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    Happy Birthday M8 1 year ago Today

    Well it is exactly for me one year ago today i got my first M8. So a Happy birthday image to celebrate it .

    I shot this in Germany with the WATE at ISO 640 for actually Al Tanabe's Birthday lunch
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    Who's Al you ask . LOL Well here he is shot for the first time with a Noctilux. I nailed it
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    Re: Happy Birthday M8 1 year ago Today

    Here is another victim of my first moments with a Noctilux . Mark Gowin another fine member here. Trying a 50 lux out , he bought one. I think we spent more money on buying glass on this tour than shooting it. LOL
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    Oh hell let's embarrass Christian Erhardt from Leica NJ too. i was having a little fun with this lens. I stopped this down to F4.

    Somehow someone got my camera and got me too.
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    Re: Happy Birthday M8 1 year ago Today

    It was a magenta shirt. ROTFLMAO
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    Re: Happy Birthday M8 1 year ago Today

    Guy,
    That was a great trip arranged by Leica and Porsche. It was my first birthday cake from a five star restaurant. I would recommend to all forum members to trek to Solms once in their life and experience the Leica Akademie as well as the birthplace of 35mm photography.

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    Totally agree Al it was a awesome trip and great friendships were made.
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    Re: Happy Birthday M8 1 year ago Today

    Quote Originally Posted by Guy Mancuso View Post
    It was a magenta shirt. ROTFLMAO
    I looked at the shirt and thought to myself....was that the right color? and then saw this post....so I am now the one ROTFLMAO....also while I was at it decided to add a picture (avatar) which is a bit on the wild side for me. I see it only took Jack a day to go back to his LUF picture which I always liked.

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    Terry i like that shot of you. keep it
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    Re: Happy Birthday M8 1 year ago Today

    By the way. I love the encouragement for posting pictures. That is the part about LUF I just don't understand. Going to Morocco in two weeks so when I come back I hope to have something worthwhile to post.

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    Re: Happy Birthday M8 1 year ago Today

    Quote Originally Posted by TEBnewyork View Post
    By the way. I love the encouragement for posting pictures. That is the part about LUF I just don't understand. Going to Morocco in two weeks so when I come back I hope to have something worthwhile to post.
    Can't wait to see those! Morocco is on my short list, never been there but definitely want to go. Any special itinerary?

    One of the main considerations for this site was posting images inside the discussions. Seemed like a pretty basic concept for a photography forum... We asked our workshop members if they wanted it and they said "yes." So after being turned down elsewhere, we agreed to build one and here we are... Hopefully it works out for us all!
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    Re: Happy Birthday M8 1 year ago Today

    Well Terry it is a PHOTOGRAPHY forum you would think images are what should be shown. I don't understand either and 1 more reason for this place among others. The workshops needed a web site and this is a bonus.

    Love to see the Morocco shots when you get back
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    Re: Happy Birthday M8 1 year ago Today

    Quote Originally Posted by Jack Flesher View Post
    Can't wait to see those! Morocco is on my short list, never been there but definitely want to go. Any special itinerary?

    One of the main considerations for this site was posting images inside the discussions. Seemed like a pretty basic concept for a photography forum...
    We are going for a quick trip (easy from NY). Staying up in the High Atlas mountains for one night and then to Marrakech for the next three nights. I'm sure if this short trip is a good one I will go back to explore more of the country.

    I've been agonizing over what to take with me...hence my lens question earlier in the week. Thought I had it figured out but I might be suffering Guy's disease of lens purchases. CV15 (definite), was going to take the CV21 but it is f4 and I was nervous that I would want something faster. My next up is the CV28 f3.5 which doesn't solve the problem, so the new lens would be the 28mm Ultron. The tradeoff is the huge size difference in these two 28's. If I take 28 then CV35 stays home. As I get longer I have a 50 'cron, CV75 f2.5, 90 Elmar macro and will take one of these three.

    so it may be 15, 28, 75

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    Now I understand your dilemma... Paring down to three is tough. Since the 15 is a must for you, I would probably go 15, 28, 50 since each focal almost doubles the one before it. But then I use the 28 and 50 for about 80% of all my shots. If it were me, I'd probably take 5 lenses: 12, 21, 28, 50 and a small 90 just in case. If I absolutely had to get that down to 3, the 90 would go first and then I'd debate for days between the 12 or 21, so the 15 is probably a great compromise.

