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    Fun with R Lenses on M

    OK, here goes:

    R 105-280 f4.2 OOC JPEG no optimizing on camera or otherwise. AutoWB, spot meter, Novoflex R to M adapter at 105mm. Double click image to enlarge. Nothing special-just an example.

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    Another R lens APO 180/2.8 , Auto WB, spot metering, manual focus without FA, tripod, Novoflex R to M adapter which camera says "Lens Uncoded". Can't remember ISO. Took this image +25 Contrast and -15 Brightness in PS. Nothing special-just an example. Double click to enlarge image.

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    Re: Fun with R Lenses on M

    Hi Lou
    Well started - it should grow and grow!
    here are a couple from me from the cold snap in January - with the 28-90 Zoom






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    3200 ISO 50 'cron AA - early prototype


    Caspar snoozin'

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    Is that a mop or a doggie?

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    Re: Fun with R Lenses on M

    Quote Originally Posted by algrove View Post
    Nothing special...
    No doubt.

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    Re: Fun with R Lenses on M

    Quote Originally Posted by jonoslack View Post
    3200 ISO 50 'cron AA - early prototype


    Caspar snoozin'
    It is the Cookie Monster! Or perhaps you are the retirement home for Dougal? You know, if you ever go bald...
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    Re: Fun with R Lenses on M

    Quote Originally Posted by snowboarder View Post
    No doubt.
    Thanks. Hey, knock yourself out, break a leg.
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    Re: Fun with R Lenses on M

    What happens if you mount an R lens that is not officially supported? Thanks!

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    Re: Fun with R Lenses on M

    I do not have a Leica R to M adapter yet (I hear none are out yet) so nothing that I can find on my camera detects any R lens even if on Auto Detect Lens (since no R lens is 6 bit coded) or even when I go to the Manual Lens List since that list only lists M lenses, so far.

    All my images say "uncoded" because if this. Jono was lucky enough to have the Leica R to M adapter while testing his R lenses.

    The M recognizes the Leica adapter via its 6 bit code and that is what then allows you to go into that List of about 20 R lenses. It seems all R lenses work from what I can tell so far, but then again the ones I have tried are in the list I believe. However, my M did not know these lenses were R lenses since I use a Novoflex uncoded R to M Adapter. I have taken images successfully with the R 105-280 which is not on the list in the M brochure p. 20. So we now know one not on the list works with the Novoflex. Reminds me again after you hear the Leica adapter is out and we shall see what happens then.

    Somewhere I read that the M supports all R lenses whether on the list of 20 lenses or not. It could have been a statement by Jono or Chris, not sure.
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    Re: Fun with R Lenses on M

    For cryin' out loud! Someone find out the 6-bit code for the Leica R to M adapter, and sharpie-code it onto a Novoflex adapter. Unless the Novoflex has a very narrow base that lets light in, it should get you to the list of supported R lenses. Then the more exotic R lenses can be described as something on the list and something will come out of it.

    Guys, we have all gone soft since the days of the M8, when experimentation was second nature.

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    Re: Fun with R Lenses on M

    Quote Originally Posted by scott kirkpatrick View Post
    For cryin' out loud! Someone find out the 6-bit code for the Leica R to M adapter, and sharpie-code it onto a Novoflex adapter. Unless the Novoflex has a very narrow base that lets light in, it should get you to the list of supported R lenses. Then the more exotic R lenses can be described as something on the list and something will come out of it.

    Guys, we have all gone soft since the days of the M8, when experimentation was second nature.

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    Hi Scott - the code is easy - but the Novoflex adapter brings up 50/75, and you need the 28/90 for the coding.

    If you have an adapter which brings up 28/90, then you can code it with a sharpie (or whatever). I know, I did it!

    Having said that it really isn't a problem - I've been trying out a Contax/Zeiss 28-85 today - uncoded does fine!

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    R-15mm Fun Double click to enlarge
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    R 80-200/4 @200. Difficult exposure-used Multi-field. About a 50% crop. Needed my 400/6.8.

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    Re: Fun with R Lenses on M

    Algrove - This is a great thread you started. I wish I could play. I have the R 280/2.8 and can't wait to try it on my M. But, I don't have an adaptor yet - come on Leica! I also have the 105-280 that you used on your first shot. Do you have any shots from that incredible 280/4.0 APO? I wonder what it is going to look like on the M? Should be a fantastic lens on the M. can't wait to try it out. I think that these great R lenses are going to be harder and harder to acquire as more M's hit the market.

    Jono - As always nice shots! And, your dog doesn't look purple. Is that due the newer LR profile from the nonspecific one we saw earlier in your beta-shots or just better PP on your part?

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    Re: Fun with R Lenses on M

    Auni-First welcome to the forum. Wait I see 2008. Oh well, welcome back.

