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    Leica have increased the Upgrade prices

    Those of you who've had your camera upgraded already can experience that warm glow of a little schadenfreude.

    Turns out Leica have just increased the cost of the M8 upgrades so that the full set now costs €2000, up from €1400 and all the other prices increase similarly.

    That €2000 is more than the part exchange value of the unmodified M8...

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    Re: Leica have increased the Upgrade prices

    Hi Mark,

    Thank you for the information. Wow, I was recently thinking of going for the upgrade after initially being not too bothered by the feature set but when most people were very happy post upgrade I was considering. That is one less to think about for me now anyway.

    That is quite a hefty increase!

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    I'd laugh if it wasn't so sad....Ouch

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    The upgrade costs more than a D700...that is pretty crazy.
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    i got a message today from Leica NJ:

    "We thank you for contacting us regarding the upgrade(s) for your M8. Due to unforeseen circumstances, we have fallen behind on our original schedule. We regret this predicament but we believe you would appreciate one of the reasons for the delay is that our technicians, apart from doing the upgrades are also cleaning and checking the cameras to ensure that your M8 continues to perform outstandingly.
    Leica Camera Inc. has now taken additional steps to remedy the situation. We will begin
    contacting customers again after the holidays to inform you when you should send your M8 to our facility in Allendale, NJ."

    they have my patience since they already completed my upgrade a month ago.

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    Glad I did my upgrade when I did!
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    Re: Leica have increased the Upgrade prices

    I guess it's one way of suppressing M8 upgrades and resistance to an M8.2 upgrade purchase.

    I think that the lunatics are running that assylum ....

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    Re: Leica have increased the Upgrade prices

    Mark:

    When I looked into the upgrade prices a few months back, it was cheaper to have it done by Solms than in the USA because of the weak Euro and the fact the price in Euros included VAT. They just may have been trying to equalize the prices, though the Euro just jumped today.

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    Re: Leica have increased the Upgrade prices

    I don't think so, Robert, as they upped the prices in Euros.
    I seems they are trying to get rid of the last hare-brained Lee scheme by pricing it prohibitively. It does not do them any good on the I-love-Leica scale though, dropped about45 points on a scale of 100 I would guess.
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    Just wondering if they realize there is a world wide economic downturn.
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    Re: Leica have increased the Upgrade prices

    FWIW, the upgrade prices haven't been increased in the US.

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    Re: Leica have increased the Upgrade prices

    Quote Originally Posted by jaapv View Post
    I don't think so, Robert, as they upped the prices in Euros.
    I seems they are trying to get rid of the last hare-brained Lee scheme by pricing it prohibitively. It does not do them any good on the I-love-Leica scale though, dropped about45 points on a scale of 100 I would guess.
    I guess what I was saying is they are getting the Europe prices in line with the other products. More expensive in Europe than the USA

    BTW, I am in Canada, so it crosses an international border either way. When I priced the upgrades a few months back, it was significantly cheaper in Solms.

    What is the difference now? What is VAT in Germany? The Euro is currently 1.37 USD.

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    Rob

    When they first discussed the upgrades, they indicated that the prices in euros would not be adjusted for VAT differences. Just guessing but they probably concluded that its just too much work on repairs.

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    I contacted Leica about an upgrade back in early Sept and was told to plan on sending my camera around mid-Nov. That date has come and passed, so I started exchanging email with Leica about when I should be ready to box things up and I now have a target date in mid-Mar. I took the opportunity to ask if the price for my upgrade– shutter and rangefinder mask – had risen and was told it continues to be $1,275.00, not including shipping and/or taxes..

    I did not enquire if this was across all upgrades, or just the upgrades that were previously scheduled.
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    Update on Solms Upgrade prices

    Several who post on the LUF board have now confirmed that the increase in upgrade prices at Solms only goes into effect January 1. Solms asks you to call or email (phone is simpler) and make a booking to have the upgrade done in a particular week. They are booking upgrades 12 or more weeks into 2009, but the current price applies if the booking is made before January 1.

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    I confirm that, I've booked my two in, Week 12. It's clear that if you are at all minded to get your M8 updated, do it now. I think we can then be reasonably certain that, the odd firmware fix aside, this is it for the M8 until at least Photokina 2010 when there might be something new.

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    Why is that Mark?
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    Just a personal opinion of course but I think Leica have got their hands full with bringing the S2 to market - August 2009 apparently - and doing something about the R10. I'd be really surprised if they announced an M9 before Photokina 2010 - just 21 months away.

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    Re: Leica have increased the Upgrade prices

    Thanks for the information on this.
    I've just booked my second one in for some of the upgrade . . . I'm keeping the fast, noisy shutter on this one and just getting the framelines/lcd/vulcanite.

    Old prices - due week 12 (which suits me fine, it's just about when the warranty runs out).

    I agree with Mark about an M9 as well - Leica must have their hands very full with the S2 and the R10, and I doubt whether they will be able to do a full frame sensor for some time yet. I reckon it's more likely to be 2011 than 2010.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jonoslack View Post
    I reckon it's more likely to be 2011 than 2010.
    I seriously wonder if Leica will still be around by then. I hope so but if they don't get their act together. I have head quite a bit of talk around of people selling off their stuff because they think Leica will go under and their M's, lenses etc will drop in value.

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    Re: Leica have increased the Upgrade prices

    People have been talking about Leica going under since the 70s. If it happens, it happens. Personally, I think the M9 will be out before the R10, just because so few people buy R cameras. The M8 has been out awhile and people are screaming for an update to give it full frame, no IR filters and better ISO performance. If they can do these things, they will sell a lot of cameras. Even if the R10 is fantastic, they will not sell very many, which is what makes me think that they will see how the S2 does, and if it is successful, they will just scale it down as an R10. If it flops, I don't think we will see an R10.
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    Stuart - agree.

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    Well I hope so my dealer just called and my M8 is back from NJ with framelines and shutter upgrades. I have been thinking of an S2 next year but will see if they get their sh_t together.

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    Quote Originally Posted by TimWright View Post
    I seriously wonder if Leica will still be around.... I hope so but if they don't get their act together......
    Leica haven't got past acts together, this act together, and give this customer no confidence for their handling of forthcoming acts.

    The industrial strength oaths I feel appropriate for Leica's attitude to it's customers as demonstrated by it's pricing and marketing balls-ups would be deemed too ungentlemanly for this forum. Maybe Solms is a magic land where everybody drives around in gold cars and it's citizens are sheltered from the economics that effect other less fortunate folk; maybe they think we all have gold cars and big yachts and buy Leicas from pocket change to wear as jewellery. Even by Leica's standards, the new upgrade prices are obscene; at this moment I have run out of politeness for this perpetually bungling company. It's little wonder that I don't know one professional photographer who would touch Leica with a proverbial barge pole.

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