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    Re: What to make of the new Leica slim M?

    Quote Originally Posted by aDam007 View Post

    Paratom - I didn't know there even was an RX2 rumour that said it would be significantly smaller. I just couldn't see giving up the M-system for something else Leica cooks up, unless it were the M-AF pipe dream I mentioned above.


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    Re: What to make of the new Leica slim M?

    Looks good (except for the rumored price).

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    Not bad in Leica terms, considering you nearly pay that much for a 28/2.0 M lens. Oh, I forgot they have a garage sale on those lenses now at $3750 instead of $4295. But that's cheap compared to the new M 28/1.4 at $6k. Wonder when the garage sale ends as it's been ongoing since 1 January 2015?

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    Looking at the newest rumours. The camera looks cool (assuming it's not faked), if the top dial is a shutter dial, then that's good. Hopefully it isn't a stupid mode dial.

    The other thing, looks like aperture ring on the lens, and seems strangely capable of MF, definitely a viewfinder built in.. The 1.7 and "Summilux" bothers me.. Makes me think it's a APS-C camera again. Weird that at the mount it seems almost detachable.

    Also hope if it is 1.7 that it's fixed, and doesn't cheat you like the other X type out there.

    Wonder if it'll have a Sony sensor? Based on the high ISO that's a possibility


    Not something I'd buy over a 28summicron.. But sure looks pretty

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    Quote Originally Posted by aDam007 View Post
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    Not something I'd buy over a 28summicron.. But sure looks pretty
    That's a little amusing in that I bought the X, in part, instead of a modern 'Lux 35 for the M because it gave me close focusing, the option of AF, and a whole nice camera behind it ... And the 'Lux 35 I wanted for the M was an older one for its unique rendering character. :-)

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    This is the backside ...



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    Quote Originally Posted by Godfrey View Post
    That's a little amusing in that I bought the X, in part, instead of a modern 'Lux 35 for the M because it gave me close focusing, the option of AF, and a whole nice camera behind it ... And the 'Lux 35 I wanted for the M was an older one for its unique rendering character. :-)

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    I can focus my RF faster then the X.. And I'm not really a 28 kinda guy. Closer focusing would have been welcome on a whole from the M-system.

    Wondering how it acts in real world use.. Curious particularly about the EVF/AF/IQ.. Although I'm sure that's what everyone else is curious about as well.

    Honestly though, the back of the camera looks good. Refreshing to see a somewhat familiar setup. Though that scroll wheel where the thumb indent is.. that will be hard to access.

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    BIG Question!

    If the new 'Q' is a fixed lens camera, then why do 'leaked' photos show two things of interest:

    1. A dot on the lens aligned to a dot on the body/mount (see here)

    2. knurling on the lens, close to the body (here)

    I can't see why either of these would be needed with a fixed lens camera. There is also a seam just after the knurling, but with another section of metal before the camera surface.

    Is this not looking suspiciously like an interchangeable camera?

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    Quote Originally Posted by turtle View Post
    BIG Question!

    If the new 'Q' is a fixed lens camera, then why do 'leaked' photos show two things of interest:

    1. A dot on the lens aligned to a dot on the body/mount (see here)

    2. knurling on the lens, close to the body (here)
    That looks like a normal/macro range selector ring ( similar to the RX1 )

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    The dot is for macro and normal settings (RX1's lens also has thissetting).

    It is a fixed lens cam.

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    Quote Originally Posted by aDam007 View Post
    Paratom - I didn't know there even was an RX2 rumour that said it would be significantly smaller. I just couldn't see giving up the M-system for something else Leica cooks up, unless it were the M-AF pipe dream I mentioned above.
    NOT RX2 but Leica x2. The camera based on the x1 (first dx.sized sensor compact camera). I still own and like it for its size, handling and IQ.

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    What a shame! I rather liked the idea of the 'slim M'.

    Quote Originally Posted by Vivek View Post
    The dot is for macro and normal settings (RX1's lens also has thissetting).

    It is a fixed lens cam.

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    I cannot make out what is written on the button between Delete and ISO? Also the VF looks like a panorama VF with that long slit and its outer shape.

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    Re: What to make of the new Leica slim M?

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    Quote Originally Posted by aDam007 View Post
    I can focus my RF faster then the X.. And I'm not really a 28 kinda guy. Closer focusing would have been welcome on a whole from the M-system.
    I can focus with an RF a bit faster than the X AF system in some circumstances, but the Face Detect feature is pretty hard to beat when you're shooting fast and loose in lowish light. It's a toss up.

