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    what is the slowest handheld shutter speed experienced M9 users should be able to achieve with consistently good results?

    1/15?
    1/8?

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    Re: shutter speed handheld M9

    1/15 for me

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    Re: shutter speed handheld M9

    There are a lot more experienced M shooters than me around here but I can do 1/15th consistently. I find the issue of subject movement to be more of a limitation than my not holding the camera steady.

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    Re: shutter speed handheld M9

    It depends on the focal length and external circumstances. With a WATE or 18mm ZM, when I take my time, brace myself and hold my breath, I could go as low as 1 sec (I did it more than just a couple times), for sure 1/2 to 1/4 sec on a consistent basis. If rushed, I would say it would be more like 1/8 and 1/16 sec. Again, using an ultra wide angle lens. Anything else is worse from that; the longer the FL the faster the shutter speed I need to get keepers with respect to shutter speed on a consistent basis. Subject matter and composition is, of course, a different story .
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    Re: shutter speed handheld M9

    depends on field of view of the lens, age, bracing, wind, and ability, and if you are judging the 5x7 print or at 100% by the pixel. I have rarely seen a very clean, sharp handheld image (at 100%) at less that 1/(2xfocal) from even the most experienced.
    It remains true "my sharpest lens is the one used with a tripod".
    So if you can tolerate a bit of motion blur, I am sure that you can hand-hold to 1/15 with just a bit of practice as long as you are not very critical about what sharp means.
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    Re: shutter speed handheld M9

    Quote Originally Posted by gooomz View Post
    what is the slowest handheld shutter speed experienced M9 users should be able to achieve with consistently good results?

    1/15?
    1/8?
    A good photograph can be achieved even if its blurry (think of HCB and the 'Behind the Gare Saint-Lazare' photo), but you mean consistently sharp.

    There are rules for calculating what is the lowest speed with a specific focal length, but they are guides, some people will naturally be better than others, and I don't think anybody is going to be consistent at the slowest speeds. So I would say the slowest speed where you should be able to consistently get sharp photographs is 1/60th. Slower than that it becomes more and more a game of chance. If somebody likes to say 'I can consistently use 1/30th, or 1/15th of a second' I think its more a case of optimism than the consistent and unwavering sharpness of their results.

    So, anything below 1/60th needs a tripod to be consistently sharp.

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    Re: shutter speed handheld M9

    with or without soft shutter release? it makes quite a difference, 1/15th-1/60th usually.

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    Re: shutter speed handheld M9

    Depends on which lens I use. For sharp results I need atleast the following exposuretimes;
    24mm - 1/15
    50mm - 1/30
    90mm - 1/125
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    1/4 with the 12mm Voigtlander if I haven't had too much coffee! with a 50mm I'm also around 1/30. I use a soft release but I'm sure I used to be better on the M6, the M9 has a bit more resistance/travel on the shutter release.

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    Inversely proportional to the amount of coffee I've consumed.

    I can shoot 1/8-1/4s pretty easily.

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    Re: shutter speed handheld M9

    for a DSLR, what is the slowest handheld speed possible with say a 50mm?

    if the m9 with a 50mm is 1/30 fair to say dslr would have to be at 1/60?

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    Re: shutter speed handheld M9

    Just so happens I have a picture of it (which I thought was badass at the time, LOL)


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    Re: shutter speed handheld M9

    And one from the M9 for comparison.

    M9, ISO 640, Summilux-M 50mm f/1.4 ASPH, 1/8s @ f/1.4:

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    Re: shutter speed handheld M9

    impressive indeed, but in general does a dslr lose about 1 stop of handheld speed to compensate for the mirror lockup and internal vibration when compared to a rangefinder like the M9?

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    Re: shutter speed handheld M9

    Quote Originally Posted by gooomz View Post
    impressive indeed, but in general does a dslr lose about 1 stop of handheld speed to compensate for the mirror lockup and internal vibration when compared to a rangefinder like the M9?
    Not really. I find I can handhold my Pentax 645D at about the same shutter speeds as my Mamiya 6 and my Mamiya had a leaf shutter. The trick is paying attention--I might have to focus a little more with the 645D. The single largest influence to camera shake is the operator (and what you think "sharp" is).

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    Re: shutter speed handheld M9

    Agree with Bob about the 1/(2xfocal) rule if you're looking for sharpness at the pixel level.
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    Re: shutter speed handheld M9

    Pentax 645D, 55mm, 1/50s, f/4, ISO 1600, 100% crop, handheld in some really bad light in a snowstorm today.
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    Re: shutter speed handheld M9

    this is 1/3 of a second



    this is 1/4 of a second


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    Re: shutter speed handheld M9

    One thing is certain--a picture handheld is always better than no picture on a tripod.
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