    In the end, I think the "secret" to enjoyable travel photography is to find images that work for the lens you have on the camera and not the other way around.

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    Re: Happy Birthday M8 1 year ago Today

    Quote Originally Posted by Jack Flesher View Post
    Now I understand your dilemma... Paring down to three is tough. Since the 15 is a must for you, I would probably go 15, 28, 50 since each focal almost doubles the one before it. But then I use the 28 and 50 for about 80% of all my shots. If it were me, I'd probably take 5 lenses: 12, 21, 28, 50 and small 90 just in case. If I absolutely had to get that down to 3, the 90 would go first and then I'd debate for days between the 12 or 21, so the 15 is probably a great compromise at that end.

    Was trying to keep lens changes and fumbling in my bag to a minimum. Don't have the 12 so that was why the 15 was a definite. Do you agree then on buying the fast 28?

    OK so now 15, 28, 50, and then at the last moment I will panic and throw in the 90!

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    Quote Originally Posted by TEBnewyork View Post
    Was trying to keep lens changes and fumbling in my bag to a minimum. Don't have the 12 so that was why the 15 was a definite. Do you agree then on buying the fast 28?

    OK so now 15, 28, 50, and then at the last moment I will panic and throw in the 90!
    I think your overall choice is sound, and I'm not convinced you need a faster 28 unless you absolutely know you want to shoot in very low light with it --- your 50 is an f2 Cron, right? I'd just go with what you already have and use the Cron in low light. I'd probably be willing to suffer the extra noise in ISO 1250 over the added weight of the Ultron and the ability to use 320 for the few times I might want the 28 in low light... (But that's me.)

    Tip: I think you get lower noise from the M8 if you shoot at ISO 640 with -1 stop EV and then pump exposure up +1 stop in the raw converter than if you use 1250 directly on the camera.

    All that said, I hear good things about the 28 Ultron from Jamie, but it is relatively large. We always have that nasty size/speed tradeoff decision for travel lenses...
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    Re: Happy Birthday M8 1 year ago Today

    28 cron it had to be said but that maybe a down payment on a car. It truly is my lens cap. Okay forget that it is too much money. I also have found the 35 cron version IV to be SMALL and very good wide open plus has nice character to it like the 28 cron . Now there a little hard to find and me and my big mouth and others as well , Jack also the price has gone up on them. The only real choice for fast in 28 is 2600 dollar used 28 cron or the Ultron and that is big. Zeiss i believe is 2.8. This is the toughest area because you usually base your system off one or the other as your standard go too lens 28 or 35 and normally for spacing with the 28. Than you system should read like 12,21,28,50 and than the 35 mm It would be for spacing 15,24,35 and than 75.

    So my advice is get in your head what lens is your gold standard on the camera at all times than build around that.

    The issue is people just go buy a lens they think they need . What really we all should be doing is buying a system, so you need to think in terms like that. get your basic lineup in than fill in the gaps.

    Coming from the lens pig that is hard to understand but even i did that right from the get go was get the 28 cron and built around it , now every gap is filled but that is a different story
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    Re: Happy Birthday M8 1 year ago Today

    That's great advice, Guy, to build around a go-to lens. For most it will probably end up being a 28 or 35 on the M8. For me, it's the 35lux ... and the rest (too many to use at once anyway) ... follow.

