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    Re: Anyone heard anything?

    My bet would be, that they are going to revive the Digilux,by slapping a badge on the GX7.
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    I heard that too - same about the partnership - but no details yet.

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    Its an ideal time as Panasonic have just announced the availability of a 17mm f/1.7 'Leica' lens and of course the planned 42.5mm f/1.2 Nocticron for next year.

    I have always thought Leica should be involved with m43 if nothing else to get a technological leg up by collaboration with an ambitious partner. I just wish it had been with Olympus as their technology tie in with Sony puts them both on the sunnier side of the street right now.

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    Strange this.

    Reading previous threads..the oohs and the ahhs have been for that ' Rangefinder ' experience. That orgasm that is derived from holding an M.

    The ' process ' of photographing with an ' M '. That zen moment.

    I wonder why then any interest in Pansonic rebadged ( or OEM supplied ) non M equipment.

    Could it be a lust for variety. Or for something newer? Or an unfulfilled dream?

    Like I have always believed..more fish in the sea than one can cast a net at.

    p.s. take someone to a party, but not to meet the parents on the off chance one runs into something more interesting.

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    Re: Anyone heard anything?

    I've always felt that Leica would do well to get into µ43, but they've repeatedly said that APS-c was small enough.

    I would have thought a re-worked (rather than just re-badged) GX7 would be an excellent idea . . . but I'd be REALLY surprised if it happened.

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    Anything Panasonic created if Leica brings it out as "cloned" or "reworked" is not worth its skin, IMO. It is better if they license their recognizable logo for revenues.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Vivek View Post
    Anything Panasonic created if Leica brings it out as "cloned" or "reworked" is not worth its skin, IMO. It is better if they license their recognizable logo for revenues.
    Hi Vivek - to be honest I'm perfectly happy with both approaches. However - W
    what I'd like to see is Leica making their own µ43 bodies and lenses - seems to me that way they can leverage the richer section of the µ43 community to sell bodies and lenses, and then tap into an already considerable selection of decent lenses. But I don't think they'll do it.

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    I think it's similar to Apple products... They could release an iBrick and people would still get a little nutty over it.

    Leica might do well to embrace µ43, but like DSLRs, it's a tough market with so much competition. They've steered clear of these so far. M on one extreme, compacts on the other.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Double Negative View Post
    I think it's similar to Apple products... They could release an iBrick and people would still get a little nutty over it.
    That might NOT translate into sales though.

    Digital Leica CL with a silent shutter (no video!), I am in.

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    But there are Leica m4/3 products out there. They are just made by Panasonic, and they are all lenses. Which makes it all the more puzzling why they don't make a body as well. But maybe they want to have a complete lens set available first. That will be the situation very soon, with 15mm f/1.7, 25mm f/1.4, 42.5mm f/1.2 and 45mm f/2.8 macro.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Vivek View Post
    Anything Panasonic created if Leica brings it out as "cloned" or "reworked" is not worth its skin, IMO. It is better if they license their recognizable logo for revenues.
    I don't agree. I wouldn't buy a logo makeover on a GX7, and probably most people here wouldn't buy one either. But as an easy introduction into the marketplace it makes a lot of sense given they will be aimed at a different consumer. Leica's own efforts can come later, but having a body available immediately will have the knock on effect of a wider range of Leica designed lenses to go with it. Saying it is just a clone of a GX7 (or whatever) is throwing the baby out with the bathwater and not looking at the wider picture.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jorgen Udvang View Post
    But there are Leica m4/3 products out there. They are just made by Panasonic, and they are all lenses. Which makes it all the more puzzling why they don't make a body as well. But maybe they want to have a complete lens set available first. That will be the situation very soon, with 15mm f/1.7, 25mm f/1.4, 42.5mm f/1.2 and 45mm f/2.8 macro.

    I think it's just a question of time
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    I quite agree - really puzzles me too - It seems like a no-brainer to me, and those of the lenses I've tried are really excellent, very odd.

    From public interviews it seems to me that they simply don't think that µ43 can provide good enough image quality, which is strange in the light of all the D-luxes and V-luxes . . . and so patently wrong!

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    To borrow a phrase from shaving, "Give away the body and sell the lenses."