    Close focusing with any RF has always been a serious limitation due to both RF accuracy and framing accuracy. The X (and M-P) TTL viewing with Live View is simply the right way to do that, as are SLR bodies.

    Quote Originally Posted by aDam007 View Post
    Wondering how it acts in real world use.. Curious particularly about the EVF/AF/IQ.. Although I'm sure that's what everyone else is curious about as well.

    Honestly though, the back of the camera looks good. Refreshing to see a somewhat familiar setup. Though that scroll wheel where the thumb indent is.. that will be hard to access.
    If it handles as nicely as the X, it will be delightful. I find the X an excellent camera ergonomically in almost all ways. The only minor niggle in handling that some aren't fond of is that location of the aperture ring—they'd prefer it to be around the lens like the M lenses—but I don't find that any problem at all (I don't tend to change aperture all that often that I need it to be on the lens).

    It took a little while to get my hands used to the thumbdial on both the X and the M-P; the placement was a tiny bit off for me when I first handled the cameras. But now it feels perfect: my thumb has gotten used to it. The most natural thumbwheel I use is the one on the E-M1, which is simply in the perfect position (even better than the E-1).

    The many nuances of camera design... I just wish they'd done this camera with a 50mm lens. Or maybe I don't ... I'm already booked to put out the money for the MM246 when it arrives, why increase the temptation? :-)

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    Thanks Brad, that's the one thing I could not make out as well.

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    Any hint how it would work? AF/MF, Various modes of shooting I guess. I am not well versed in automatic cameras.

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    Quote Originally Posted by algrove View Post
    Any hint how it would work? AF/MF, Various modes of shooting I guess. I am not well versed in automatic cameras.
    Like with many other modern cameras, there will likely be a menu item that allows you to assign one out of a set of possible functions to the button.

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    Re: What to make of the new Leica slim M?

    Based on the photos I've seen, the auto functions are controlled similar to the X-T1.

    To wit:
    Set the shutter dial to A + manual aperture = Aperture Priority mode
    Set the aperture ring to A + manual shutter speed = Shutter Priority mode
    Set both to A = Program mode
    Set both to anything but A = Manual mode

    PASM without a dedicated dial. No menus needed.

    There is a dedicated ISO button + jog wheel/dial on the back.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Vivek View Post
    China is not the best place to go for photography, especially the cities. Too much pollution to show anything beyond a few meters. Personally, I would pick some south american country.
    never been to china, or even stayed in china for a bit longer eh?

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    Re: What to make of the new Leica slim M?

    Quote Originally Posted by Godfrey View Post
    Like with many other modern cameras, there will likely be a menu item that allows you to assign one out of a set of possible functions to the button.

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    How about "I want to be a real M" button?
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    Re: What to make of the new Leica slim M?

    Agreed
    Love the X 113 controls.
    As close to an M as possible while being extremely light, having AF, etc.

    And I'm with you on the 50mm comment.
    Too bad this is coming out with a 28mm.
    But probably good for me as I've bought too much camera gear the last 18 months...!

    Quote Originally Posted by Godfrey View Post
    I can focus with an RF a bit faster than the X AF system in some circumstances, but the Face Detect feature is pretty hard to beat when you're shooting fast and loose in lowish light. It's a toss up.

    Close focusing with any RF has always been a serious limitation due to both RF accuracy and framing accuracy. The X (and M-P) TTL viewing with Live View is simply the right way to do that, as are SLR bodies.



    If it handles as nicely as the X, it will be delightful. I find the X an excellent camera ergonomically in almost all ways. The only minor niggle in handling that some aren't fond of is that location of the aperture ring—they'd prefer it to be around the lens like the M lenses—but I don't find that any problem at all (I don't tend to change aperture all that often that I need it to be on the lens).

    It took a little while to get my hands used to the thumbdial on both the X and the M-P; the placement was a tiny bit off for me when I first handled the cameras. But now it feels perfect: my thumb has gotten used to it. The most natural thumbwheel I use is the one on the E-M1, which is simply in the perfect position (even better than the E-1).

    The many nuances of camera design... I just wish they'd done this camera with a 50mm lens. Or maybe I don't ... I'm already booked to put out the money for the MM246 when it arrives, why increase the temptation? :-)

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    Has a macro function (like the RX1)... Where I originally thought maybe the lens could detach. Still looks like it was built for smooth MF.

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    Re: What to make of the new Leica slim M?

    I think this would have been slim without the lens.

