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    The Review the world has been waiting for ...

    LEICA M typ 240 Review by Ken Rockwell

    Good for a laugh!!
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    Re: The Review the world has been waiting for ...

    I'd never read anything by Rockwell, and now I've read several paragraphs.

    Of the little I read, this is my favorite:

    The M typ 240 makes decent enough color right out of the camera as JPGs, while the only way to get usable color from the M9 was to shoot in DNG and use Aperture.

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    Re: The Review the world has been waiting for ...

    Quote Originally Posted by stephengilbert View Post
    I'd never read anything by Rockwell, and now I've read several paragraphs.

    Of the little I read, this is my favorite:

    The M typ 240 makes decent enough color right out of the camera as JPGs, while the only way to get usable color from the M9 was to shoot in DNG and use Aperture.
    I think KR is a hoot! It beats reading the comic strips in the daily paper.

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    Re: The Review the world has been waiting for ...

    Before criticizing, you should prove that you can do better.

    I for one enjoy reading his reviews.
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    Quote Originally Posted by magosak View Post
    Before criticizing, you should prove that you can do better.

    I for one enjoy reading his reviews.
    You really don t have to be “better” to be a critic …..seriously the very best curators,photo editors and art directors are rarely better than the talent they evaluate and often employ . And this case we are speaking about a technical review of camera equipment …..not really a validation of KR skills as a photographer .

    You can certainly learn something from KR s reviews as they sometimes provide a perspective thats different than other reviews sites . Unfortunately this review is seriously flawed .

    For example …less DR range in the highlights with the new M240 than the M9 …its the exact opposite . How do I know ? I did this test myself with a color checker and a grey scale . The M240 has a linear tone curve (out of the camera ) with a higher set point for highlights than an M9 ..so its easier to blow the highlights . However it has much better DR in the highlights …as you should want it . This unfortunately is a key factor in the out of the camera differences ….the M9 has compressed highlights which appear as brilliance in the out of the camera files …perfect for many photographs not so great if the highlight tones are important to the image .

    This is presenting mis information as fact without supporting proof . Thats different that advising that the out of the camera jpegs are great so who cares about the DNG .

    Its fine to consider differing perspectives and I ve learned many things from KR reviews especially on the nikon lenses .
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    Although he writes a lot of nonsense, there is a kind of down to earth common sense in his articles that I like. The problem is that those without knowledge will have problems separating the sense from the nonsense. However, when it comes to Leica cameras and lenses, that doesn't matter much, does it? Those who want one and can afford it will buy it regardless
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    I like his down to earth common sense advice and findings. He just shoots himself in the foot with his sometimes naive, sometimes wrong, sometimes illogical and often times dumb statements that ruin his credibility.

    That said, I'm sure that he does just fine with his ad revenue and affiliate sell through. Let's not confuse education and public service with making a living from the internet.

    P.s. Damn, now I'm going to have to go over there and take a look and bump up his page views.
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    Quote Originally Posted by magosak View Post
    Before criticizing, you should prove that you can do better.

    I for one enjoy reading his reviews.
    Who's criticising? I enjoy reading his articles, I just don't take him too seriously. Nor does he.

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    Do not take Ken too seriously. I suggest you go to his "About" page and read the first paragraph of the About and the fourth paragraph from the end of the About. Explains everything? At least you have to enjoy his style.
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    He's laughing all the way to the bank.
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    Not that I care for either of the Huffwells, but at least one can read Ken's diatribe.
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    Re: The Review the world has been waiting for ...

    Quote Originally Posted by bradhusick View Post
    He's laughing all the way to the bank.
    Then, he's not a burden to society. Good for him, good for us

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    He's amusing, but does make some very pertinent points. He's right about the weight of the M240.
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    Re: The Review the world has been waiting for ...

    "Versus iPhone

    The iPhone 5S shoots faster, has a wider dynamic range and has better colors and auto white balance than the M typ 240."

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    Re: The Review the world has been waiting for ...

    I like how he always asks for donations, but drives this:

    Porsche Cayenne Turbo S Review

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    My biggest issue with him and I refuse to read his stuff anymore is he maybe entertaining but he is also very misleading to beginners that just don't know any better. To me that's a big problem. I know myself I never want to mislead anyone on my thoughts. I feel it a obligation to not do that but he certainly is laughing all the way to the bank. Great business model poor ethics.
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    Re: The Review the world has been waiting for ...

    Lots of good information, but some controversial, too.

    "Only a fool uses discount lenses like Voigtländer on an M 240"
    "...it would be foolish to use it with anything other than the finest lenses [he means Leica vs. competition here], without which you'll only get half the quality for which you paid..."
    "50mm SUMMICRON is much sharper than the 50mm SUMMILUX ASPH for nature and landscape shots"

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    Re: The Review the world has been waiting for ...

    Quote Originally Posted by Jorgen Udvang View Post
    Then, he's not a burden to society. Good for him, good for us
    Don't know about "not a burden to society"

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    Quote Originally Posted by dude163 View Post
    I like how he always asks for donations, but drives this:

    Porsche Cayenne Turbo S Review
    I've never once thought that Ken Rockwell was struggling with his internet business. Good for him from a business perspective. If you gave him a donation and thought that it was to keep him and his family off the bread line and welfare then more the fool you. (figuratively speaking, not literally YOU).
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    Invaluable site and info, I never buy anything till KR give it the thumbs-up.

    So I'm passing on the M240 of course...
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    Re: The Review the world has been waiting for ...

    If you really want to read KR`s best yet, enjoy his comparison of M240, M9, Nikon 600, Fuji X100s with jpegs only:
    LEICA*M*typ*240 vs. LEICA M9 vs. Fuji X100S vs. Nikon D600 Image*Quality*Comparison

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    Quote Originally Posted by Guy Mancuso View Post
    My biggest issue with him and I refuse to read his stuff anymore is he maybe entertaining but he is also very misleading to beginners that just don't know any better. To me that's a big problem. I know myself I never want to mislead anyone on my thoughts. I feel it a obligation to not do that but he certainly is laughing all the way to the bank. Great business model poor ethics.
    My guess is he doesn't believe he's misleading anyone. He seems sincere to me - even his bombast.

    Google for just about anything camerwise and Ken will be close to the top. He's grown on me over the years. I look past all his superlatives and find a lot of good information on his site.

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    Re: The Review the world has been waiting for ...

    I'm just waiting for him to review the M5.

    Many of his reviews are excellent, but some are just pure crap, like his summary dismissal of the Summarit lenses despite making it clear he never actually used them.
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    There are better ways to waste your life time than reading these kind of reviews. Honestly, one unsupported blatant statement after the other. Brrrr.
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    Reminds me of hanging out at the old gas station with some of the guys, shooting the breeze. Fun on a hot summer day when there was nothing else to do…but if you had a girlfriend, it wasn't worth the time.
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    Re: The Review the world has been waiting for ...

    i enjoy reading all reviews on cameras and lenses i'm considering--one reviewer might pick up something useful that another feels irrelevant. the decision to buy or pass on gear is mine.

    i know the kind of work i do for myself and what I need to deliver for paid assignments--which is 95% of what i do with camera anyway. Ken's reviews are helpful as are others. I also suspect many people who review gear never really have to deliver for clients--thus they waste time worrying about features too much. So you discount this and look for any new information you can pick up in a review.
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    Re: The Review the world has been waiting for ...

    He does have lots of good info, and most of the time his assessment is correct.

    However, from time to time, he goes right off the deep end into lala land.

    Cases in point:
    reviews of the CV 50/1.1 and Leica 90/2.5 are not in keeping with my own first hand experience.

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