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    Re: R-d1 vs GXR vs NEX 5N

    Quote Originally Posted by LCT View Post
    ...OVF can't match the accuracy of a zoomed in EVF. Focus peaking is also a nice tool to use.
    With wides as well?
    There's a difference between accuracy and use. Rangefinder focusing with wide lenses allows you to align the images and obtain a precise setting very easily in use, but exactly how accurate it is you cannot tell until after you make the exposure and check the results. The accuracy depends upon how well calibrated the focusing system in the body and the lens are.

    With a TTL viewfinder system that includes magnification, you can know up-front exactly how accurate the focus is with any lens because you are looking at the actual image the sensor is recording. Here the accuracy of the focus depends on how well you can see the correct focus point, which varies from person to person, and it might not be as easy to see the point as the alignment of two images in a rangefinder, but it is always more accurate.

    I tend to like working with RFs for wide lenses hand-held because ultimate focusing accuracy is rarely so much of a bother ... just stop down a little and DoF covers minor focus errors nicely ... but when I'm doing tabletop or landscape work with a wide, I lock the camera onto a tripod and prefer a TTL viewfinder as then critical focusing accuracy and camera movement are the bottom line in obtaining the desired high-detail image I'm after.

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    Re: R-d1 vs GXR vs NEX 5N

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    Occasionally you can find the R-D1 available at around that money. At present, there's one listed on Ebay for $1400 BIN from Matsuistore in Japan ... but camera, charger, battery only, not mint. I am tempted myself, but then I think to myself, "That's money that I could keep in the bank for an M9-P next year."

    Although I'm champing at the bit, the truth is that I'm horrendously busy right now and even the GXR-M is only getting light use. I think I'm just going to force myself to be patient and acquire what I really want, the M9, next year when I planned to. ...
    Famous last words.

    Yesterday a clean looking R-D1 with "S" firmware popped up at a very good price. Another friend of mine wants it but can't afford it at present, he's the one who pointed it out to me. So I figured I could buy it, use it for a few months to fully vet the digital rangefinder experience, and he'll buy it from me when I go for the M9 ...

    Sigh.. This stuff is so addictive. At least I have all the lenses I need already.

    Anyway, the R-D1 should be interesting to work with. It will be fun bunging about with it and the M4-2.

    onwards into the breech ...

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    Re: R-d1 vs GXR vs NEX 5N

    The RD1s is a fun camera for sure.

    I swapped mine for an USB spectrometer (~$1,000) a few years ago.


    Untitled by Vivek Iyer, on Flickr

    Epson R-D1s, Rokkor 40/2, Baader U 2" filter (false color ultraviolet capture) from 4 years ago.

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    Another vote for the Ricoh GXR M module. A year a go I got a Nex 3 to play with and use my M lenses, after about 6 months I kept looking at my pictures and saying they are just not sharp. I was intrigued with the Ricoh before the M module, but because of the price I stayed away. But everyone on the forums really liked the ability to make adjustments and set the camera up how they wanted it to work. So I kept my mind open on it, when they leaked that there was going to be a M module I really started to pay attention.

    Well long story short, I put a order in on a GXR and M module when Adorama had their sale price on them. It took 2.5 months for the camera and module to show up but I am very happy and have nice SHARP pictures when I focus correctly. Plus it has a Leica like feel to it, just my .02 worth.
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    Re: R-d1 vs GXR vs NEX 5N

    I now have both the NEX and GXR (and had used an M8 for quite while *g*) and have to say that, as long as you do not really want/need a rangefinder (for the fact that you see what you exclude during composition, which I love), the GXR is superb.

    to my surprise, focusing is easier than with the NEX for me. Mode2 (the grey highpass one) is just so much better. Also, focus assists and Zoom are so much better implemented.

    for example, it shows the full color, zoomed out (total) view when you halfpress the shutter. This allows for a focus and recompose method, that you use with an M oftentimes. Basically, I always have the screen zoomed in (Fn1), focus, halfpress shutter, recompose, shoot. Quite fast.