    Though it didn't work so well for Zeiss... The Ikon is toast.
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    I find the whole low end of Leica sales a mystery. I was in the very Leica-dominated Frankfurt Z-concourse camera store a few days ago. They had three windows full of M-lenses, M-cameras, and an S-camera. One window full of little Leicas, and two windows (off behind a counter to the left) full of Olympus M43, with many of Olympus' lenses, but i did not notice the PanaLeica lenses among them. I suppose Panasonic provides the marketing support funds for those.



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    Leica's clearly using the whizzbang-featured and inexpensive Leica C as a gateway drug to entice younger shooters to the brand. Also appealing to the folks that just want a tiny camera with a bit of bling by having The Dot (look at the clutch case for crying out loud). Truth be told, Panasonic or Leica branded, it DOES take nice pictures.
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    Re: Anyone heard anything?

    We have some traction here: Did Leica change their mind about MFT? Panasonic will sell them interchangeable mount cameras! | 43 Rumors

    I have to visit the local boutique shop when it debuts.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Vivek View Post
    We have some traction here: Did Leica change their mind about MFT? Panasonic will sell them interchangeable mount cameras! | 43 Rumors

    I have to visit the local boutique shop when it debuts.
    The image quality can't be much to write home about if it doesn't feature a wooden grip

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    You can not be more wrong there, Jorgen!

    It will be supplied bundled with the latest LR as opposed to SilkyPix. This, you see, will bring out all the micro contrast and such salient aspects of a PanaLeica lens.
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    No Instagram filters - no sale!

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    Re: Anyone heard anything?

    Not even a reskinned new Panasonic?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Vivek View Post
    Not even a reskinned new Panasonic?
    You'd think something like that would be easy to spit out, but nope. I'm not sure what to say, LOL. Who knows. Maybe a last minute deal fell through, something couldn't be done in time - or, there's just nothing new coming for a while. Only Leica knows for sure.

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    Re: Anyone heard anything?

    Oops! My apologies.

    Now, I have to get back to the Panasonic GM1. A big let down.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Vivek View Post
    Oops! My apologies.

    Now, I have to get back to the Panasonic GM1. A big let down.
    Ah well - some you win, some you lose!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Double Negative View Post
    You'd think something like that would be easy to spit out, but nope. I'm not sure what to say, LOL. Who knows. Maybe a last minute deal fell through, something couldn't be done in time - or, there's just nothing new coming for a while. Only Leica knows for sure.
    They only brought out the C a couple of months ago - you only want to spit out a Panasonic once a year . I expect there will be something in the spring. I'm still sad that there isn't a µ43 body though - seems like a missed opportunity.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jonoslack View Post
    Ah well - some you win, some you lose!

    I will not get a GM1, I will not get a GM1, I will not get a GM1

    Did you take a look at the grip, Jono?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Vivek View Post
    Did you take a look at the grip, Jono?
    Which Grip is that Vivek? the one for the GM1?

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    Naturally! Cute!

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    So it is a D-Lux 6 in silver.

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    Naturally! Cute!
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    My bet is on photokina or start of German financial year if Leica are going to announce anything major.

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    Photokina is pretty late in the year, so I'm not too sure about that one. I'd bet on major stuff being held out for that. But the beginning of Q1 sounds reasonable for compacts, etc.

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    Leica should stuff an OLED in place of the RF and call it whatever they want as long as it is FF and 24MP, it will sell well and keep new customers buying M lenses.

    I'd consider one for a backup to my M. Would they get away with calling it a Mini M even though it has no RF?

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    I'm hoping for a new M-E someday with the new CMOS sensor...

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    Quote Originally Posted by algrove View Post
    Leica should stuff an OLED in place of the RF and call it whatever they want as long as it is FF and 24MP, it will sell well and keep new customers buying M lenses.

    I'd consider one for a backup to my M. Would they get away with calling it a Mini M even though it has no RF?
    Leica should do this. Sony may eat their lunch if Leica wides work decently well on the A7r.
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    Quote Originally Posted by weinschela View Post
    Leica should do this. Sony may eat their lunch if Leica wides work decently well on the A7r.
    I think not; Leica’s core business is selling lenses. If they can sell a considerable number of them to other-brand owners that is good for their bottom line.
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    A rebranded GX7 - and double the price?! Nah, I would sooner get the EM1.

    A rebranded GM1 however, with the Leica logo...........now we might be talking.

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