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    talk about being a sucker for a pretty face...

    Here is proof I have no will power, my latest Leica acquisition...

    And I can hear Guy screaming at me already!

    But aint she purdy?



    ...

    (and yes, that is a FILM camera!)
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    Re: talk about being a sucker for a pretty face...

    WE TEACH DIGITAL WORKSHOPS.



    Could have bought me one too.ROTFL:
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    Jack, It's a beautiful thing!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Feels great in your hands and as smooth as butter! Ben Tanner

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    That's a bloody big diamond! Nice MP. I hope to have one some day, but first I must get a film scanner, and maybe a Jobo film developer too, otherwise it makes little sense.
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    Re: talk about being a sucker for a pretty face...

    I just got my M6 classic back from Sherry Krautner and loaded it up with some Tmax-100 and the older 35/2 (III I believe, it's from 1970). Had the camera overhauled (she had to make sure I understood how dirty it was) and got the slow speed shutter assembly replaced, plus the lens overhauled. Both work great and are a pleasure to use. The lens is smoooth. I got this done in part because I wanted to play around with the CV 12 on a FF camera, but there's also something pleasing about the tactile feel of an M film body.

    Edit: Of course, my M6 is not exactly an MP!
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    Film?

    What's that?

    Gorgeous Leica, Jack!!! (If the M8 had been paint, I'd have gone with the black.)

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    Re: talk about being a sucker for a pretty face...

    I miss my M7s and B&W film.

    After 30 continuous years of shooting Ms, I still try to wind the M8 out of reflex memory ... LOL.

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    Lot's for a traditional M shooter to appreciate on this camera: all metal advance lever, the smaller shutter speed dial, although it only adjusts in full speeds per the original, MP framelines are the bomb. Add to that a real, all brass body for the black paint base; brass is much quieter than the regular metal --- this camera snicks, it doesn't snap or click and the advance is almost in-audible. Lastly, while this "new" version does have a built-in meter, it retains the all mechanical shutter.

    I got it for B&W, specifically, I like the look of halation you get from T-Max 3200 exposed at 800 (impossible to replicate on digital), and of course T-Max 400 is very nice for every-day B&W.
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    Re: talk about being a sucker for a pretty face...

    Quote Originally Posted by Jack Flesher View Post
    T-Max 400 is very nice for every-day B&W.

    Nice camera. I have a black M3 modified to take a motor drive and it has that super smooth shutter release and sound as you describe.

    In regards to TMAX 400, I was cleaning my workbench today and found a roll of Tmax 400 with push 1 written on it. It must be at least two years old or more. I might just develop and see what I get.

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    LOL! A few days ago I bid on a Bessa R (I have a couple of screw mount lenses) and......

    the auction ended a few minutes ago....Not your nice MP but for $152 (my winning bid) worth giving film a try....

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    Re: talk about being a sucker for a pretty face...

    Jack,
    It is beautiful! Maybe we need a film forum section. It seems like a lot of us are still using film.

    This is mine:

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    Re: talk about being a sucker for a pretty face...

    the black paint MP is a must have for the Leica afficionado - well done Jack!

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    Re: talk about being a sucker for a pretty face...

    Quote Originally Posted by Cindy Flood View Post
    Jack,
    It is beautiful! Maybe we need a film forum section. It seems like a lot of us are still using film.
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    Hi Cindy:

    The fact is we're not as snobbish here as some other sites are --- note the the title of this forum is "Leica M" and not Leica M8 . And in truth, ANY Leica screw-mount rangefinder is welcome here too, even though they technically aren't M's. We also have the "other cameras" section for everything else, including film. The main reason is much of the discussion about lenses and accessories is applicable to all of the M's and even other M-mount cameras, so it makes a nice unified location to ask or find information.

    PS: That's a BEAUTY too!!! Love the Luigi case!

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    Quote Originally Posted by PeterA View Post
    the black paint MP is a must have for the Leica afficionado - well done Jack!
    Thanks Peter! I've been lusting after one of these ever since they were announced. I held off until I just couldn't take it any more
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    Re: talk about being a sucker for a pretty face...

