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Noctilux : 1.0 to 0.95 : anyone not happy ?

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proenca

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f 1 said:
Look at my name. I'll never change it.

I had the new version of the Noctilux for testing, a really perfect objectively.

But, It's like a woman. Who really wants a perfect wife? :D:D
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to be honest, I might being to harsh on the new lens.

have to use it more.

now : perfect wife ? I do.

wait : already got one : wouldnt change a single hair on that woman. she is THAT perfect - for me.

might not be everyone cup of tea, but for me, she is the most complete, gorgeous and beautifull being on the universe .;)
 
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proenca

Member
docmoore said:
I wonder if the previous suggestion of adding a vignette in post could be expanded to two layers...one for vignette and another for a varient of Gaussian Blur in those cases that you want the older lens' look.

Each effect could be applied and manipulated independently and without changing the original picture.

Bob
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too much work :)

I simply have to use it more, honestly. but initially, I'm a tad dissapointed with the lens - just "too" perfect.

like cars I guess - new cars are, without a doubt, super performance, highly economical, aerodynamic perfect and all that jazz - but classics have something special.

Perhaps I put my expectations too high for the most expensive Leica lens ever ? dunno, time will tell.

Good thing about Leica lens : never lost any money on a single lens since I first bought my first one. :thumbup:
 
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algrove

Well-known member
I have decided to keep my Mandler lenses even though the newer varieties are very crisp with good contrast. Actually it is the 75/1.4 that convinced me to keep the other Mandlers the 1.0 included. Now when I get my MM I can put the 1.0 on my M9P and the 0.95 on the MM.

If your 1.0 does not satisfy send it to Leica for a calibration check. I have now done that with all my older (Mandler) lenses that could be 6 bit coded and it was well worth the wait and expense.

P.S. As far as cars go, the older ones have a corner of my heart, especially my original one owner Ruf CTR Yellowbird light weight. Heck, it still beats new Ferraris on the Daytona track during PCA events. 0-60 in around 3 seconds sure keeps the ticker going even for an old fart like me!
 
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D&A

Well-known member
algrove said:
I have decided to keep my Mandler lenses even though the newer varieties are very crisp with good contrast. Actually it is the 75/1.4 that convinced me to keep the other Mandlers the 1.0 included. Now when I get my MM I can put the 1.0 on my M9P and the 0.95 on the MM.

If your 1.0 does not satisfy send it to Leica for a calibration check. I have now done that with all my older (Mandler) lenses that could be 6 bit coded and it was well worth the wait and expense.

P.S. As far as cars go, the older ones have a corner of my heart, especially my original one owner Ruf CTR Yellowbird light weight. Heck, it still beats new Ferraris on the Daytona track during PCA events. 0-60 in around 3 seconds sure keeps the ticker going even for an old fart like me!
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I like both Mandler era designed lenses as well as many of the more modern ones. It all depends what I am shooting. If it was me personally, I would possible put a 50mm f1 on the MM giving B&W images that classic look of a bygone era and save the 0.95 for a M9 or M10 camera. Of course I should be so lucky to own these and other lenses (a few which I did at one time or another). The 75mm Lux I could envision would be great woith both cameras (the MM and M9/M10)....depending what f-stop was selected and subject matter being photographed. Of course there is no right or wrong, just ones own personal vision.

Dave (D&A)
 
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Paratom

Well-known member
Ok,
here I admit that I had a love-hate relation ship with the 1.0 Noctilux. Love because when you hit the focus and for certain scenes it produces a unique look. Hate because it was hit or miss.

The Nocti 0.95 I only have a love relationship. I love the color, I love the bokeh, I love the overall look, I have it much much better under control. The only disadvantages I see are price (however the value is pretty stable) and weight (my biggest concern).

But I am also somebody who sold his 75/1.4 3 years ago and never looked back. Why because I can focus both the Summarit (or lately the 75 Summicron) easier, faster, more reliable.
I dont find the newer designs to produce "clinical" look. I would call it "powerfull" look with deep colors and good contrast.
 
