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    Your 3 favorite M-lenses...

    Time for another favorite lens post...
    I am looking for some input because I want to reduce my M lens kit.
    My problem-I find a reason for each lens I have to keep it.
    Thats why I take the different approach, I ask myself which are my favortite lenses and why.
    So here I go:
    #1: 50 Noctilux, -> I like the 50mm fov a lot-just right for me to be close to the subject but not too close.
    #2: 75/2.0 - it forces me to fill the viewfinder. Sometimes I feel that its too tight but in the end the images turn out good

    #3:21/2.8 I really like it to catch the atmpshpere inside rooms, or outside when there is a group of people. I tried to use 24/1.4mm for some time and its a great lens but over the past months I re-explored how much I like the 21/2.8. The 24 to me sometimes looks in between wide and ultra wide so my preference is more towards 21mm.

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    Re: Your 3 favorite M-lenses...

    Much as I enjoy 'what if' games, I have to counsel you against reducing your lens list - you will only buy them back again and lose money in the process! I learnt that lesson the hard way.
    As for three keepers - the three I nominate as being outstanding are the Elmarit 24, the Lux 50 ASPH and the Lux 75.

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    Re: Your 3 favorite M-lenses...

    Hi Tom
    I quite agree with Chris - sell at your peril. I've been there, and I still regret selling the few lenses I have sold.

    3 favorites is difficult, but I guess

    1. 75 'cron
    2. WATE
    3. 50 lux,nocti,lux,nocti,lux (can't decide!).

    closely followed by the 28 'cron.
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    Re: Your 3 favorite M-lenses...

    I had and loved the 50-Lux, 28-Cron' and the 21-Elmerit with the Lux being my favorite and the Elmerit being in third place - too contrasty’ for my taste. I also had the 35 for a few days but I didn't much care for it.

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    Re: Your 3 favorite M-lenses...

    For some perverted reasons, I am looking for a bargain priced Macro Elmar 90/4 (only the lens and not the add ons) and the Apo Telyt 135. Let me know if you are selling.

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    Re: Your 3 favorite M-lenses...

    Jono, 28Cron would also be my number 4, specially it is the widest without ext, viewfinder.

    I am even so crazy to own the Nocti (favorite 50), the 50/1.4asph (for travel as a nice speed/weight compromise) and the 50/2.5 (compact walkaround).

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    Re: Your 3 favorite M-lenses...

    Quote Originally Posted by Vivek View Post
    For some perverted reasons, I am looking for a bargain priced Macro Elmar 90/4 (only the lens and not the add ons) and the Apo Telyt 135. Let me know if you are selling.
    Nothing perverted about that Vivek - we're all looking for them, as they'll have a nice new lease of life on the M.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Vivek View Post
    For some perverted reasons, I am looking for a bargain priced Macro Elmar 90/4 (only the lens and not the add ons) and the Apo Telyt 135. Let me know if you are selling.
    Own both but not (yet?) ready to sell those.
    I admit I dont use the 90 Makro much, but the 135 sometimes helps.

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    Re: Your 3 favorite M-lenses...

    At the moment my theory is that my money is better invested in Leica glass than at the bank. Frankly, with the new M and loads of used M9 coming on the market, the price for glass can only go into one direction: north. So why sell unless you need the cash. And I know, I would regret any sell.

    As regards favorite lens, impossible to say, as this changes all the time. Love my 50s (Nocti, lux, cron) all for different things and reasons; could never part from my 35 cron (sharp and compact); love the 75 lux and cron; the compact 2.8 90; and the of course the 28 cron and the 24 2.8. Only lens I hardly ever use is the 135. And then there is the MATE, which I love on hikes as a 1 lens kit.

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    Re: Your 3 favorite M-lenses...

    I have settled on:
    21 Super Elmar ASPH
    35 Summilux ASPH FLE
    50 Summilux ASPH

    I might consider a macro or super-tele (my standard tele requirements fulfilled by non-leica lenses at the moment) now that the M can support them.

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    Re: Your 3 favorite M-lenses...

    My "three lens" kit is:

    Summicron-M 28mm f/2 ASPH
    Summilux-M 50mm f/1.4 ASPH
    Elmar-M 90mm f/2.8

    I have a Tele-Elmar-M 135mm f/4 for the top end and will probably pick up a Super-Elmar-M 21mm f/3.4 ASPH for the wide end and call it a day. Extra points for all lenses having a 46mm filter thread.

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    Re: Your 3 favorite M-lenses...

    Looks like 50 is on everybodies list.

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    Re: Your 3 favorite M-lenses...

    I am surprised that the 35/2 Asph does not find and love.
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    Re: Your 3 favorite M-lenses...