    Thanks for reminding me to get out and shoot with that 280/4.0 on my M. I just might try it on that mermaid who adores the pirate on the flag. I can get there in 5 minutes, but today the weather is tornado prone.

    Forgot to mention the black flag shot was handheld before I stopped by all the water side establishments to "test" their latest.

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    Re: Fun with R Lenses on M

    Quote Originally Posted by Auni View Post
    Jono - As always nice shots! And, your dog doesn't look purple. Is that due the newer LR profile from the nonspecific one we saw earlier in your beta-shots or just better PP on your part?

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    HI There (and welcome)
    my dog certainly isn't purple! (was it before )
    As far as adapters are concerned, I shot a lot of pictures using a $16 converter I bought on ebay (no problem). If you want the coding to work, then you need it to bring up the 28/90 framelines.

    the Leica adapter is a whole different thing, but it doesn't make the pictures better!

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    Hi Jono -

    Yes, I understand that other adaptors work that bring up the 28/90 frame lines and if the adapter is coded correctly it will even bring up the R lens list. I suppose I should look on eBay and get one. None knows Leica's delivery date on accessories.

    Yes, your dog had a warm tone to it in some of the photos posted earlier on. The dog looks fine now on these postings. I just wondered what the difference was... LR update in ACR? Maybe, he just wasn't feeling well then...

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    R 80-200mm/4.0 on a cloudy day. Hand held at maybe 160mm 1/2000 ISO 1250. I must say I do not like the noise I am seeing at ISO3200 while working in LR.

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    First go with the R APO Macro 100/2.8 on my M. I have just gained MORE respect for macro shooters as I found this first attempt anything, but easy. I was focusing on the dip on the first leaf. At 5.6 the depth of focus was nearly non-existent.

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    R APO 180/2.8 Elmarit II 15 feet from painting f5.6.

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    R 180/2.0 10 meters to threes. Focused on center tree with EVF and 10x FP. Classic meter, ISO 1250. M photos taken with RX-1 on Macro

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    Re: Fun with R Lenses on M

    Nice algrove!

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    Thanks, Gary. If you get the 28/2 Cron you will be hard pressed to put it down and/or take it off. Perfect for the up close shots at the Calgary Stampede.

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    The 28cron is indeed a great lens but my Credit Card needs a break for a while.... BTW - have you been to the Stampede before? Great fun.

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    No, but it is on my list which never seems to get shorter.

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    First go at using LR 4.4 on M images shot with R lenses.

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    M + 15/2.8 R using LV+EVF-click to view image larger.
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    Both M + R15/2.8
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    Re: Fun with R Lenses on M

    Louis, The 2nd one in post #28 is decent. The one in #27 has a horrible case of CA, may be impossible to correct.

    (Not sure about your liberal use of the new emoticon)

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    How does the novoflex adapter effect the image? Looking to get the adapter to use on our red epic so we don't have to have two different camera mounts for our R and M lenses.
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    Re: Fun with R Lenses on M

    Quote Originally Posted by chadlanc View Post
    How does the novoflex adapter effect the image? Looking to get the adapter to use on our red epic so we don't have to have two different camera mounts for our R and M lenses.
    See my PM sent a few days ago.

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    Re: Fun with R Lenses on M

    Wow, fantastic images.

    The gearhead in me says:

    - R lenses have a long backfocus length, so the CA dispersion issues should be much less when using an M8 and M9. So maybe dialing up the equivalent focal length on an M9 should be fine, or going "uncoded" on the M8 is fine too.

    - it brings back the days of guess focusing, or post-exposure chimping. But I think chimping would be a pain, to get the image magnification up. Certainly not great for any spontaneous shooting that needs focusing.

    - I want to try using the 28mm shift lens on the M9. Should be a blast to do real perspectives correction

    - and full frame on the M9 with R9 lenses - oh so exciting

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    Re: Fun with R Lenses on M

    The 28mm PC actually turns out to be a good lens. Mechanically excellent. Images have some r-g ca which can be corrected. Good flare resistance. Plenty sharp stopped down a couple of stops. Wants to be shot at f11 or so when shifted. Corners still excellent at 6mm shift which is what it typically takes to tighten up the foreground. At a full 11mm it gets a little sketchy. Highly recommended if you don't need tilts (which I very rarely feel the need for). Brick wall test with 9mm or so of downward shift.

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    Re: Fun with R Lenses on M

    Quote Originally Posted by algrove View Post


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    Both M + R15/2.8
    Interesting. I've owned this lens which was actually made by Zeiss ( in this case with a Leica badge), in a Canon mount. I found sharpness issues in the outer zones and some CA so I ended up selling it. It's a monster from a size and weight standpoint. It's lovely from a fit an finish standpoint. Still expensive in the used market.

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    Re: Fun with R Lenses on M

    Woody Do you think the R 28PC is better than the M 28/2. I picked up the 28 PC, but have never taken one shot with it so far.

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