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    Re: Happy Birthday M8 1 year ago Today

    Terry i found a lens for you on e-bay check your PM. Don't know the person but sounds legit a 35 cron version IV. Fair warning hanging around me can get you in real trouble. ROTFLMAO there like kids to me , love to have them all and they don't talk back. LOL
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    Re: Happy Birthday M8 1 year ago Today

    here a image wide open from it.

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    Re: Happy Birthday M8 1 year ago Today

    Quote Originally Posted by KurtKamka View Post
    That's great advice, Guy, to build around a go-to lens. For most it will probably end up being a 28 or 35 on the M8. For me, it's the 35lux ... and the rest (too many to use at once anyway) ... follow.

    Kurt
    Exactly Kurt some love the 28 and others love the 35 framing. So there is no wrong one just what is comfortable and fits your vision. But folks need to figure this out first and my advice figure this out than build
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    I have been watching that 35 on eBay, but plan to pass on it because I am lens poor right now. That Leica Germany trip cost me a WATE, 50 Lux, and Noctilux. Besides I am happy with my 35 Cron ASPH for now so my next lens purchase will be a focal length I don't have (maybe 75mm).

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    By the way, I picked up my M8 November 6th so our birthdays are close. It has been a great year - not without challenges, but very rewarding.

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    I agree Mark but overall I have been extremely happy with the results the most . The rest is the rest , i don't look back to hard on the M8. It is what it is and does produce great images.
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    Re: Happy Birthday M8 1 year ago Today

    Quote Originally Posted by Guy Mancuso View Post
    28 cron it had to be said but that maybe a down payment on a car. It truly is my lens cap. Okay forget that it is too much money. I also have found the 35 cron version IV to be SMALL and very good wide open plus has nice character to it like the 28 cron . Now there a little hard to find and me and my big mouth and others as well , Jack also the price has gone up on them. The only real choice for fast in 28 is 2600 dollar used 28 cron or the Ultron and that is big. Zeiss i believe is 2.8. This is the toughest area because you usually base your system off one or the other as your standard go too lens 28 or 35 and normally for spacing with the 28. Than you system should read like 12,21,28,50 and than the 35 mm It would be for spacing 15,24,35 and than 75.

    So my advice is get in your head what lens is your gold standard on the camera at all times than build around that.

    The issue is people just go buy a lens they think they need . What really we all should be doing is buying a system, so you need to think in terms like that. get your basic lineup in than fill in the gaps.

    Coming from the lens pig that is hard to understand but even i did that right from the get go was get the 28 cron and built around it , now every gap is filled but that is a different story
    Guy,
    That is how I started. I went for the 35 and 75 as my first two lenses. I was having some problems with my 35 LTM adapter and coding. So, I did what you would do, I bought a new lens 50 'cron new and coded. I like the lens a lot, liked having the coding. So I needed to decide if I was a 28/50 or a 35/75 kind of gal....but all I figured out was that I was a 28/35/50/75 lens whore (oh and 15,21 and 90 ).

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    Re: Happy Birthday M8 1 year ago Today

    This is what makes it so hard is find that one that you can't be without and that is either a 28 or 35 than build it from there. Me personally and i can speak for Jack also we are 21,28 , 50, 75 folks. I could shoot almost anything with a 28mm and 75 lux. Also if you get a 28 cron you can make it a little smaller with a round metal hood instead of the leica hood. The 35 cron hood is pretty nice. But my 21 and 28 Leica are sporting metal hoods which make them smaller and there cheap on e-bay . Look for a seller named heavystar.

    Hopefully i gave you some thought on this but as i said the 28 cron is the sweetheart in my kit followed by the 75 lux and the 21 elmarit. if i had to pick 3 out of the 10 lenses there first on my list. My personal choice and you have to figure what fits your style better. No one here will every tell you not to buy a 28 cron no matter what lenses you may have, the lens is that good.
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    Re: Happy Birthday M8 1 year ago Today

    BTW i was speaking of metal hoods , this is what i have on my 28 cron and i also bought a 55mm for my 21mm

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    Re: Happy Birthday M8 1 year ago Today

    Terry - A few days later CV75 color Heliar - Nice capture, it really has a joyous feeling and the OOF areas are nicely rendered.

