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    M9 SD Card discussion about SD card restrictions

    I just picked up a used 64 gb card a Lexar SDXC. I know the card works, as I can see it in my laptop drive. Not recognized by M9 though. Is this just this particular card? I did the firmware update for it noted as a possible issue on Steve Huff's site, and he points you to the latest firmware update. Update successful, using SD card not.

    ideas anyone? Just card compatibility?

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    See valuable information below: 32gb is likely max storage usable, and can only be SDHC format cards only, No SDXC allowed. At least not before a firmware update to possibly allow it. Or it may never be allowed.

    Only SD and SDHC cards are currently allowed for M9
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    Re: My M9 is finicky about SD cards it seems

    I'm not sure it works with SDXC?
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    Re: My M9 is finicky about SD cards it seems

    Don't think it works with 64GB cards either, that would take four batteries to fill the card....

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    Re: My M9 is finicky about SD cards it seems

    Well, I honestly didn't even think about it being anything special when I picked it up second hand. I probably should have thought about it. lol.

    I am considering getting a Nikon D800E, if I do, I can use it for that, if nothing else I guess. Hopefully it will work in that, since that is what the guy had I got it from. Turns out he had a card go bad, and sent it in for replacement. He got a Sandisk in the meantime and then decided to sell this one, his confidence shaken. Now mine is shaken too, lol.

    I would like to know what this XC designation is, and if that is a fact it won't work with Leica. The only other thing I considered was just card inconsistency, or to large a card?

    Honestly, after I bought it I thought I could probably shoot all year and not fill this card up, if it worked. I was thinking it was a lot of card for sure, probably to much. But for 40 bucks, it seemed like a deal at the time. Now, not looking so good though...

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    Re: My M9 is finicky about SD cards it seems

    I use SanDisk 32GB SDHC cards with 100% success. Never tried an SDXC in the M9.
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    Re: My M9 is finicky about SD cards it seems

    how large a card is everyone using anyway?

    Thanks Brad.

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    Re: My M9 is finicky about SD cards it seems

    Were I to shoot this much in one day, a 16GB (~432 shots) roughly matches a battery change

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    Re: My M9 is finicky about SD cards it seems

    hey, I didn't say I thought it through very well, lol.

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    Re: My M9 is finicky about SD cards it seems

    Create a new folder in your PC and name it whatever you want (I usually name it Sony to tease the M9) then insert the card in the camera. If it doesn't recognize it then this type is not supported. If it is recognized, just format in camera and you're ready to go.
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    Re: My M9 is finicky about SD cards it seems

    I use a bunch of Sandisk 8gb 30mb/s. Cheap as hell, and very compatible with the M9s allergies. I bought a couple of transcend cards, at 16gb, no go.
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    Re: My M9 is finicky about SD cards it seems

    Thanks for the idea Edward. There was a D800 folder on the sdxc card, I Saw that on my computer. The M9 never recognized it had a card in it, therefore, I can't format it. I guess it's just a case of incompatibility, pure and simple. I'll keep using my Kingston 16gb cards for now, they work fine.

    Maybe pick up a Sandisk too later arild.

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    Re: My M9 is finicky about SD cards it seems

    Quote Originally Posted by arild View Post
    I use a bunch of Sandisk 8gb 30mb/s. Cheap as hell, and very compatible with the M9s allergies. I bought a couple of transcend cards, at 16gb, no go.
    Arild, were the 16GB Transcend cards you tried and wouldn't work in your M9, class 6 or class 10? Just curious since I've used the blue label class 6 16GB Transcend cards in an M9 with no issues.

    What problems did you encounter? Would they not work at all, partially fill or wouldn't format? Just curious what their issue was? Thanks.

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    Re: My M9 is finicky about SD cards it seems

    The M9 does not take SDXC cards- period...
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    Re: My M9 is finicky about SD cards it seems

    Quote Originally Posted by Photojazz View Post
    Thanks for the idea Edward. There was a D800 folder on the sdxc card, I Saw that on my computer. The M9 never recognized it had a card in it, therefore, I can't format it. I guess it's just a case of incompatibility, pure and simple. I'll keep using my Kingston 16gb cards for now, they work fine.

    Maybe pick up a Sandisk too later arild.

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    I recall a time on some very old digital cameras when only regular SD cards would work in them, not SDHC...as the architecture of the card apparently changed to a degree. This I believe is even more so the case when going from SDHC to SDXC and many cameras do need a specific firmware update that indicates the camera will now be able to use SDXC cards. Whether the last M9 firmware released for the M9 incorporates the update for these types of cards, I don't honestly know.

    One thing you can try is on your computer, drag off all folders seen on the card and then format your card on your computer. After doing this put card into your M9 and try formatting. If it doesn't, then is safe to presume the camera doesn't recognize these types of cards.

