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    Talking First Leica Q photos up on Leicas Blog!

    They look absolutely brilliant. Count me in...

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    Re: First Leica Q photos up on Leicas Blog!

    Well, I must say after reading the specs and seeing images of the unit, Leica got this one right.
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    Re: First Leica Q photos up on Leicas Blog!

    Lets say someone allready owns a Leica M - would there be any reason to buy the Q instead of a 28/2.8 for the M?
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    Re: First Leica Q photos up on Leicas Blog!

    Quote Originally Posted by Paratom View Post
    Lets say someone allready owns a Leica M - would there be any reason to buy the Q instead of a 28/2.8 for the M?
    Aside from the fact that you're comparing an f/1.7 lens vs an f/2.8 lens...
    For similar reasons as to why I purchased a Leica X typ 113 over buying a Summilux-M 35mm f/1.4 FLE:

    - I wanted an older 'Lux 35 for the M due to its specific imaging qualities, but I also value the modern lenses as well.
    - It's less expensive and produces very similar quality images.
    - The X supports much closer focusing, autofocus when that's useful/convenient, and Program/Aperture/Shutter priority AE when that's convenient.
    - Overall, if I'm just wanting to use the one lens, the X is a smaller, lighter camera to carry.

    Buying both the X and a 'Lux 35 v2 netted me the best of both worlds.

    I consider the M-P a wonderful camera with the versatility of interchangeable lenses as a big part of its appeal. But there are many occasions when a fixed lens camera of similar quality and performance, and with more automation features, is very useful to me.

    I'd probably be poorer today if the Q shipped with a 50mm f/2 lens. Whew, escaped that one! I need that money for the MM246... =8^O

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    Bye-bye Leica M and 28 cron asph, Hello Leica Q. Mine is already on order and trade in arranged. What with this and the Sony A7II with the FE55 I can cover nearly all my work. Brilliant

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    Re: First Leica Q photos up on Leicas Blog!

    Read Jono's writeup, looked at Ming's photos... if only I had the money.

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    Re: First Leica Q photos up on Leicas Blog!

    it seems it is using a sony sensor, i wonder why they did not use these sensors for the m and also the new s .

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    Wink Re: First Leica Q photos up on Leicas Blog!

    I have placed my pre-order after seeing photos from Leica's blog, Jono's, and Steve Huff's. I think Leica is finally on the right track and even the ISO seems better than what we usual expect from Leica camears but maybe that is just my excitement talking?

    Jono: I'm curious about how loud the shutter when its not in electronic mode? Also, how good the optical image stabilization is as well? Any guesses to how many stops it can stabilize? Any comments on the behavior? Thanks!

    Unfortunately, there will be at least a temporary influx of 28mm Summicron and maybe 28 elmarit M lenses on eBay now. I was hoping my 28mm would pay for 70% of the camera or so.

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    Re: First Leica Q photos up on Leicas Blog!

    Quote Originally Posted by msadat View Post
    it seems it is using a sony sensor, i wonder why they did not use these sensors for the m and also the new s .
    If that is true..I hope it does not delay or axe the RX2!

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    Re: First Leica Q photos up on Leicas Blog!

    my guess is sony is moving up to higher res sensors for most anything.

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    you can get a sony a7 with the newly released 28/2 for about 1.5k and not a bad set up it is.

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    Re: First Leica Q photos up on Leicas Blog!

    From Jono's front page report:
    It has hardware based image stabilisation and a full frame 24mp CMOS sensor designed and built exclusively for Leica which was not made by either CMOSIS or by Sony, (at the moment they are not releasing who actually made it) .

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    Re: First Leica Q photos up on Leicas Blog!

    Great! That is good news!

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    Re: First Leica Q photos up on Leicas Blog!

    Quote Originally Posted by msadat View Post
    it seems it is using a sony sensor, i wonder why they did not use these sensors for the m and also the new s .
    Hi There
    Not a Sony sensor - or a CMOSIS Sensor

    animefx - the shutter is a leaf shutter and is really quiet in normal mode (effectively unnoticeable).

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    Re: First Leica Q photos up on Leicas Blog!

    I am in for this one...do I sense a future sensor for the coming M360 or what have you (ahem, oh say an ILC version of this camera)?

    Needless to say, I am definitely going to spring for this camera, which checks off many boxes!

    Jono, can the digital crop work for RAW images?
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    I hadn't heard consistently about IS, so it's nice to know that Jono reports it.
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    Re: First Leica Q photos up on Leicas Blog!

    There's a new camera announced today and I want it. Not the Q.

    A7R-II.
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    Re: First Leica Q photos up on Leicas Blog!

    thats what nikons says too, its not a sony but then it is

    Quote Originally Posted by jonoslack View Post
    Hi There
    Not a Sony sensor - or a CMOSIS Sensor

    animefx - the shutter is a leaf shutter and is really quiet in normal mode (effectively unnoticeable).

    all the best

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    Quote Originally Posted by bradhusick View Post
    There's a new camera announced today and I want it. Not the Q.

