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    90 Elamarit or 135 Tele Elamar

    Is there a big difference in the focal lengths in use? Aside from the f stop which is a better lens to take pictures with? For a m9
    I know it's one of those questions but I really can't make up my mind here...
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    Re: 90 Elamarit or 135 Tele Elamar

    Any one?

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    Re: 90 Elamarit or 135 Tele Elamar

    IMO the 90 Elmarit, as it is a very easy lens to focus and great ergonomics. The longer FL's, with the M9 become a lot more difficult to manage.
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    Re: 90 Elamarit or 135 Tele Elamar

    No M9 sorry but from my experience with film Ms and M8.2 both Tele-Elmar 135/4 and latest Elmarit 90/2.8 are amongst the sharpest lenses in their focal length. The 135/4 is less easy to focus at f/4 than the Elmarit 135/2.8 (with goggles) unless one uses a magnifier with the former but it is a matter of getting used to it. Main difference will come from the field of view, the speed of the lenses and the size of the framelines, those for 135mm lenses being significantly smaller.
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    Re: 90 Elamarit or 135 Tele Elamar

    Thanks. Didn't realize that the 90 elmarit would be faster to focus

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    Re: 90 Elamarit or 135 Tele Elamar

    I own both 90 and 135mm for the M9.
    135mm is sometimes nice for the reach and a vey nice lens but IMO 90mm is more flexible, easier to focus and also easier to frame. The 135mm frame in the viewfinder of the M9 is pretty small IMO.

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    Re: 90 Elamarit or 135 Tele Elamar

    Elmarit 90, last version, would be my first choice of a 90. Fine rendering, sharp, relatively compact.

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    If you go for the 135: buy a 1.25x magnifier for the M9. The 90, you can get away with out it. For the 135- just to magnify the framelines, well worth it. I use the 1.25x magnifier for the 90 and 105 as well.

    With the Elmarit: are you looking at the "Tele-Elmarit 90/2.8" or the "Elmarit 90/2.8". Very different lenses.

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    Re: 90 Elamarit or 135 Tele Elamar

    The 90mm Elmarit M (f/2.8) is one of Leica's very best lenses.

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    Re: 90 Elamarit or 135 Tele Elamar

    I'm looking at the Elmarit 90 2.8. I bought a 1.25 magnifier already.
    Is there much difference in the reach between the two lenses?

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    Re: 90 Elamarit or 135 Tele Elamar

    The 135 for kids: gets rid of the Daddy factor, as in "Dad look at me!" that you might have with younger kids. More standoff, easier to get interaction between the kids without them noticing you with the camera "as much". So- a 135 at a playground, can be handy. There are a lot of very good vintage 135's that are cheap. For outdoor use, shooting at F5.6, do not overlook the 135/4.5 Hektor in M-Mount. It is cheap, usually ~$100, has lower contrast which looks good with an M9, and uses standard 39mm filters. It's fine for pictures of your kids at the beach, get a lens hood with it as well.

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    Re: 90 Elamarit or 135 Tele Elamar

    The 90 Elmarit-M is a very friendly size compared to the 135 too. I used this as part of my travel kit along with 24/35 or 50 luxes for a very portable outfit. The 90 is a great sharp lens and generally a very useful focal length. The 135 also is a super sharp lens but I found that I used it on only rare occasions vs the 90.
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    Re: 90 Elamarit or 135 Tele Elamar

    got the 90
    thx for all the advice

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    Now that you have the 90mm, consider buying an older (version 1) 135mm. Compared to other Leica lenses they are a bargain at $400 - $500, so sharp that a Leica salesman once said he didn't think the new Apo 135mm was worth an upgrade from version 1. The difference in focal length is significant enough to have both a 90 and 135. 135 framelines are larger that 1x when the 1.25x and 1.4x magnifiers are stacked, this makes framing as easy as a 50mm, no more tunnel view.

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    Re: 90 Elamarit or 135 Tele Elamar

    I have both the Elmarit-M 90mm f/2.8 and Tele-Elmar-M 135mm f/4 and find them both to be very similar... The diameter is the same, though obviously the 135 is longer. Both are outstanding from wide open. The 90 used to be the killer bargain in the Leica lens line, but the M9 drove the prices up to maybe 1.5x in the past year and half (the 135 is still a bargain). I have no problems focusing and/or using them on the M8, M9 or with film.

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    Re: 90 Elamarit or 135 Tele Elamar

    the tele elmar 135 f/4 with the slide out hood is $1500+...i guess the version before that is a bargain...

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    Re: 90 Elamarit or 135 Tele Elamar

    Sure it is. The version before the first Tele-Elmar is even cheaper. Was the Elmar 135/4. Great lens for travels as it is very light in spite of its tall length. But what a sharp lens indeed.

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    Re: 90 Elamarit or 135 Tele Elamar

    A 135 for reach. A 75 for isolation. If your subjects are highly dynamic, a 70-200 on an AF DSLR.

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    Re: 90 Elamarit or 135 Tele Elamar

    I have the last 135/4 model with the clip-on hood, and while a fine lens I wouldn't say it's all that sharp. It's borderline on the M9 at f/8 where mine peaks. It takes quite a bit of sharpening to bring out fine texture and I will probably eventually get the current APO. This is compounded by it being a lens used for reach, so it will pick up lots of haze. A 39mm Kasemann pola helps tremendously, but there goes any hope of handholding/leaning/bracing (and don't believe the B&H pages that say 1-2 stops; it's really 3-4 stops for distant objects). Because of the sharpening needed I don't recommend shooting this lens beyond ISO 200 on the M9. The T-E has lovely bokeh, rendering, and color, but it does lack slightly in texture definition.

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