    Quote Originally Posted by Vivek View Post
    I am surprised that the 35/2 Asph does not find and love.
    It's a great lens! Super sharp, lovely output, finger tab, small.

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    Re: Your 3 favorite M-lenses...

    2.0/28 ASPH
    1.4/50 ASPH
    2.0/75 APO ASPH

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    Re: Your 3 favorite M-lenses...

    1. 50 Summilux ASPH -- excellent, flexible all-arounder; very nice color.

    3. 50 Summicron current (pre-APO) -- worth keeping for the really nice rendering at wide apertures for people photos and nighttime shots.

    3. 35 Summarit -- flexible, small, great color, nice out of focus rendering, great overall look in good daytime light and at night.

    If I were to add a 4th -- 35 2.8 ZM -- perfect hiking lens -- great sharpness and contrast in a very small lens.

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    Re: Your 3 favorite M-lenses...

    1: rigid cron 50
    2: ELmarit 135 /2.8
    3: Serenar 85/2

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    Re: Your 3 favorite M-lenses...

    1) 28 Cron
    2) 50 Cron (I have a v2 lux and a pre-ASPH lux, and I like the cron better than either. What's wrong with me?)
    3) 21 Zeiss

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    Re: Your 3 favorite M-lenses...

    1. 50 lux pre-ash
    2. 25 Zeiss

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    Summilux 50 ASPH
    Summicron 28 ASPH
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    Zeiss ZM 85 f2
    Zeiss ZM 50 f2
    CV 35 f1.2 II

    I prefer the way the Zeiss lenses draw over the Leica ones.
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    Re: Your 3 favorite M-lenses...

    Quote Originally Posted by Vivek View Post
    For some perverted reasons, I am looking for a bargain priced Macro Elmar 90/4 (only the lens and not the add ons) and the Apo Telyt 135. Let me know if you are selling.
    I've had those lenses for a few years now and have no trouble with focus. Also have the 75 summilux. I guess that those might be my 3 M lenses. But, I agree that the new M might make them more desirable as focus becomes more of a non issue. Perhaps Leica will come out with a 180mm f2 or f2.8 lens in the near future.

    I don't have the close-up gizmos for the 90/4, but wouldn't mind picking them up on the cheap some day. Doubt that will ever happen.

    Cheers,

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    Re: Your 3 favorite M-lenses...

    I have way more M-mount lenses than I really need, yet I'm loathe to part with any of them. And they're mostly not Leica lenses ...

    Color-Skopar 21/4
    Color-Skoper 28/3.5
    Ultron 28/2
    Color-Skopar 35/2.5
    M-Rokkor 40/2 II
    Nokton 40/1.4
    Nokton 50/1.5
    Color-Skopar 50/2.5
    M-Rokkor 90/4
    Hektor 135/4.5

    Sheesh, ten lenses. But I like all of them, even though they're relatively inexpensive compared to the Leica lenses.

    What are my favorites? It depends somewhat on the camera, but I have to say I've used the M-Rokkors (both 40 and 90), the Nokton 40, the Color-Skopar 28, and the Nokton 50 the most. I have four M-mount bodies now:

    - The set I use with the GXR most is 21-40/1.4-90
    - The set I use with the CL most is 40/2-90
    - The set I use with M9 most is 35-50/1.5-135
    - The set I use with M4-2 most is 21-50/2.5

    (I'd like to add the Summarit or Summicron 75 and Biogon 25/2.8 ZM to the kit eventually too, mostly for use with M9. That damn Magpie Syndrome is a murderous thing on the bank account... )

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    Re: Your 3 favorite M-lenses...

    In no particular order..

    cron 28 asph
    lux 50 asph
    cron 75 apo

    Does Leica make any other super lenses?
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    Re: Your 3 favorite M-lenses...

    Quote Originally Posted by MGrayson View Post
    1) 28 Cron
    2) 50 Cron (I have a v2 lux and a pre-ASPH lux, and I like the cron better than either. What's wrong with me?)
    3) 21 Zeiss

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    Summilux 50 Asph
    Summicron 28
    Summicron 75

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    Re: Your 3 favorite M-lenses...

    In no order:

    28 Elmarit asph
    ZM18
    90 Cron

    I have many others I love as well...

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    Re: Your 3 favorite M-lenses...

    1. 50'Lux ASPH, best lens for my favorite focal length
    2. 35'Cron V4, best ergonomics ever
    3. ???

    I only have a 28mm Elmarit ASPH and 90mm Elmarit-M left, but can't say that I'm committed to keep either. Will probably upgrade to 28'Cron when the opportunity arise, and just received the 90mm so no judgement yet.
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    Re: Your 3 favorite M-lenses...