    A7R-II.
    Talk about disruptive technologies...
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    Well done Leica.

    When will a converter or a sibling 50mm Q be available? I am pretty sure it is in the works.

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    Quote Originally Posted by bradhusick View Post
    There's a new camera announced today and I want it. Not the Q.

    A7R-II.
    Wake us when it can make 28mm images at this level.

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    Quote Originally Posted by msadat View Post
    it seems it is using a sony sensor, i wonder why they did not use these sensors for the m and also the new s .
    Whether it is actually using a Sony sensor or not I don't know, but if it is, it's likely because of the customized microlenses on the CMOSIS sensor for use with RF interchangeable lenses. The Q (and X) have a new lens designed for the digital sensor.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ashwinrao1 View Post
    Jono, can the digital crop work for RAW images?
    Ashwin,
    From Jono's writeup, it looks like you get the entire 28mm coverage in RAW, but when using 35mm crop mode, it applies a crop that Lightroom can read. You may readjust the crop in Lightroom as is normally done in that software. This is a very well implemented feature.

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    Re: First Leica Q photos up on Leicas Blog!

    Leaf shutter? If that's part of the lens, then making an interchangeable version that can accept M lenses would be problematic.

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    Quote Originally Posted by uhoh7 View Post
    Wake us when it can make 28mm images at this level.
    The A7RII with the new Zeiss 25/2 will comfortable match (likely exceed when cropped to 28mm) the performance of the Q, and offers the ability to crop to 40mm while maintaining 24mp resolution.

    And with 5-axis IBIS, silent shutter, internal 4K, improved ISO and the ability to change lenses, I fail to see why you would drop the sort of coin Leica is asking for a limiting, fixed lens camera.

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    Re: First Leica Q photos up on Leicas Blog!

    It will also be a fair amount larger, drain through batteries crazy, and I doubt the focus is as quick as the Q.

    Having said all that, I'm sure it will be a great camera. Thats quite an insane ISO especially for the megapixels. I had an A7 II briefly and liked it but the color isn't as good as what I'm seeing from the Q already, I doubt the A7R II will be much different.

    Quote Originally Posted by lambert View Post
    The A7RII with the new Zeiss 25/2 will comfortable match (likely exceed when cropped to 28mm) the performance of the Q, and offers the ability to crop to 40mm while maintaining 24mp resolution.

    And with 5-axis IBIS, silent shutter, internal 4K, improved ISO and the ability to change lenses, I fail to see why you would drop the sort of coin Leica is asking for a limiting, fixed lens camera.

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    Quote Originally Posted by lambert View Post
    The A7RII with the new Zeiss 25/2 will comfortable match (likely exceed when cropped to 28mm) the performance of the Q, and offers the ability to crop to 40mm while maintaining 24mp resolution.

    And with 5-axis IBIS, silent shutter, internal 4K, improved ISO and the ability to change lenses, I fail to see why you would drop the sort of coin Leica is asking for a limiting, fixed lens camera.
    Possibly because it's not a sony science project in varying degrees of completion?

    I say that after 200K clicks on A7 bodies.

    You predict the performance of the 25/2 with..... Batis-Breath LOL I don't doubt it will be the best 28ish option for the quirky thick sensor stack of the sony, but even a properly centered copy I'll wager won't hold a candle to the Q.

    We will see

    Well it does seem there is reason to hope the R2 will be a bit better with the real lenses:
    Sony First on market with Full-Frame BSI Sensor. | Leica Place - Leica User Group
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    Re: First Leica Q photos up on Leicas Blog!

    I agree with Michael Reichmann: "If I was heavily involved in wide-angle street shooting and had a spare $5K, I’d be all over my local dealer to put me at the front of the queue (Q?) for the Q. But I am not, and don’t."

    At 28mm this is virtually useless for portraits so I will pass. Please Leica, make a 50 lux version.
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    An interesting fact is that the Q isn't terribly much more expensive than the R1 was when launched if you added a viewfinder to the Sony, and this a Leica after all.

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    even with all the leica fans (me included) leica prices will be questioned when there are so many high end options like the rx1/2 sony a7ii sony a7rii are available at better price point.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jorgen Udvang View Post
    An interesting fact is that the Q isn't terribly much more expensive than the R1 was when launched if you added a viewfinder to the Sony, and this a Leica after all.
    The RX1 was a pioneer but sales have flagged since Sony released FF bodies with interchangeable lenses. Perhaps Leica commenced on the Q project way back then ... but nowadays there's lukewarm interest in expensive, fixed lens cameras.

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    Quote Originally Posted by uhoh7 View Post
    Possibly because it's not a sony science project in varying degrees of completion?

    I say that after 200K clicks on A7 bodies.

    You predict the performance of the 25/2 with..... Batis-Breath LOL I don't doubt it will be the best 28ish option for the quirky thick sensor stack of the sony, but even a properly centered copy I'll wager won't hold a candle to the Q.

