... which is most of the time for me.

    I do use a Thumbs up and a 1.4X Mag on one M9 dedicated to the Noctilux and 75/1.4 ... if I could have had a .85 finder with just 50/75/90 frame lines it would have suited me just fine.

    There's another image characteristics of all the Noctiluxes ... excellent flare suppression when specular light sources are in the frame.

    But I do agree, the 0.95 is not for everyone ... The only reason I'd ever sell this lens is because I would need the money. Love IT!

    Here are a few snaps from one wedding ... where the 50/0.95 was used for about 40% of the shots used ... 1/3 of those @ f/1.2 or wider including all 4 of these attached images. The dark room was shot hand held @ 1/15th shutter BTW ... and that was before I got the Thumbs-Up or the 1.4X Mag. Not everything needs less than f/1.4, but when it does ...

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    Re: Please discuss ad nauseam, 50mm Noct vs Lux

    Man, you are one fine photographer, Marc!
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    Re: Please discuss ad nauseam, 50mm Noct vs Lux

    Quote Originally Posted by Bill Caulfeild-Browne View Post
    Man, you are one fine photographer, Marc!
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    Aw shucks Bill, thanks!

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    Re: Please discuss ad nauseam, 50mm Noct vs Lux

    M9 Noct f/1
    PP lightroom3 still cannot eliminate all highlight blue&yellow chroma.
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    Re: Please discuss ad nauseam, 50mm Noct vs Lux

    Muddy, did you have a filter on that lens?

    BTW, I loaded it into LR3, checked De-fringe All Edges and most of it disappeared.

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    Re: Please discuss ad nauseam, 50mm Noct vs Lux

    Yes I do, thanks for suggestion I'll try it. Thanks again Marc.

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    Re: Please discuss ad nauseam, 50mm Noct vs Lux

    The more I see from the new Nocti the more this becomes a must have for me

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    Re: Please discuss ad nauseam, 50mm Noct vs Lux

    Quote Originally Posted by Muddy View Post
    Yes I do, thanks for suggestion I'll try it. Thanks again Marc.
    Consider getting rid of the filter when shooting in dark conditions with specular light sources in the frame, it just causes odd reflections ... like the blue blob in your photo. My Canon 85/1.2 was really horrible for filter reflections, especially with things like chandlers in a darker room ... I got rid of the filter altogether.

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    Re: Please discuss ad nauseam, 50mm Noct vs Lux

    There are Bokeh to die for, color rendering and 3d effect that seem to make you forgo for the chroma issue.
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    Re: Please discuss ad nauseam, 50mm Noct vs Lux

    I think of the Noct as beer goggles for my Leica. It makes all my pictures look better. They might not actually be better, but I sure do enjoy it.
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