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    Thanks, not so polite, but still refreshing in a way ...

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    It bothers me that this Lloyd might be confused with our Lloyd!

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    Maybe he forgot his meds?

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    Re: Digilloyd on MM (and other cams)

    All it is is the flip side of the Leica worship one often (or usually) sees.

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    I just wasted five minutes of my life...

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    Do we care? If it works for you, great! If not, move on.

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    Re: Digilloyd on MM (and other cams)

    Funny, in an undergraduate sort of way.

    Nice to see someone shooting at the sacred cows.

    Doesn't change my view of the MM - it's a remarkable tool for someone who has been looking for something like it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Woody Campbell View Post
    Nice to see someone shooting at the sacred cows.
    And which cow is sacred? Cameras are cameras and most of the bias and opinion about them tend to be in the mind of the beholder, just like in this article. You can look at any camera tech specs and see what it is. Then it is a matter if it has some value to you. Most of this kind of moaning is more about the author boosting his ego. The fact that he even thinks profanity is cool, just marginalizes the opinions even more--using swear words is cheap comedy.

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    Sacred cows only exist in the minds and hearts of those who wish to shoot them down.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Shashin View Post
    And which cow is sacred? Cameras are cameras and most of the bias and opinion about them tend to be in the mind of the beholder, just like in this article. You can look at any camera tech specs and see what it is. Then it is a matter if it has some value to you. Most of this kind of moaning is more about the author boosting his ego. The fact that he even thinks profanity is cool, just marginalizes the opinions even more--using swear words is cheap comedy.
    You had to ask which sacred cow. OMG, how long have you been here. Starts with a L and ends in a Red Dot.

    I wont comment on another forum owners comments but I did laugh my *** off.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Vivek View Post
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    at least he didnt post this in the paid area
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    Quote Originally Posted by Paratom View Post
    at least he didnt post this in the paid area
    If he has, I would not know it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Woody Campbell View Post
    Funny, in an undergraduate sort of way.

    Nice to see someone shooting at the sacred cows.

    Doesn't change my view of the MM - it's a remarkable tool for someone who has been looking for something like it.
    Just had a look at your one photo a day website,excellent shots,you certainly how to use a rangefinder ...

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    Quote Originally Posted by RVB View Post
    Just had a look at your one photo a day website,excellent shots,you certainly how to use a rangefinder ...
    Thanks - so far an unbroken record (knock on wood) of at least one photo a day for 1055 days.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Guy Mancuso View Post
    You had to ask which sacred cow. OMG, how long have you been here. Starts with a L and ends in a Red Dot.

    I wont comment on another forum owners comments but I did laugh my *** off.
    Lomo??

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    I like it :-) and he is right

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    I re-read it. I have no problem with the language but I also just dont understand what he means. Maybe because english is not my native language.

    I think making the MM without a red dot is a clever move. Now nobody can say that I paid part of the money for my MM just for the red dot.

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    I'm glad that I did not pay to read his crap. I can assume that the rest of the site is just as professional.

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    "I can assume that the rest of the site is just as professional."

    That's the problem with small sample size. You read one of a thousand posts and decide the other 999 are crap.

    I can see deciding not to read Lloyd based on a single post; you could conclude that his style is not your cup of tea. But that's not much of a basis for deciding that he's unprofessional. There are posters here who intentionally stir things up, and I don't read much of what they have to say, but that doesn't mean that they don't know anything.

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    Reads like Lloyd thought he was being clever. But it comes across as sophmoric to me. Definitely lowered my view of a guy of whom I had a pretty solid impression. The Mel Gibson effect.

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    John,

    I agree. It's the kind of thing I might say in a private rant, but wouldn't write in an internet forum, and certainly not on my own website.

    I'm a lawyer, and I often say things about judges, but not to the judges.

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    No disrespect to anyone, but I have real differences on his computer testing methodology. Just not reality-based.
    As far as I am concerned his rant just was more of the same but in more colorful language.
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    Quote Originally Posted by stephengilbert View Post
    John,

    I agree. It's the kind of thing I might say in a private rant, but wouldn't write in an internet forum, and certainly not on my own website.

    I'm a lawyer, and I often say things about judges, but not to the judges.

    Steve

    LOL I write them but wind up deleting them before i post. My way of venting without anyone knowing. LOL

    Yes i have learned over the years. LOL
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    Quote Originally Posted by stephengilbert View Post
    John,

    I agree. It's the kind of thing I might say in a private rant, but wouldn't write in an internet forum, and certainly not on my own website.

    I'm a lawyer, and I often say things about judges, but not to the judges.

    Steve
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    I was really surprised about the candor in the car but once they left it it was as if they had not said a thing.

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    Quote Originally Posted by stephengilbert View Post
    "I can assume that the rest of the site is just as professional."

    That's the problem with small sample size. You read one of a thousand posts and decide the other 999 are crap.

    I can see deciding not to read Lloyd based on a single post; you could conclude that his style is not your cup of tea. But that's not much of a basis for deciding that he's unprofessional. There are posters here who intentionally stir things up, and I don't read much of what they have to say, but that doesn't mean that they don't know anything.
    It's more the problem of the person behaving in a truly unprofessional manner on a site that he expects people to pay to read what he has to say.

    Sometimes a sample size of one say more about the person than all the others combined. Either the old "showing his true colors" comes across in this post, or at least a complete lack of respect for anyone reading the blog.

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    I was on Lloyds site for a while and on Reids site. I am no longer on either. With Lloyd I could count on his opinions being right on, with Reid his not so much. If he got pissed becasue he could not find the perfect product more power to him. Reid well he loved lenses that to me were crap the 50 voitlander and 15 voigt, felt like my time and energy were wasted. I have never had a bad piece of advice form lloyd. the onluy thing I was a miss about was I have no problem focusing leica M 9's

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