    Quote Originally Posted by TEBnewyork View Post
    LOL! A few days ago I bid on a Bessa R (I have a couple of screw mount lenses) and......

    the auction ended a few minutes ago....Not your nice MP but for $152 (my winning bid) worth giving film a try....
    Terry:

    VERY cool snag for trying film!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jack Flesher View Post
    Terry:

    VERY cool snag for trying film!
    I agree, the Bessas are nice cameras. I have a Bessa T (finderless, M mount) and Bessaflex TM (42mm screwmount SLR). They're not Leicas, but quite nice to use, reliable, and cheap.

    (The Bessaflex reminds me a lot of the Nikon FM2 I once had and loved. It's not something I use a lot, more of an inexpensive fun item.)

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    I just keep thinking how cool it would be to have digital MP.

    I simply can't afford chemical photography.

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    Re: talk about being a sucker for a pretty face...

    Quote Originally Posted by Maggie O View Post
    I just keep thinking how cool it would be to have digital MP.

    I simply can't afford chemical photography.
    Maggie,
    I don't find it too expensive, and the MP is a complement (and emergency backup) to my M8.
    Film can range from $2 up depending on how much you buy in bulk and what you buy.
    I take my film to the lab and just have it developed...no prints. It is cheaper and fun to do it yourself (black and white), if you have room. Costs $3-5 to have it done at local lab (not a professional lab).
    I then scan it with my Coolscan V. This cost about $500 originally. I use vuescan software which cost $80 (free upgrades for life.)
    Save your scans as 16 bit tiffs.... and move on to a digital workflow.

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    Ah...so hard to stop once you start

    The older brother of my M6...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cindy Flood View Post
    Maggie,
    I don't find it too expensive, and the MP is a complement (and emergency backup) to my M8.
    Film can range from $2 up depending on how much you buy in bulk and what you buy.
    I take my film to the lab and just have it developed...no prints. It is cheaper and fun to do it yourself (black and white), if you have room. Costs $3-5 to have it done at local lab (not a professional lab).
    I then scan it with my Coolscan V. This cost about $500 originally. I use vuescan software which cost $80 (free upgrades for life.)
    Save your scans as 16 bit tiffs.... and move on to a digital workflow.
    Sounds pretty darn expensive to me. Once I lost access to a darkroom, film was dead to me. I quit trusting labs to do my film and prints a long time ago.

    Digital is great- I can shoot hundreds of photos and it doesn't cost me a cent anymore. And printing- once the capital costs are out of the way, ink and paper are much cheaper than darkroom rent, chemicals, papers, etc... to do chemical prints.

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    Re: talk about being a sucker for a pretty face...

    Quote Originally Posted by Jamie Roberts View Post
    Ah...so hard to stop once you start

    The older brother of my M6...
    Oh so true... Keep an eye out for a new thread from me titled, "Oops, I did it again!"

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    Re: talk about being a sucker for a pretty face...

    Well, in that case - the prettiest face in my camera bag...
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    That's a beauty Jaap!
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    Re: talk about being a sucker for a pretty face...

    So a finny thing happened to me at lunch today...

    I went in to my local camera repair shop to pick up my 73mm Hektor from it's CLA. (FYI, the 73mm Hektor IS a Leica thread mount lens! It is vintage 1930's and has a reputation as a sweet portrait lens at the more open apertures.) Anyway, what do I spy under the counter on consignment, except a very clean Leica iiif with an equally clean 50mm Elmar f3.5 black scale mounted on it. The price was pretty good too, but then I notice a letter of provenience... Turns out it's from Congresswoman Mary Bono, confirming this particular iiif belonged to her late husband, Sonny(!)

    So the short version is, "Oops, I did it again!"



