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    The SL is the sexiest camera Leica have ever made.

    OK -I putting it out there...I'm going on a limb...I know I'm going to get smashed in hr for saying this...

    BUT

    I don't care...

    The SL - just judging by the photos I've seen is now officially the stand out most beautiful camera Leica have ever designed- I want it because it looks fantastic- I'm looking at ICONIC design...

    I loved the R8/9 when it came out - it looked and handles so much better than other SLRS...
    I love the M series in hand

    but check this SL out - it is an S2 in user friendly size and it looks so damn hot and sexy...

    Tell me I wrong - I dare you!
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    Re: The SL is the sexiest camera Leica have ever made.

    Quote Originally Posted by PeterA View Post
    OK -I putting it out there...I'm going on a limb...I know I'm going to get smashed in hr for saying this...

    BUT

    I don't care...

    The SL - just judging by the photos I've seen is now officially the stand out most beautiful camera Leica have ever designed- I want it because it looks fantastic- I'm looking at ICONIC design...

    I loved the R8/9 when it came out - it looked and handles so much better than other SLRS...
    I love the M series in hand

    but check this SL out - it is an S2 in user friendly size and it looks so damn hot and sexy...

    Tell me I wrong - I dare you!
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    Re: The SL is the sexiest camera Leica have ever made.

    If you like it, that's all that matters. Personally, I find it fairly ugly from the front, but better from the top and behind. I think the R8/9, M cameras and S look great, however.


    Quote Originally Posted by PeterA View Post
    OK -I putting it out there...I'm going on a limb...I know I'm going to get smashed in hr for saying this...

    BUT

    I don't care...

    The SL - just judging by the photos I've seen is now officially the stand out most beautiful camera Leica have ever designed- I want it because it looks fantastic- I'm looking at ICONIC design...

    I loved the R8/9 when it came out - it looked and handles so much better than other SLRS...
    I love the M series in hand

    but check this SL out - it is an S2 in user friendly size and it looks so damn hot and sexy...

    Tell me I wrong - I dare you!

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    Re: The SL is the sexiest camera Leica have ever made.

    Maybe not sexi-est to my eye, but it sure is right up there on my scale of sexiness.

    Cool thread idea, in the spirit of fun and frolic, which tone is often missing when discussing gear, esp Leica.
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    Re: The SL is the sexiest camera Leica have ever made.

    Can a camera look sexy?
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    Re: The SL is the sexiest camera Leica have ever made.

    For me it looks like a mixture between S and Q.
    If we only discuss how a camera looks like I would prefer the T, more straight forward IMO.
    But I do like the SL design as well. Sexy? Mmmh..

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    Re: The SL is the sexiest camera Leica have ever made.

    I do not want to smash anybody here, but for me the S looks much, Much, MUCH sexier. A mirrorless mini S would have been much preferably by me, but what does my opinion count
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    Re: The SL is the sexiest camera Leica have ever made.

    I'll pitch in. I like its brutality, but then I am a fan of jeeps and trucks. To me it looks like a T with stuff welded on where it was needed. Did you realize that the little raised part on the left top is the GPS antenna? Just like the ones on top of airplanes.

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    Re: The SL is the sexiest camera Leica have ever made.

    It looks modern, neo-Bauhaus, sleek, and technical. Minimalist, no unnecessary perturbations, and clean. Sexy ... Hmm, I don't know. I'm never quite sure how to assign sexiness to a thing. But desirable ... Yes, to my eye.

    The Leicaflex SL and R8/R9 carry a similar aesthetic to my eye. Certainly the modern Leica S as well.

    The M cameras have a different kind of attractiveness to me. There's something a little more "old world" about their appeal, a little more gemütlichkeit, more akin to the look of a Rolleiflex TLR or Hasselblad V system, even the older Linhof Technicas. A Nikon F has some of the same "old world" look too. The latest M typ 240/246 have a little more of the smooth neo-Bauhaus appeal, particularly the M Edition 60, but they're still in that different class.