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    Quote Originally Posted by etrigan63 View Post
    Based on the photos I've seen, the auto functions are controlled similar to the X-T1.

    To wit:
    Set the shutter dial to A + manual aperture = Aperture Priority mode
    Set the aperture ring to A + manual shutter speed = Shutter Priority mode
    Set both to A = Program mode
    Set both to anything but A = Manual mode

    PASM without a dedicated dial. No menus needed.

    There is a dedicated ISO button + jog wheel/dial on the back.
    Indeed ... Note that the first digital cameras I recall to use this scheme were the Leica Digilux 2/Panasonic LC1, then the Leica Digilux 3/Panasonic L1, all the X1/X2/X typ 113s, etc. Most of which pre-dated the Fuji X-T1 by a good number of years. ;-)

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    To celebrate the Q leaks, I'm going to carry my X today. ]'-)

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    Re: What to make of the new Leica slim M?

    Quote Originally Posted by Godfrey View Post
    Indeed ... Note that the first digital cameras I recall to use this scheme were the Leica Digilux 2/Panasonic LC1, then the Leica Digilux 3/Panasonic L1, all the X1/X2/X typ 113s, etc. Most of which pre-dated the Fuji X-T1 by a good number of years. ;-)

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    Never said X-T1 was first. As I have no experience with cameras you mentioned, I could not comment with authority on them. In their case, I bow to you Godfrey. On the other hand, as a former X-T1 owner, I can say with confidence that the X-T1 operates this way.
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    Re: What to make of the new Leica slim M?

    If the Leica Q sells well (in Leica terms of course), do you think history will repeat itself a la the RX1 --> Alpha 7 evolution?
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    Re: What to make of the new Leica slim M?

    Regardless of how the Q does, Leica should come out with an interchangeable version of it. They should clearly quote the declining M sales and make a case for a non mechanical mirrorless cam. Hopefully, such a camera will have a swivel LCD to make it more versatile.

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    Re: What to make of the new Leica slim M?

    Interestingly, the Q Type 116 appeared on the FB page of my pushers today, with price and all. Price is THB 155,800 including 7% VAT, which corresponds to USD 4,900 more or less.

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    Re: What to make of the new Leica slim M?

    Quote Originally Posted by Vivek View Post
    Regardless of how the Q does, Leica should come out with an interchangeable version of it. They should clearly quote the declining M sales and make a case for a non mechanical mirrorless cam. Hopefully, such a camera will have a swivel LCD to make it more versatile.
    I agree. Depending on how they pull it off, there will no doubt be a market for Leica M - Leica Q adapters that transmit the lens codes. Plus battery grips, leather cases (I like the Arte Di Mano ˝-case that covers M multifunction grip and I see that happening if Leica makes a Q-mount body with a pro grip). This has the potential to become their 35mm pro camera if they play their cards right.
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    I won't buy a fixed lens camera again. If this camera came with the 35mm FOV would be a better choice IMO. I've owned a fixed lens camera and it is possible for dust to find its way inside. When that happens you have no recourse but to send it off for repair.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Vivek View Post
    Regardless of how the Q does, Leica should come out with an interchangeable version of it. They should clearly quote the declining M sales and make a case for a non mechanical mirrorless cam. Hopefully, such a camera will have a swivel LCD to make it more versatile.
    I didn't think M sales were declining. I agree that a mirrorless with a M mount is a good idea but I am not at all sure Leica is ready to walk away from the optical rangefinder. It is something that distinguishes them from the competition. If they are going to try to compete solely on electronic features, they will end up abandoning the body business in favor selling their lense, which are the other distinguishing factor. So if there is a mirrorless M I think it will live alongside but not instead of the classic M rangefinders. The alternative is for Leica to construct a hybrid Optical/EVF system like Fuji did, but do it in Leica's way. I'd love to see that but it think it is wishful thinking in 2015.
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    Quote Originally Posted by weinschela View Post
    ...The alternative is for Leica to construct a hybrid Optical/EVF system like Fuji did, but do it in Leica's way. I'd love to see that but it think it is wishful thinking in 2015.
    I wonder what battery life would be like with the addition of an integrated EVF along with liveview?
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    OT, but have to answer this...Jono can shoot in Beijing if he likes.

    Just back from there..no smog, I could see in the far distance.

    Let's be accurate with our comments. There is a period when Beijing is smothered by smog. It was not the past and the beginning of this month.

    p.s. I suffer from COPD. I would know when there is smog.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Duane Pandorf View Post
    I wonder what battery life would be like with the addition of an integrated EVF along with liveview?
    Probably quite similar to what the current M typ 240 nets, given a similar battery capacity. I've not found any problem when I've fitted the EVF and gone shooting for an hour or two, using the EVF about 80% of the time—up to 300-400 exposures later, the battery isn't exhausted.