    1) 35/2 Summicron ASPH
    2) 50/2 ZM Planar
    3) 35/1.2 Nokton II

    If I had another I'd say it was a toss up between the 90 Summicron Pre-ASPH I got for a steal or the 24 Elmar. It's very much like the 24 Elmarit in the way it draws, slightly slower, and crazy sharp. Probably will add a 50 Summilux or 75 Summicron next though. That new CV 21/1.8 is interesting too.
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    Re: Your 3 favorite M-lenses...

    50 lux asph
    28 cron asph
    90 cron pre asph

    A very close 4th is the 75 cron asph. I want that lens back. The 28 just gives me pleasure every time I use it. I am not proficient with wider lenses because of the compositional elements required. The 50 is perfect. The 90 is great for portraits in my book. Would love to try the 135 apo and 75 lux. Frank

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    Re: Your 3 favorite M-lenses...

    Leica Summicron-M 35mm f/2 ver IV
    Leica Summarit-M 5cm f/1.5 & Leica Summilux-M 1.4/50mm pre-asph
    (you're allowed to have at least 2 favorite 50s!)
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    Re: Your 3 favorite M-lenses...

    Quote Originally Posted by Vivek View Post
    I am surprised that the 35/2 Asph does not find and love.
    Vivek, I once had a 35/2 pre-asph for many years which served me very well.
    However after getting a 35/1.4asph and not being able to code the Version of the 35/2 I had I sold the Summicron.

    Some years later I wanted to have a small 35mm lens again. After looking at images on the web from both the 35 Summicron and the 35 Summarit I decided to give the Summarit a try. My findings were a slightly smoother bokeh and a little less contrasty rendering combined with a lower price for the Summarit. Giving up 1/5 f-stop was not so much of a problem for me.
    The Summarit is also very flare resistent- I use it without hood all the time without any problems.

    So nothing against the Summciron 35 asph and I bet there are areas where it is better than the Summarit, but the 35 Summarit is such a good lens that I guess it is a strong competitor for the 35 Summicron.
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    Quote Originally Posted by GMB View Post
    At the moment my theory is that my money is better invested in Leica glass than at the bank. Frankly, with the new M and loads of used M9 coming on the market, the price for glass can only go into one direction: north. So why sell unless you need the cash. And I know, I would regret any sell.
    Actually, with the new Live View feature, I suspect prices of lenses may not rise as much, seeing that M Type 240 owners will be able to use OEM lenses like the M-Hexanon, LTM lenses, etc without worrying about calibration and collimation. It's kinda hard to say, but I was hoping prices of M lenses would go up.

    If anything, if the M-E is readily available at USD4k-ish, it would probably jack up demand for M lenses
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    Re: Your 3 favorite M-lenses...

    Lux 35 asph v1
    Cron 50 (last non-apo version)
    Elmarit-M 90

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    Re: Your 3 favorite M-lenses...

    Not to say this is my three lens set, because the 35 and 50 are too close but:

    35 cron asph
    50 lux asph
    90 macro elmar
    (my fourth would be the near perfect Telyt 135)

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    Re: Your 3 favorite M-lenses...

    . . . . . this could change on any given day of the week.

    1. 35/2 Cron ASPH
    2. 50/1.4 Lux ASPH
    3. 75/2 APO Cron ASPH


    I do love using the 24/3.8 Elmar and 28/1.9 Ultron ASPH when going wider. Then there is 90 Elmarit. Another fast 50 with the Zeiss C Sonnar T* . . . . . then the screw mounts with adaptors.

    As others have mentioned, don't sell unless you need to, there will be a regret or two.

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    Re: Your 3 favorite M-lenses...

    I've tried quite a few but I keep coming back to these:

    Noct F1 (E58)
    90 AA
    35 FLE
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    Re: Your 3 favorite M-lenses...

    Three most important as in Location, Location, Location for real estate:

    35 Lux ASPH, 35mm Lux ASPH, 35mm Lux ASPH.

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    Re: Your 3 favorite M-lenses...

    Ha. Well said, Marc (and I concur).

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    Re: Your 3 favorite M-lenses...

    I'd have to say, size non-withstanding

    #1: 35 lux FLE
    # 2: Tie: Noctilux f/0.95 or SUmmilux 50 asph (though if forced, summilux wins on size and close focus)
    #3: 24 Lux asph

    Judging M glass is hard, as there is so much fantastic glass and unique looks....I typically try to find a size/useability balance, so if you had to ask what I thought was a practical kit...

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    Re: Your 3 favorite M-lenses...