    Thanks for starting this thread. It's interesting to look at these cameras as purely art design objects for a little bit. We get a bit over-the-top on specs, features, and function these days. :-)

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    Re: The SL is the sexiest camera Leica have ever made.

    I always thought the M looked sexy, but with so many retro take offs of it by others, it's not as much as before. Actually I take that back, whenever I have someone's M in my hand, it looks very desirable.

    I have the S, never thought it was sexy, just a solid tool and I appreciated that it was created digital from the ground up, yet the curves were more Canon than Leica. Yet the Canon D1 was sexy in it's time.

    The T is a bit sexy.

    Regarding the SL I wouldn't have thought that it was sexy, but I haven't held one, and I get fooled looking at just pictures ( of cameras, cars, even people )

    I appreciate your starting this thread. I guess my definition of sexy would be "looks desirable" regardless of use, specifications, price or function?

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    Re: The SL is the sexiest camera Leica have ever made.

    Sexy? No.

    Has the makings of a potential classic that we could see in a design exhibit someday? Yes.
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    Re: The SL is the sexiest camera Leica have ever made.

    Clearly you need to get out more.

    On a more serious note - R9 is arguably an epic industrial design. In my opinion, from a design innovation perspective nothing else from Leica comes near it. SL seems to be more of a utilitarian design - nothing wrong with that but it won't win any design contests. Just my opinion.
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    Re: The SL is the sexiest camera Leica have ever made.

    Quote Originally Posted by scott kirkpatrick View Post
    ....I like its brutality, but then I am a fan of jeeps and trucks....

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    Yes, sexy in the way of Brienne of Tarth on Game of Thrones. But uncharacteristically inelegant for a Leica.
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    Re: The SL is the sexiest camera Leica have ever made.

    Frankly, the SL looks a whole lot like an A7II with a red dot and brings to mind this little story by Simon Garfield in Esquire Magazine:

    "The cult of Leica takes many different forms, but it may be best defined by one anecdote. An absurd story you may safely try at home. A couple of years ago, a man on an online forum was pondering what really made Leica, Leica? Why was the brand so indestructible and perennially appealing? Why would normally sensible people pay much more for a Leica than another camera capable of achieving comparable results? One can argue endlessly about the quality of the lenses, and about the solidity of manufacture, but the forum guy believed there was another factor: the red dot logo. He took this theory onto the streets. He put a red paper sticker on his digital Panasonic Lumix (which uses Leica lenses, and is, give or take a bit of lens coating, practically a Leica without the badge), and started taking photos.

    He felt bolder. He felt more able to edge himself into situations from which he previously would have shrunk. When he reviewed his pictures later, he found them to be better than those he had taken before. All of which doesn’t say much for Leica cameras, but says rather a lot about their image. The tiny red dot enclosing the word “Leica” in flowery script is the smallest piece of successful branding in the history of photography. It may also be the most alluring piece of miniature branding in the history of luxury consumerism – some logos on watches are larger. Surprisingly, its presence on cameras is relatively new, and dates only from the mid-Eighties (for a decade before, the name within the dot read “Leitz”, the name of the parent company). When I recently mentioned the forum guy’s red dot story to Stefan Daniel, Leica’s head of product development, he said, "Maybe we should just sell red dots.""

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    Re: The SL is the sexiest camera Leica have ever made.

    Sony have found its greatest champion!

    You are doing a heck of a job!

    Keep it up!

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    Re: The SL is the sexiest camera Leica have ever made.

    Quote Originally Posted by lambert View Post
    Frankly, the SL looks a whole lot like an A7II with a red dot and brings to mind this little story by Simon Garfield in Esquire Magazine:

    "The cult of Leica takes many different forms, but it may be best defined by one anecdote. An absurd story you may safely try at home. A couple of years ago, a man on an online forum was pondering what really made Leica, Leica? Why was the brand so indestructible and perennially appealing? Why would normally sensible people pay much more for a Leica than another camera capable of achieving comparable results? One can argue endlessly about the quality of the lenses, and about the solidity of manufacture, but the forum guy believed there was another factor: the red dot logo. He took this theory onto the streets. He put a red paper sticker on his digital Panasonic Lumix (which uses Leica lenses, and is, give or take a bit of lens coating, practically a Leica without the badge), and started taking photos.