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proenca

Member
algrove said:
I have decided to keep my Mandler lenses even though the newer varieties are very crisp with good contrast. Actually it is the 75/1.4 that convinced me to keep the other Mandlers the 1.0 included. Now when I get my MM I can put the 1.0 on my M9P and the 0.95 on the MM.

P.S. As far as cars go, the older ones have a corner of my heart, especially my original one owner Ruf CTR Yellowbird light weight. Heck, it still beats new Ferraris on the Daytona track during PCA events. 0-60 in around 3 seconds sure keeps the ticker going even for an old fart like me!
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You are spot on : 1.0 should be brilliant on the MM - the flatter contrast and swirlier bokeh would suit the MM perfectly.

Oh well, couldnt justifiy to keep both - hurts that my 1.0 was a perfect copy in terms of focus shift.

Don't start talking about Porsches - my Turbo is my pride and joy and gosh... REALLY ? CTR Yellowbird LW ? mateeeeeeeeeeee... in Leica terms my Porsche is a Zeiss 35 2.8 and that is a Noctilix 0.95 ASPH :) keep that baby forever :)
 
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algrove

Well-known member
Just a suggestion, but anyone with an older lens that does not seem right focusing wise or any other way, send it in to Leica for a 6 bit coding and they will do the calibration/specification check included in the price.

In the US it's only USD130 for this service including the 6 bit coding.
 
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proenca

Member
algrove said:
Just a suggestion, but anyone with an older lens that does not seem right focusing wise or any other way, send it in to Leica for a 6 bit coding and they will do the calibration/specification check included in the price.

In the US it's only USD130 for this service including the 6 bit coding.
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good tip ; however, to have spot on focusing, please be aware that you must send the camera as well ( aware in the sense that you will be without camera for the timeframe of the coding/adjustment )

takes abour 3 weeks turnaround time - 180 euros if I recall correctly.
 
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algrove

Well-known member
proenca said:
good tip ; however, to have spot on focusing, please be aware that you must send the camera as well ( aware in the sense that you will be without camera for the timeframe of the coding/adjustment )

takes abour 3 weeks turnaround time - 180 euros if I recall correctly.
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All the more reason to own for than one M.
 
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asiafish

Member
Hosermage said:
Hi Stephen, so that begs the question: does it still make sense to keep both the lux and the noct? I suppose the size different will be the only factor to choose the lux over noct?
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I’d say no. I sold my 50 Lux ASPH to buy the f/0.95 and use it as my primary 50. When I absolutely want to go small and/or light I use my50 Cron (non APO) or my 1937 vintage 5cm f/1.5 Sonnar, which is even smaller and lighter, though far less perfect.
 
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jlindstrom

Member
You just succesfully revived a 5 years old thread :lecture:

That being said, the .95 is my ”daily driver”. No need for other 50’s.
 
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DB5

Member
My 0.95 lives on my M. A truly remarkable lens. Not just how sharp it is, it's the colour and tonality, wonderful.
 
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Jack

Sr. Administrator
Staff member
I only have one to thing to say about this: Mandler was a GOD of lens design and the resulting character.





(And I'm willing fight with anybody who disagrees.) :ROTFL:




Computers and aspheric elements can render more perfect optical performance, but perfection in optical performance for creative imaging is significantly over-rated --- lest you have a specific need for it, and I submit ultra-wide-aperture/shallow DOF imaging is not going to require that need... Any of us present or past Leica photographers with a predominant amount of gray hair, know and respect the capabilities of Mandler lenses. If I were to resurge to Leica M, I would immediately buy a 28/2 Cron (it drew exceptionally well, but not certain it was a Mandler lens -- had to at least be one of his contemporaries :D ), pre-asph 50 and 75 Summilux's, and probably a 21/2.8 Elmarit as well; and in R I wouldn't even consider a body unless I could also immediately buy a 19/2.8 and an 80/1.4.

PS: We used to refer the specific Mandler-style look as "juice" :D
 
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