    Here is a snap showing the camera with the 73 Hektor. this image was taken with the M8 and 90 Summarit:



    And just for fun, here's a shot taken with the old Hektor on the M8. This lens is an f1.9 lens, but unfortunately my studio strobes on minimum prevent me from opening up to more than about f6.3 at ISO 160, so you'll not see the full effect of this lens in this shot; moreover, the Hektor gets surprisingly sharp after about f4.5. this at f6.3:



    ...

    But again, aint she pretty?
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    That III is GORGEOUS!

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    Amazing! Unused?
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    Re: talk about being a sucker for a pretty face...

    Quote Originally Posted by Jack Flesher View Post



    ...

    But again, aint she pretty?
    She is drop-dead gorgeous!!!! Jaap's M3 is beautiful, too. And to think that you can still use these cameras after more than 50 years.... they are more than a pretty face.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jaapv View Post
    Amazing! Unused?
    Thanks Maggie & Cindy!

    Jaap,

    It's definitely used, but obviously gently over it's life; in excellent condition all around as is the lens --- very clean copy of the f3.5 Elmar, no haze, no oil. Obviously a late model iiif, since it has the self-timer.
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    Re: talk about being a sucker for a pretty face...

    Jack,
    Congratulations? Guess she was cleaning out the house as I thought I heard she just remarried. Amazing how pristine it looks. After you have bought a few more things you can have a sale like this one..

    http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.d...ocusZbsQQfviZ1

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    snick, that is exactly the sound, have not heard it since I sold the M3. The CLE is pretty quiet though, the Bessa not so .

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    Quote Originally Posted by TEBnewyork View Post
    Jack,
    Congratulations? Guess she was cleaning out the house as I thought I heard she just remarried. Amazing how pristine it looks. After you have bought a few more things you can have a sale like this one..

    http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.d...ocusZbsQQfviZ1

    LOLOLOLOLOLOL!!!!! Man, that is a lot of $hi# for sale on one auction!!! Bottom line is you guys pretty much have heard me talk about every piece of gear I own, and it aint nothing like that!
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    And I thought you might have bought something like this!

    Seriously, I watched that auction and it was neat to see it go to someone who will put it in a museum.

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    Re: talk about being a sucker for a pretty face...

    See. It's reasons like the above why I avoided B&H when I was in NYC last weekend. Had I been foolish enough to go into the store, I probably would have walked out with more than I could afford to walk out with, right now

    Jack,
    Have fun with your new toy!

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    Quote Originally Posted by TEBnewyork View Post
    Okay, I'm terribly curious, I know that prices can be someone subjective... but in your own estimation, what do you think this auction is "worth" if it were purchased individually, piece-by-piece?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jan Brittenson View Post
    And I thought you might have bought something like this!

    Seriously, I watched that auction and it was neat to see it go to someone who will put it in a museum.
    Jan, next time we're together, remind me to tell you a story about a past life of mine... Hint: You ever hear of SoloTrek or Trek Aerospace?
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    Quote Originally Posted by ChrisDauer View Post
    See. It's reasons like the above why I avoided B&H when I was in NYC last weekend. Had I been foolish enough to go into the store, I probably would have walked out with more than I could afford to walk out with, right now

    Jack,
    Have fun with your new toy!
    thanks Chris --

    Truth be told, the iiif will probably get one roll of film through it some day just for posterity, then get resigned to a display case. The MP is a different story however --- I plan to use that puppy enough to wear the paint off it
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    This thread can get me in trouble. Love Ya but I'm out of here.
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    Jack--

    Jeebus, as Homer would say. You have Sonny Bono's camera?!?!

    It's gorgeous.... just gorgeous!

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    Of course, my M3 is a bit of a fake. It is a late series one M3 (no frameselector,old speeds, screwed top plate, but without the sloping part under the film wind lever) from 1954.
    But there were no black-paint cameras in that series, except for about ten that Leica did on special request as retrofit.
    This one has been painted by Shintaro. It took a twenty month round trip to Japan and I only got it returned a few weeks ago.
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    Re: talk about being a sucker for a pretty face...