    He felt bolder. He felt more able to edge himself into situations from which he previously would have shrunk. When he reviewed his pictures later, he found them to be better than those he had taken before. All of which doesn’t say much for Leica cameras, but says rather a lot about their image. The tiny red dot enclosing the word “Leica” in flowery script is the smallest piece of successful branding in the history of photography. It may also be the most alluring piece of miniature branding in the history of luxury consumerism – some logos on watches are larger. Surprisingly, its presence on cameras is relatively new, and dates only from the mid-Eighties (for a decade before, the name within the dot read “Leitz”, the name of the parent company). When I recently mentioned the forum guy’s red dot story to Stefan Daniel, Leica’s head of product development, he said, "Maybe we should just sell red dots.""
    If a red dot can turn me into a better photographer, even if it's because it gives me the "confidence" to be bolder, put me down for three please!
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    Re: The SL is the sexiest camera Leica have ever made.

    Here is the link to the homepage of the designer Manfred Meinzer. meinzer-design.com

    He was also responsible for R9 and S.
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    Re: The SL is the sexiest camera Leica have ever made.

    Quote Originally Posted by Lars Vinberg View Post
    Peter - in all honesty you asked for people's subjective opinion and you got it. Why get upset?
    What are you talking about?

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    Re: The SL is the sexiest camera Leica have ever made.

    Quote Originally Posted by PeterA View Post
    I like to buy beautiful things - if forced to use something whose design aesthetic is less than beautiful - I feel cheated and abused.
    I see an SL Edition Hermes in your future

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    Re: The SL is the sexiest camera Leica have ever made.

    Quote Originally Posted by DucatiTerminator View Post
    If a red dot can turn me into a better photographer, even if it's because it gives me the "confidence" to be bolder, put me down for three please!
    Here you go:

    http://www.ebay.com.au/itm/1x-Leica-...Xep9g7yzzLH69w

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    Quote Originally Posted by lambert View Post
    Perfect! My pics suck, will they make me a better photographer?
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    Re: The SL is the sexiest camera Leica have ever made.

    This thread is totally out of hand.
    Some folks like red wine, some white. I like all wine as long as it is not that bad.
    If we cannot have a discussion that is civil without name calling we will not have a discussion.
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    Quote Originally Posted by PeterA View Post
    OK I know I'm going to get smashed in hr for saying this...
    Peter,

    GETDPI is but a shadow of its previous self ... so many new new folks who
    do not have sense of what made this the best site on the web for gentile,
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    And they reflect what seems to be a general coarsening of discourse in society
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    Me....give me a Sinar M, Alpa TC, Linhoff 617s II, or a Mamiya 6 or 7 ... simple lenses
    minimal fluff....

    But I get it and it will be a great addition to your S camera.

    Doubt that anyone gave Vivian Maier a second glance ... and then her negatives
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    Any camera that is loved understood and wielded with great skill is an objet de desire.

    And I know that you will find its right place or will supplant it with something yet more
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    Re: The SL is the sexiest camera Leica have ever made.

    Besides great optical qualities, Leica has always made cameras that are simplistic in their design and functionality. Some people, myself included, find that a very attractive feature. Sexy? Yes, why not?

    However, since taste vary, simplification snobs like myself will often be seen upon with suspicion by those who have a different view or taste. I have taken it a bit further: I don't even need to own a Leica, and never have, to enjoy the genius of the design and functionality of the cameras. For me, it's the unobtainable dream, and maybe it's best that way. Encountering the divine in real life doesn't always live up to ones imagination.