    We will see

    Well it does seem there is reason to hope the R2 will be a bit better with the real lenses:
    Sony First on market with Full-Frame BSI Sensor. | Leica Place - Leica User Group
    Lloyd Chambers has tested every Leica wide in the stable (with the possible exception of the recent 28 LUX). On the Batis:

    "The Zeiss Batis lenses deliver first class results in the field. I’m really enjoying them, and dang is the 85/1.8 razor sharp. And the Batis 25mm f/2 may have no peer in the 24/25mm range (it’s feeling that way in the image quality it’s delivering)."

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    Without wishing to be an *ss, I suspect that with a 25mm Batis attached, it will be far, far above that level. Larger, heavier and a different beast, but most likely in another league from a pure technical image quality point of view. From a utility point of view, they bear no relation of course.

    From pure optics point of view, I also recall Ming Thein regarding the Ricoh GR lens as having the best performance at and beyond its admittedly slower max aperture than either the RX1 or Q, so I think it is hugely premature to leap from the rafters crowing about the Q having 'peerless 28mm performance'... Without doubt, its a great overall package if fast 28mm is your bag, but it does have compromises (including non-class leading performance at the edge of the frame, according to Sean Reid, where the central performance has been prioritised).

    Quote Originally Posted by uhoh7 View Post
    Wake us when it can make 28mm images at this level.

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    Lloyd Chambers may be right. But his criteria may not suit everyone's taste.

    From the samples I've seen thus far, I wasn't 100% convinced of the Q. But after my favourite reviewer posted some good images while I was sleeping, I'm a little more convinced that Leica did something right with the optics this morning. (And by good, I mean good for me to review, because he shoots the camera as I'd shoot the camera.)

    It all hinges on the AF capabilities now. If this camera's AF is better then the A7 by a noticeable margin. Especially in back lit situations or situations where the typical mirrorless AF can easily get tricked (and I know what to look out for after owning all the A7 series cameras)... Then I will have to take another really serious look at the images it produces.

    Simply put, Leica did EVERYTHING they could this time to produce a seriously competitive and technologically advanced product. So as someone who constantly bitches that they want Leica to do better, I should shell out money in support of a camera that in fact has done better then the competition. It's only right to pat them on the back for their achievements. Let's just hope the camera doesn't have major flaws, because servicing anything at Leica is always a long painful process.

    Let's see how fast Sony responds (A7rii was a bit of a dick move, but it's not apples to apples)... The RX2 will have to be shockingly good, and will have to vastly improve upon the shortcomings of the RX1 before I'd consider giving up something so ergonomically pleasing like the Leica Q. And as far as rendering is concern, the RX1 is nice, no doubt. So lets hope the masses feel the same way about the Q.

    Look at the end of the day, AF is everything.. If it doesn't work, then I'd sooner just buy a Summilux 28 at the price point of the Q... And for the fact that I have several M240/M-P bodies, it might make more sense. Though the 28FL is something I'm trying to move away from.. Leica you temptress

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    For the first time, I am excited about the RX. The RX100 iv. Absolutely, a pocketable tech marvel. I have to have it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by aDam007 View Post
    Let's see how fast Sony responds (A7rii was a bit of a dick move, but it's not apples to apples)... The RX2 will have to be shockingly good, and will have to vastly improve upon the shortcomings of the RX1 before I'd consider giving up something so ergonomically pleasing like the Leica Q. And as far as rendering is concern, the RX1 is nice, no doubt. So lets hope the masses feel the same way about the Q.
    The RX2 is rumoured to have a curved sensor which means a smaller lens (and therefore a more compact camera) as well as even performance across the frame from widest apertures. The 28mm on the Leica Q, like most Leica wides, has field curvature and needs to be stopped down to f5.6 to achieve even performance across the frame.

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    Quote Originally Posted by lambert View Post
    The A7RII with the new Zeiss 25/2 will comfortable match (likely exceed when cropped to 28mm) the performance of the Q, and offers the ability to crop to 40mm while maintaining 24mp resolution.

    And with 5-axis IBIS, silent shutter, internal 4K, improved ISO and the ability to change lenses, I fail to see why you would drop the sort of coin Leica is asking for a limiting, fixed lens camera.
    840 gram plus at least two spare batteries. Not the right tool for quickly switching from AF to zone focusing, change settings before the cam is on and up to the eye .... Completely different beasts. My GAS attack tells me to get both.

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    Sorry if this has already been mentioned but reidreviews also has a good comparison of the Q with the RX-1, lots of photos to compare and appreciate the strengths of each.

    28mm, isn't my thing, but i had a lot of fun with an RX-1 and i'm sure this will make users of AF 35mm fixed lens cameras very happy!

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    I also would prefer a 35mm fov Version. pretty much a matter of taste.

    I am quite happy Leica is introducing such a fast AF and IS. I assume that means they are able to include this Kind of Speed too in other cameras.

    I hope they will not give up the T System. IMO it is a very good compromice between IQ and size/weight/Price. They could offer 2 different bodies: One Touchscreen Version and a more classic user Interface Version. Include IS, a Little faster AF and Response times.
    IMO the T lenses are too good to give up that System just based on the fact that the first T Body was not that succesfull.

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