    Kurt - I really like Way-Of-Life and experimentalfactory that you posted in the gallery. I haven't seen these two images before. Great expression in Way-Of-Life and the layers created by the reflections and distortions is superb.

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    Re: Happy Birthday M8 1 year ago Today

    Terry, the people of Morocco are notoriously hostile towards people taking their picture, so a fast tele is a must if you plan to do some street/people photography.
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    Re: Happy Birthday M8 1 year ago Today

    Quote Originally Posted by carstenw View Post
    Terry, the people of Morocco are notoriously hostile towards people taking their picture, so a fast tele is a must if you plan to do some street/people photography.
    Thanks, that's exactly how this bit of thread started. I was thinking of faster from the advice I got from you and others on LUF and had asked Jack earlier in the week about getting the 28 Ultron. I just haven't gone through my lens purchase strategy in any real methodical way. This is my first M so deciding what is going to be my "lens cap" and where to pay up and spend the money as a newbie has been an interesting journey.

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    Re: Happy Birthday M8 1 year ago Today

    Looking all over for a 28 cron , I see just that one Terry. Any leads guys on one let Terry know. i sent a e-mail to David at Dale labs also. Maybe Jim has a dealer that may have one.

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    Re: Happy Birthday M8 1 year ago Today

    Quote Originally Posted by Guy Mancuso View Post
    Looking all over for a 28 cron , I see just that one Terry. Any leads guys on one let Terry know. i sent a e-mail to David at Dale labs also. Maybe Jim has a dealer that may have one.

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    thanks! I will call Photo Village when they open up. I think I am going to be one poor chickie by the end of today. I now know of two used and two new.

    If anyone else is interested on joining me in the poor house, I also found a new 24 elmarit in the process.

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    Re: Happy Birthday M8 1 year ago Today

    Quote Originally Posted by TEBnewyork View Post
    Thanks, that's exactly how this bit of thread started. I was thinking of faster from the advice I got from you and others on LUF and had asked Jack earlier in the week about getting the 28 Ultron. I just haven't gone through my lens purchase strategy in any real methodical way. This is my first M so deciding what is going to be my "lens cap" and where to pay up and spend the money as a newbie has been an interesting journey.
    Terry:

    Seriously, if money isn't the issue here, just get the 28 Cron --- you won't regret it at all. With th 28/50 Crons as your base, I would then take your 21 and 15 --- the 15 is so small you can hide it in a wrap stored under your 21 and it will hardly be noticed and there if you need it... Then the small 90 and you will set for anything at about the same total weight as if you had taken the 28 Ultron, 50 Cron and 15 CV...

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    I agree Jack with the 28 cron and 50 cron she has a great starter set and with her 15 and 21 to fill in the gaps. There are also many types of 90 out there and in Leica alone there very good. The new 90 Summarit maybe a winner too. Having the 28 cron as the go to lens is the way to go, if the 28 fits your view
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    Re: Happy Birthday M8 1 year ago Today

    I love you guys..... Where else can a two lenses at $4800 be considered a starter set!

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    You gotta watch Guy, he is very helpful in spending your money. At least you can be content in knowing you are getting good advice from him. He is right about the 28 Cron. It is on my list of gotta get lenses - to bad the list is bigger than my toy fund.

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    I am on location for couple hours but you should see this site on a Iphone. Pretty damn cool
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    This is one of the very first shots I took with the M8, November 10, 2006, with my unfiltered 28 Elmarit ASPH, and processed with my profiles to mitigate the magenta.

    Handheld at 1/16 of a second, eating dinner close by with my M8 and making a quick grab shot, I knew I was going to love this system for unobtrusive photography

    What I didn't know is that I would catch Guy's disease and spend all my money on M glass!! LOL!!