    The NEX cannot do that as easily. Also, the Mode2 is superior for me. For example, I cannot focus the 28/2.8 reliably on the NEX, even with the superb EVF, while with the GXR I can do this reliably, in Mode2, even indoors with tungsten light.

    the only thing the NEX has going for it is the superb EVF that allows focusing without peaking, because it is that high in resolution. But the layout, controls, and how it feels in the hand, as well as the small details in use make the GXR a much better camera, regardless of things like noise, resolution, etc. Oh, and it can trigger my studio lights


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    btw yes, I love M-Hexanons

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    Re: R-d1 vs GXR vs NEX 5N

    Quote Originally Posted by kanzlr View Post
    I now have both the NEX and GXR (and had used an M8 for quite while *g*) and have to say that, as long as you do not really want/need a rangefinder (for the fact that you see what you exclude during composition, which I love), the GXR is superb.

    to my surprise, focusing is easier than with the NEX for me. Mode2 (the grey highpass one) is just so much better. Also, focus assists and Zoom are so much better implemented.

    for example, it shows the full color, zoomed out (total) view when you halfpress the shutter. This allows for a focus and recompose method, that you use with an M oftentimes. Basically, I always have the screen zoomed in (Fn1), focus, halfpress shutter, recompose, shoot. Quite fast.
    Thanks for posting that! I am now waiting for the A16. Hopefully there is a possibility to use the EVF and the hotshoe for flashes.

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    Thanks for posting that! I am now waiting for the A16. Hopefully there is a possibility to use the EVF and the hotshoe for flashes.
    I posted this on another thread with respect to flash and the GXR. I don't expect anything to change unless they add a flash sync terminal...

    Ricoh makes a dedicated flash but I don't own or use much in way of dedicated flash units. I usually use simple manual or on-board auto flash units triggered by either optical or RF remotes.

    a- If you want to use the EVF while shooting with a flash, using optical remotes is easiest: the popup flash on the camera can be set into manual mode and you can adjust power output down to 1/64 power. Add a little IR shield and fit optical slaves to your flash heads and you're off and away.

    b- If you don't need to use the EVF, you can fit an RF transmitter to the hot shoe and receivers to your flash heads. You're off and away.

    c- If you want to use both EVF and an RF trigger, it's a little more fussy to set up. I got this trick from someone using a GF1 with RF flash triggers: take any hot-shoe extender cable (you know, one that slides in the hot shoe and allows you to put the flash on the other end - I understand the Canon or Nikon cable might work well) and cut off the end that fits in the camera hot shoe. Glue or bolt the shoe end to a bracket that you can bolt onto the camera using the tripod socket. Determine the wires going to center and side terminal ... those are the flash trigger trigger wires, not the control protocol terminals ... and mark them out. Trim back the other wires. Bare the ends and tape them to the center terminal and to the hot shoe shoe itself with thin tape. Be careful not to connect one wire to two terminals. Now carefully slide the EVF in over the taped connections. Voila! you have a remote RF trigger hot shoe camera.

    (This works because the EVF does not use any of the flash terminal connections, it connects to the camera through its own rear mounted plug and just uses the accessory shoe to physically secure it to the camera. It might take a little fussy work to make the connections fit, but once you've got it set up it'll work great. And yes, I wish they'd put another flash sync terminal on the body ...)

    I mostly use method b as I most usually use flash when shooting tabletop work on a tripod where I prefer the LCD or at parties where precise framing isn't such a big deal. I have both Cactus V2 and Cactus V5 RF remotes and they both work very well.

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    Re: R-d1 vs GXR vs NEX 5N

    Quote Originally Posted by Godfrey View Post
    I posted this on another thread with respect to flash and the GXR. I don't expect anything to change unless they add a flash sync terminal...
    Yes.

    I need both. This or that is a no go for me.

    I hope they will wake up and add a flash sync contact.

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    Re: R-d1 vs GXR vs NEX 5N

    I have an R1-ds that can never seem to stay in focus even though it has been repaired twice. I didn't send the camera to Epson though maybe I should. Right now it is gathering dust because I am using an a900, and a Leica M6.

    The camera is great, the richness of the pictures is incredible, but the damned thing sounds like a canon going off everytime I hit the shutter.

    6 mps isn't alot either but it is fine if all you are printing small and / or sending pics over the internet.

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