    I haven't used all the M lenses but these would be my keepers (and favored travel companions):

    Elmarit 24 mm Asph
    Summilux 50 mm Asph
    Summicron 90 mm Apo Asph

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    Re: Your 3 favorite M-lenses...

    #1 35/1.4 FLE
    #2 90/2.0 APO
    #3 this month 28/2.0 no external VF-yeh.
    #4 this month 50/1.4

    Other months for #3 50-Noctilux or 21/1.4 or 18.3.4 or 75/1.4.

    Yes, I should sell some lenses, but many on forums keep saying that they regret having sold this or that lens, so I keep them all, except duplicates.

    Having recently acquired an MM, I find I like using different lenses very often when compared to what I mention above as #1-4 for my M9P. I can use slower lenses with great fun now!

    I suspect that once more Monochromes hit the streets there will be more appreciation for f2.0, 2.8 and 3.4 to 4.0 glass since increasing the ISO a bit makes those all time favorites VERY useable and reduces the need for 1.4 and 0.95 glass except for their bokeh desirability. The same might go for the new M, but too early to know for sure on that model.
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    Re: Your 3 favorite M-lenses...

    Quote Originally Posted by ghoonk View Post
    Actually, with the new Live View feature, I suspect prices of lenses may not rise as much, seeing that M Type 240 owners will be able to use OEM lenses like the M-Hexanon, LTM lenses, etc without worrying about calibration and collimation. It's kinda hard to say, but I was hoping prices of M lenses would go up.

    If anything, if the M-E is readily available at USD4k-ish, it would probably jack up demand for M lenses
    I understand your reasoning, but I do not concur since I believe the R lenses will have an upside to their prices once the M is out there.

    The US M lens prices tend to go up January 1 so in 2013 we will see the 35FLE go up since it came out just before new pricing went into effect last year and as such has not had a price increase for well over a year. As for other M lenses, we will see, but if the past US lens pricing is any indicator, Leica glass WILL go up in price come January 2013..

    As for other manufacturers, if they see a spike in demand-they will increase prices too.

    Good point about the ME, but the price is Euros4400 not USD4k-ish.

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    Re: Your 3 favorite M-lenses...

    Quote Originally Posted by JoelM View Post
    I've had those lenses for a few years now and have no trouble with focus. Also have the 75 summilux. I guess that those might be my 3 M lenses. But, I agree that the new M might make them more desirable as focus becomes more of a non issue. Perhaps Leica will come out with a 180mm f2 or f2.8 lens in the near future.

    I don't have the close-up gizmos for the 90/4, but wouldn't mind picking them up on the cheap some day. Doubt that will ever happen.

    Cheers,

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    Joel-I tried the 135 APO on the M at Photokina to see if it was capable of easier focusing for me (although I must say I have had no problem with focusing that lens on my M9 once I got my Walter eye piece). The M was lovely with red outlining what was in focus. I certainly hope they come out with an M 180/2.0 lens or even longer. Then I can abandon my long Nikon glass I have been accumulating in anticipation of getting an 800 for wildlife shooting.

    Maybe even my long (250,350,500) Hassleblad V glass might work on that M with the right adapter. It would use the center sweet spot and that would be even better.
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    Re: Your 3 favorite M-lenses...

    That I have owned and used . . . 28/50/75 Summicrons.

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    Re: Your 3 favorite M-lenses...

    I have 21, 28, 35, 50, 75 and 135 lenses and use them all. However, based on frequency of use (using LR to count) the 35 ASPH Lux is most used, followed by a tie between the 50 ASPH Lux and the 75 ASPH Cron.

    So if I were forced, those three would be the keepers. Truthfully though, M lenses are so compact and portable that I carry them all most of the time.

    I'm really looking forward to the M when it comes to the Apo Telyt. It's a phenomenal lens but hard to focus with the rangefinder.

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    Re: Your 3 favorite M-lenses...

    Quote Originally Posted by LB Jefferies View Post
    That I have owned and used . . . 28/50/75 Summicrons.
    Not the 35?! (Just joking ... All fine lenses.)

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    For me it's the 50 lux asph, 35 cron asph and 90 cron pre-asph. I'd put the VC 35 1/2 II up in 4th, but sold it once I got the lux and went with the much smaller 35cron. The IQ out of the VC is fantastic though.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ramosa View Post
    Not the 35?! (Just joking ... All fine lenses.)
    Never owned a 35 'cron. I'm contemplating it because they can be had for quite a bit less than the 28.

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    Re: Your 3 favorite M-lenses...

    What no 21 Lux? I was looking at one...I have a 18 3.8...and a 24 3.8 I was going to trade for a 21 L.
    Should I consider a 21 2.8 instead?

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