    So I stay with my ugly Nikons, and the images I make with those are probably just as good or bad as those that I would have taken with the übercamera.
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    Re: The SL is the sexiest camera Leica have ever made.

    Not to be sexist or anything but doesn't "SL" stand for " Sexy Lady"?

    To be fair though I believe a companion camera will be released next year designated "SM"! . Of course it will be the lesser of the two cameras with only 16MP. At least thats what all the woman photographers I know told me....LOL.

    I always felt the R8/R9 was aesthetically a form follow function body and its lines were extremely attractive. The S body is somewhat similar. I don't though find thr same pleasing lines in the SL. Different yes, but not what I would say unusually attractive.

    As they say beauty is in the eye of thr beholder.

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    Re: The SL is the sexiest camera Leica have ever made.

    Quote Originally Posted by Jorgen Udvang View Post
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    So I stay with my ugly Nikons, and the images I make with those are probably just as good or bad as those that I would have taken with the übercamera.
    Aw, come'on Jorgen. My F is sniffling now. ]'-)

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    Quote Originally Posted by Godfrey View Post
    Aw, come'on Jorgen. My F is sniffling now. ]'-)

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    Ah... but there are some pretty Nikons around too, Godfrey; The F6, the F3 and earlier, the F6, the D2X... did I mention the F6?
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    Re: The SL is the sexiest camera Leica have ever made.

    Bob, in all seriousness you are so right. Beauty is skin deep and the cameras throughout the years that made the most indelible mark on my enjoyment and creativity, were those that I made a connection with. In film bodies it was generally the way they handled and sort of disappeared in use. With digital it was that and more amd the look of the resulting files plays an equally important role.

    So many variables and like a fine wine or ones partner in life, we all look and view things differently.

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    Re: The SL is the sexiest camera Leica have ever made.

    Quote Originally Posted by Jorgen Udvang View Post
    Ah... but there are some pretty Nikons around too, Godfrey; The F6, the F3 and earlier, the F6, the D2X... did I mention the F6?
    F5 and F6 are my Nikon favorites from a design perspective, Pininfarina did a great job there. Nowadays they are... less pretty.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Lars Vinberg View Post
    F5 and F6 are my Nikon favorites from a design perspective, Pininfarina did a great job there. Nowadays they are... less pretty.
    F2AS (Black) was my favorite. I later "settled" for the F3HP (after saving for 4 years, lol) because I couldn't afford the F2 as a 12-year old.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jorgen Udvang View Post
    Ah... but there are some pretty Nikons around too, Godfrey; The F6, the F3 and earlier, the F6, the D2X... did I mention the F6?
    Yes, you did mention the F6 ... But I have to make the F feel better and do a beauty shot or two of it tomorrow. :-)

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lars Vinberg View Post
    F5 and F6 are my Nikon favorites from a design perspective, Pininfarina did a great job there. Nowadays they are... less pretty.
    The F4 and F5 didn't appeal to me so much from a design perspective, but the F6 is simply outstanding in every particular. It is only in the context of how nice the F6 is that the D750 seems a little disappointing, despite how good a camera it is by itself.

    The R8/R9, on the other hand, are so near to perfect when it comes to ergonomics and viewfinder quality that they are at the top of my film SLR list. And to think that I was able to get a nearly unused R8 body for less than $200 last year—it was almost theft.

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    Re: The SL is the sexiest camera Leica have ever made.

    Quote Originally Posted by Lars Vinberg View Post
    F5 and F6 are my Nikon favorites from a design perspective, Pininfarina did a great job there. Nowadays they are... less pretty.
    Giugiaro... it's Giorgetto Giugiaro and his team at Italdesign who design the Nikon SLR cameras, or at least the top models, since the F3.

    Here's a more recent Nikon camera from Italdesign:

    http://www.italdesign.it/en/projects/nikon-d4-eng/

    ... and some of his other work:

    http://www.italdesign.it/en/projects/

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    Re: The SL is the sexiest camera Leica have ever made.