    Dave (D&A)

    *** Edit...I posted this at the same time Jaap posted his information regarding SDXC cards in the M9 "above"...so apparently that's the answer!
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    Re: My M9 is finicky about SD cards it seems

    As I say, it won't work... SD or SDHC for the M9. no SDXC.


    Very old digital cameras a long time ago?
    That was 2007! ..... Good Lord, has the world speeded up....
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    Re: My M9 is finicky about SD cards it seems

    Quote Originally Posted by jaapv View Post

    Very old digital cameras a long time ago?
    That was 2007! ..... Good Lord, has the world speeded up....
    Yes, Jaap.

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    Re: My M9 is finicky about SD cards it seems

    Dave, I seem to remember that as well.

    Jaap, I believe you are right, it just won't work, so guys, please do not buy a SDXC card for your M9 series cameras!

    Lesson learned a little bit the hard way.


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    Re: My M9 is finicky about SD cards it seems

    Quote Originally Posted by Photojazz View Post
    Lesson learned a little bit the hard way.


    NO SDXC for Leica M9!

    1. Read the manual.

    2. Never ever buy used SD cards, especially while using it on expensive cameras.

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    Re: My M9 is finicky about SD cards it seems

    Quote Originally Posted by Photojazz View Post
    how large a card is everyone using anyway?
    My standard card for the M9 is an HP class 10 32G SDHC. Set to JPEG+raw capture, with the JPEGs set to a medium size at the fine quality setting, that's good for over 1200 exposures, which seems enough for me.

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    SD is the spec for storage cards capable of up to 2 Gbyte storage capacity.

    SDHC is the spec for storage cards capable of 4 to 32 Gbyte storage capacities.

    SDXC is the next level of SD card storage classes, including 64 to 132 Gbyte card capacities.

    See this knowledgebase entry on the Sandisk site for more details:
    SD/SDHC/SDXC Specifications and Compatibility

    The Leica M9 manual states SD/SDHC, no mention is made of SDXC cards. That leads me to conclude that SDXC are not officially compatible. Both SDHC and SDXC require certain minimum hardware capabilities beyond SD cards, and certain facilities to be available for firmware upgradeability. I don't believe the M9 card cage has those capabilities for SDXC protocol. The 1.196 firmware notes say nothing about SDXC compatibility.

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    Re: My M9 is finicky about SD cards it seems

    Ahhh, so that's what the designations are all about. So, in short, we need to stick to cards from 2-32 GB. Which of course, is fine, if you know that. Thanks Godfrey!

    FYI, I didn't check my manual. I believe we can at least say some SDXC cards are not compatible, if not all, at least not without future firmware updates to allow them to work.

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    Re: My M9 is finicky about SD cards it seems

    Quote Originally Posted by D&A View Post
    Arild, were the 16GB Transcend cards you tried and wouldn't work in your M9, class 6 or class 10? Just curious since I've used the blue label class 6 16GB Transcend cards in an M9 with no issues.

    What problems did you encounter? Would they not work at all, partially fill or wouldn't format? Just curious what their issue was? Thanks.

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    It's funny because we seem to have contradictory experiences with cards. My camera completely fried my Sandisk 8gb card, but is working flawlessly with 4 Transcend 16gb class 10 cards.
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    Re: My M9 is finicky about SD cards it seems

    I have two Kingston 16gb cards that work well. But if I buy another, it will probably be a Sandisk 32. SDHC

    Vivek, actually, this card was replacement from factory, so it was pretty much a new card, but your point is well made and valid.

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    Re: My M9 is finicky about SD cards it seems

    Doug, I am using 32GB Samsung SDHC plus (rated class 10 but are very, very slow) cards. They are supposed to be more robust, physically. Very cheap and slow enough for the MM. That would mean that they
    would be compatible with the M9 as well.

    SanDisk Extreme Pro cards for the Sony NEX'. Very fast cards and fully compatible with those cams.

    The other day I was trying a shot with a NEX. I had no idea that I snapped 111 (just a few minutes). All junked. On the same day I captured 3 shots with the MM. All keepers. Despite being of a medusa technology, the Leica gets some important things right, if it is handled/treated within its limits.

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    Re: My M9 is finicky about SD cards it seems

    Quote Originally Posted by edwardkaraa View Post
    It's funny because we seem to have contradictory experiences with cards. My camera completely fried my Sandisk 8gb card, but is working flawlessly with 4 Transcend 16gb class 10 cards.
    All the problems I've heard about with Leica M9 and Sandisk cards have been specifically with the Sandisk Extreme 8G cards. My Sandisk Extreme 16G cards seem to work just fine so far, no problems at all.
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