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    You gotta watch Guy, he is very helpful in spending your money. At least you can be content in knowing you are getting good advice from him. He is right about the 28 Cron. It is on my list of gotta get lenses - to bad the list is bigger than my toy fund.
    Yea I am pretty deadly on this front, otherwise a sweetheart

    Maybe i should change my signature to a warning. Gives great advice but watch your cash. LOL
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    Re: Happy Birthday M8 1 year ago Today

    Quote Originally Posted by Jamie Roberts View Post
    This is one of the very first shots I took with the M8, November 10, 2006, with my unfiltered 28 Elmarit ASPH, and processed with my profiles to mitigate the magenta.

    Handheld at 1/16 of a second, eating dinner close by with my M8 and making a quick grab shot, I knew I was going to love this system for unobtrusive photography

    What I didn't know is that I would catch Guy's disease and spend all my money on M glass!! LOL!!

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    This disease thing is killing me. ROTFLMAO
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    Re: Happy Birthday M8 1 year ago Today

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    I love you guys..... Where else can a two lenses at $4800 be considered a starter set!
    LOL Well stay off the R forum because Woody has a nice 3 lens "starter set" for sale over there: 15 Elmar, 35-70 Elmarit, & 70-180 Elmarit (or the 105-280 if you prefer longer). That would get you going (broke!) fast. Only gap is you'd have to pick up a 19 or 28.

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    Re: Happy Birthday M8 1 year ago Today

    I did it. I am now the proud owner of a 28 'cron. I'm lazy and went for new and coded and gave up instant gratification and shipped it to save a tidy sum.

    Guy, posted from my iPhone.

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    Re: Happy Birthday M8 1 year ago Today

    ROTFLMAO . I had a feeling that 28 cron was pretty darn close to the grasp of your hands. LOL

    You will love it , Terry. Many happy and rewarding images with it.


    Iphone is cool is that not the (whatever the kids say). I can read , write and even admin the site from my Iphone, Beach trip.

    The images are great too
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    Re: Happy Birthday M8 1 year ago Today

    Quote Originally Posted by TEBnewyork View Post
    I did it. I am now the proud owner of a 28 'cron. I'm lazy and went for new and coded and gave up instant gratification and shipped it to save a tidy sum.

    Guy, posted from my iPhone.
    Now you want us to buy a damned iPhone . . . . they go on sale over here tomorrow . . . should I queue up then?

    as for the 28 'cron - I can resist, but that 24 elmarit of which you speak Terry is more difficult . . . . but my 25 zeiss does actually work, is actually sharp . . . .

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    Re: Happy Birthday M8 1 year ago Today

    Quote Originally Posted by TEBnewyork View Post
    I did it. I am now the proud owner of a 28 'cron. I'm lazy and went for new and coded and gave up instant gratification and shipped it to save a tidy sum.

    Guy, posted from my iPhone.
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    Re: Happy Birthday M8 1 year ago Today

    Jono, Portfolio in your pocket

    What service provider for UK
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    Re: Happy Birthday M8 1 year ago Today

    Quote Originally Posted by jonoslack View Post
    Now you want us to buy a damned iPhone . . . . they go on sale over here tomorrow . . . should I queue up then?

    as for the 28 'cron - I can resist, but that 24 elmarit of which you speak Terry is more difficult . . . . but my 25 zeiss does actually work, is actually sharp . . . .
    Jono,
    At an exchange rate of 2.10 you can fly over and pick it up for free. They still have it......p

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    Congrats on the 28 'cron, Terry!

    It's the one M lens still calling me, but it's dialling collect and I can't accept the charges!! LOL!!

    You know that joke won't even make sense in a year or two? Jono probably doesn't even make "collect calls"...

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    Re: Happy Birthday M8 1 year ago Today

    Quote Originally Posted by Jamie Roberts View Post
    It's the one M lens still calling me, but it's dialling collect and I can't accept the charges!! LOL!!
    That is the funniest line I have read in a very long time. I guess because I am in the same situation and all I can do is laugh about it.

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