    Quote Originally Posted by Jorgen Udvang View Post
    Giugiaro... it's Giorgetto Giugiaro and his team at Italdesign who design the Nikon SLR cameras, or at least the top models, since the F3.

    Here's a more recent Nikon camera from Italdesign:

    http://www.italdesign.it/en/projects/nikon-d4-eng/

    ... and some of his other work:

    http://www.italdesign.it/en/projects/
    Right... a bit of a brain salad there. Thanks for correcting me.
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    Re: The SL is the sexiest camera Leica have ever made.

    Looking at the pictures of the voluptuous, overdesigned F4, F5 and F6 makes me long for my old F (but not the FTN), loaned long ago and now lost.

    scott

    P.S> C'mon Godfrey, do it right and post a picture of a well-loved Nikon F.

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    Re: The SL is the sexiest camera Leica have ever made.

    Back to the topic of the OP. If the SL is sexy, then the Sony A7 series cameras must also be sexy since front on they look about the same except for obvious company markings/logos.
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    Quote Originally Posted by scott kirkpatrick View Post
    Looking at the pictures of the voluptuous, overdesigned F4, F5 and F6 makes me long for my old F (but not the FTN)....
    ...and their little brother (or sister, if you prefer) Nikkormat, simple lines and solid built.
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    Re: The SL is the sexiest camera Leica have ever made.

    Quote Originally Posted by algrove View Post
    Back to the topic of the OP. If the SL is sexy, then the Sony A7 series cameras must also be sexy since front on they look about the same except for obvious company markings/logos.
    I've heard the Sony described as a toy

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    Re: The SL is the sexiest camera Leica have ever made.

    The SL doesn't seem sexy to me. But, with its heft, I bet it could drive nails well

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    Re: The SL is the sexiest camera Leica have ever made.

    Quote Originally Posted by Brian Mosley View Post
    I've heard the Sony described as a toy
    Oh, come one... the Sony is black too
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    Re: The SL is the sexiest camera Leica have ever made.

    You all need to go to the beach on a hot summer day. Than if you say this is still sexy I'm sending a white padded truck for ya. Lol

    You all lost it. ROTFLMAO
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    Re: The SL is the sexiest camera Leica have ever made.

    Quote Originally Posted by Guy Mancuso View Post
    You all need to go to the beach on a hot summer day. Than if you say this is still sexy I'm sending a white padded truck for ya. Lol

    You all lost it. ROTFLMAO
    I live 30 minutes from the beaches here in SoCal and it's been 80-90+˚ for the past few weeks. This thread is a nice variation
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    Re: The SL is the sexiest camera Leica have ever made.

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    Oh, come one... the Sony is black too
    Do they do a bright purple one too?

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    Re: The SL is the sexiest camera Leica have ever made.

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    Do they do a bright purple one too?
    Wait long enough and anything is possible like perhaps a Lenny Kravitz SL. I wonder if they saw off the EVF for that model so it looks more like a Leica instead of a Sony?

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    Re: The SL is the sexiest camera Leica have ever made.

    Quote Originally Posted by lambert View Post
    Frankly, the SL looks a whole lot like an A7II with a red dot and brings to mind this little story by Simon Garfield in Esquire Magazine:

    "THe felt bolder. He felt more able to edge himself into situations from which he previously would have shrunk. When he reviewed his pictures later, he found them to be better than those he had taken before.
    Sounds to me like Simon Garfield had written his story before he tried out the camera

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    Re: The SL is the sexiest camera Leica have ever made.

    Bauhaus industrial chic
    I think it looks pretty good, but I also think all these designs take a while to sink in.
    At least it isn't boring . . . . and it doesn't look much like an A7 if you sit them next to each other.

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    Not young, not sexy, but soulful and still making photos after 55 years...

    I promised it a beauty shoot ...












    all: Olympus E-M1 + Macro-Elmarit-DG 45mm f/2.8 ASPH OIS


    Love the old beast. The selenium cell has finally died, it's time to send it off to Los Angeles to be overhauled.

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