    Quote Originally Posted by jaapv View Post
    Of course, my M3 is a bit of a fake. It is a late series one M3 (no frameselector,old speeds, screwed top plate, but without the sloping part under the film wind lever) from 1954.
    But there were no black-paint cameras in that series, except for about ten that Leica did on special request as retrofit.
    This one has been painted by Shintaro. It took a twenty month round trip to Japan and I only got it returned a few weeks ago.
    I should stop complaining about Leica NJ Turn around time.
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    Quote Originally Posted by rwfreund View Post
    I should stop complaining about Leica NJ Turn around time.
    Take the attitude that the path chosen is more important than the destination
    Ommmmmmmm
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    I don't believe Leica NJ had anything to do with this, after all, Shintaro lives in Tokyo....But yes, the result was worth the wait.
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    Re: talk about being a sucker for a pretty face...

    Quote Originally Posted by jaapv View Post
    Of course, my M3 is a bit of a fake. It is a late series one M3 (no frameselector,old speeds, screwed top plate, but without the sloping part under the film wind lever) from 1954.
    But there were no black-paint cameras in that series, except for about ten that Leica did on special request as retrofit.
    This one has been painted by Shintaro. It took a twenty month round trip to Japan and I only got it returned a few weeks ago.
    Jaap:

    I can't remember if it was you, but were you the one complaining on the LUF that Shintaro had lost your camera?

    He painted a M2 and M3 for me in 2001 and did an excellent job. I think it took about a month including the shipping.


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    Yes - he lost it and found it.The problem turned out to be the total lack of communication. Thanks to Tom Abrahamsson the camera was found It is very well done, and in retrospect I am happy with it.
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    Re: talk about being a sucker for a pretty face...

    Quote Originally Posted by Jack Flesher View Post
    thanks Chris --

    Truth be told, the iiif will probably get one roll of film through it some day just for posterity, then get resigned to a display case. The MP is a different story however --- I plan to use that puppy enough to wear the paint off it
    Jack,
    I'm just giving you a hard time!

    Great purchases, both of them. With so many cool toys and such little time, I have to budget accordingly.
    With 2 canon lenses (at the bottom of my list),
    a Nikon lens (at the top, seriously ),
    and Leica in the middle... all I can think about is May
    Of course, then I think why is May taking so long to get here!

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    Hey Jack..i too am a sucker for pretty faces..so much so that i am unashamedly and legally a polygamist!!

    can't resist them! my current love:



    my first love:



    paying equal attention is pretty difficult!

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    Re: talk about being a sucker for a pretty face...

    Quote Originally Posted by jaapv View Post
    I don't believe Leica NJ had anything to do with this, after all, Shintaro lives in Tokyo....But yes, the result was worth the wait.
    I didn't mean to imply that Leica NJ had anything to do with it.
    More clearly (I hope):
    Since you got such good results and had an extremely long wait, am I foolish complaining about Leica NJ repair turn-around times measured in weeks when it could be measured in months?

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    Re: talk about being a sucker for a pretty face...

    Quote Originally Posted by rayyan View Post
    Hey Jack..i too am a sucker for pretty faces..so much so that i am unashamedly and legally a polygamist!!

    can't resist them!

    paying equal attention is pretty difficult!
    A Black Paint M7 was my first choice initially, but then I saw the MP and realized if I went M7, it would have to be an a-la-carte version with MP advance, shutter and rewind levers. Now I need to find a Black Paint 50 Summilux .
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    Re: talk about being a sucker for a pretty face...

    All these pretty faces reminded me of my poor gal that hasn't seen daylight in my bottom desk drawal from I don't know when. I'd like to say I just bought it for $50,000 from the Leica museum sale, but it is really a Shintaro job which I gave the old gal as her retirement present about 10 years ago.

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    Here is my contribution to the black paint camera photos. This is what I call my all Canadian combo It is a Canadian made M3 with a Canadian 50mm Summicron and a Canadian made Rapidwinder. It is all Canadian with the exception of the black paint applied by Shintaro.

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    Those are VERY pretty!
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