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    If the Leica Q sells well (in Leica terms of course), do you think history will repeat itself a la the RX1 --> Alpha 7 evolution?
    I do. Q w/fixed 28 --> Q w/interchangeable mount --> Q-series MF/AF lenses.
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    Quote Originally Posted by weinschela View Post
    I didn't think M sales were declining. I agree that a mirrorless with a M mount is a good idea but I am not at all sure Leica is ready to walk away from the optical rangefinder. It is something that distinguishes them from the competition. If they are going to try to compete solely on electronic features, they will end up abandoning the body business in favor selling their lense, which are the other distinguishing factor. So if there is a mirrorless M I think it will live alongside but not instead of the classic M rangefinders. The alternative is for Leica to construct a hybrid Optical/EVF system like Fuji did, but do it in Leica's way. I'd love to see that but it think it is wishful thinking in 2015.
    They don't have to abandon the digital M platform. They can treat it just as they do the film M platform. Still in production, but little in the way of re-design or improvements. Leica has the tooling and the R&D for the digital M well behind them. The Q is a necessary step if Leica expects to compete in the mirrorless space that threatens their camera business overall. Their challenge is to do it better than the Sony FE and Fuji X lines. They may just do so with the Q.

    All I can say is that I would much rather shoot a Q-series with a nice selection of fast, small Leica Q glass than Sony FE, Fuji X, or Oly (and I'm an X-user now), assuming fairly equivalent or better imaging performance. It seems to me the nearly ideal digital replacement for a Leica film M.
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    The Q is Quick at focusing.

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    Re: What to make of the new Leica slim M?

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    I do. Q w/fixed 28 --> Q w/interchangeable mount --> Q-series MF/AF lenses.
    I agree.

    The Bauhaus School of Design that Leica employs gives the Q a look that is unmatched by other cameras of this form-factor. It will be quite the hit considering how good the images are. Moving to a Q-mount version seems like a natural progression and allows them the opportunity to sell to more "seasoned" photographers as a primary camera instead of a backup/walkabout camera. Mirrorless means they can have zooms again (as evidenced by the T).

    It will be hard pressed to beat the Sony A7rII which is hitting all of the key points that pros want (OK, neither of them have dual slots. Don't go there.)
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    Re: What to make of the new Leica slim M?

    Quote Originally Posted by etrigan63 View Post
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    Mirrorless means they can have zooms again (as evidenced by the T).
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    Well ... any rangerfinder is mirrorless by definition I do see things similar, though. The Q can be the start of a full frame lens line up with even closer distance to the sensor allowing M lenses to be adapted. A good moment in time to update the bayonet.

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    Re: What to make of the new Leica slim M?

    Quote Originally Posted by etrigan63 View Post
    I agree.

    The Bauhaus School of Design that Leica employs gives the Q a look that is unmatched by other cameras of this form-factor. It will be quite the hit considering how good the images are. Moving to a Q-mount version seems like a natural progression and allows them the opportunity to sell to more "seasoned" photographers as a primary camera instead of a backup/walkabout camera. Mirrorless means they can have zooms again (as evidenced by the T).

    It will be hard pressed to beat the Sony A7rII which is hitting all of the key points that pros want (OK, neither of them have dual slots. Don't go there.)
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    Re: What to make of the new Leica slim M?

    Quote Originally Posted by etrigan63 View Post
    I agree.

    The Bauhaus School of Design that Leica employs gives the Q a look that is unmatched by other cameras of this form-factor. It will be quite the hit considering how good the images are. Moving to a Q-mount version seems like a natural progression and allows them the opportunity to sell to more "seasoned" photographers as a primary camera instead of a backup/walkabout camera. Mirrorless means they can have zooms again (as evidenced by the T).

    It will be hard pressed to beat the Sony A7rII which is hitting all of the key points that pros want (OK, neither of them have dual slots. Don't go there.)
    This might be desirable from some users' standpoint (including you and me), but Leica has to give some thought to brand strategy.
    T mount was just released, presumably to fill the purpose you outline for a Q mount.
    Another Leica mount would confuse the market, and possibly cannibalize the M market, which I would guess is a no-no for any Leica decision maker.
    So my guess is this won't happen until the M market is perceived to be threatened. Currently that's not really the case.
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