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    Re: Woohooo M8 firmware update!

    Just updated here too. Went fine and now my M8.1 w/modified (quieter) shutter sounds and operates just like the M8.2 Really glad I did the new shutter upgrade, and REALLY glad Leica made the delay available to us!

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    I'm really happy with the upgraded shutter + delayed release too. In the little bit I've shot with it (around the house before work) I've noticed that you really have to fully release the shutter button to get the shutter to recock. I never noticed how much I held the shutter in the half-depressed position before...

    Now if there was just a digital version of the MP, with cloth shutter and manual shutter cock, we might be entirely back to the classic M feeling. (95% there already and happy for that.)

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    Re: Woohooo M8 firmware update!

    Quote Originally Posted by Jack Flesher View Post
    Just updated here too. Went fine and now my M8.1 w/modified (quieter) shutter sounds and operates just like the M8.2 Really glad I did the new shutter upgrade, and REALLY glad Leica made the delay available to us!

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    Wish I had a mode to load.
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    Re: Woohooo M8 firmware update!

    Fascinating
    Leica have hit a home run with this upgrade!
    I have two M8's, one with the upgraded shutter, one without. As Terry says, the 2 second exposure gives one a limited answer.

    The truth is that the delayed shutter re-cock makes the upgraded shutter seem much MUCH more attractive. The recock noise is different, but not THAT different, but the initial shutter opening and closing is a world of difference, and the new shutter is sooooo much quieter.

    It's clarified my decision . . . I'll miss the 1/8000th, but I'll be updating the shutter on my second M8 Oh Yes!

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    Re: Woohooo M8 firmware update!

    Quote Originally Posted by Guy Mancuso View Post
    but folks are expecting a new shutter sound and this is not it, the shutter is still load.
    I just performed the most important test of all . . . the Emma (wife) test.


    I have two M8's, and one has the upgraded shutter, the other doesn't. When the upgraded one came back from leica, I tried to persuade her that the new shutter was quieter, and she simply said it wasn't worth a damn.

    With the discreet mode, I just tried it again, this time she said "Oh! that's totally different"

    I wasn't expecting to be convinced, but it's a no-brainer. This update will definitely encourage users to do the shutter upgrade, aren't Leica smart

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    Yea but she did not hear the back end of it. Sneaky you are. LOL
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    I'm just waiting for someone to say they take better pictures now after reading all this stuff on other forums . I have a gun firmly pointed to my head if someone say's that . I will upgrade myself in discrete mode of course
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    Re: Woohooo M8 firmware update!

    what everyone wants is another meaningless comparison!

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4EBsmrkA7t0

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    Re: Woohooo M8 firmware update!

    Quote Originally Posted by robertwright View Post
    what everyone wants is another meaningless comparison!
    If you're trying to call the 'Emma test' a meaningless comparison . . . then you're a brave man than me!

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    Re: Woohooo M8 firmware update!

    Quote Originally Posted by Guy Mancuso View Post
    Yea but she did not hear the back end of it. Sneaky you are. LOL
    Emma hears ALL ends of it.
    She's completely benign . . . but pulling wool over eyes is not an option

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    Re: Woohooo M8 firmware update!

    Quote Originally Posted by jonoslack View Post
    I just performed the most important test of all . . . the Emma (wife) test.


    I have two M8's, and one has the upgraded shutter, the other doesn't. When the upgraded one came back from leica, I tried to persuade her that the new shutter was quieter, and she simply said it wasn't worth a damn.

    With the discreet mode, I just tried it again, this time she said "Oh! that's totally different"

    I wasn't expecting to be convinced, but it's a no-brainer. This update will definitely encourage users to do the shutter upgrade, aren't Leica smart
    I'm in Emma's camp. When my upgraded camera arrived it didn't sound that much different. Then throw it into a Luigi case and I was thinking to myself what's all the fuss shot quieter shutter it isn't much different. Can't wait to get home, upgrade firmware and head to Vegas!

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    Re: Woohooo M8 firmware update!

    Quote Originally Posted by Guy Mancuso View Post
    I'm just waiting for someone to say they take better pictures now after reading all this stuff on other forums . I have a gun firmly pointed to my head if someone say's that . I will upgrade myself in discrete mode of course
    better pictures???

    Guy, this is still about getting them where you couldn't before -- not that I think this will effect you in anyway since I've rarely seen you take those type of photos. i'm still not understanding why you are belittling this upgrade. this (along with the shutter upgrade, yes) makes things possible.

    you should really just shoot yourself now and be done with it.

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    Re: Woohooo M8 firmware update!

    Quote Originally Posted by Guy Mancuso View Post
    I understand and don't think of it as a lark, for you and street it is useful but folks are expecting a new shutter sound and this is not it, the shutter is still load. A luigi case like Terry uses will muffle it no question but for a lot of folks it will be a passing and for some essential in the environment they shoot in. I am glad leica did it but for me if I went back to the M8 i would go for the m8.2 but that is me
    Well, I think it emphasizes the difference between the two shutters (good for Leica, as it'll encourage people like Woody and I with two bodies to upgrade the second one).

    However - it now means that for those with an original M8, they can upgrade the shutter and have everything that the M8.2 offers (except the 'stupid' mode).

    For you Guy - if you went back to the M8, now you could get an upgraded model rather than the new one and save yourself a lot of bucks.

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    Quote Originally Posted by cam View Post
    better pictures???

    Guy, this is still about getting them where you couldn't before -- not that I think this will effect you in anyway since I've rarely seen you take those type of photos. i'm still not understanding why you are belittling this upgrade. this (along with the shutter upgrade, yes) makes things possible.

    you should really just shoot yourself now and be done with it.
    Completely misunderstood my comments. I am belittling nothing. More like if I buy X camera it will make me a better photographer, hopefully you understand it better now.

    BTW I do a lot more street work than you think. I post very few images because I own this site and it is not about me, it is about the members

    BTW the last comment is a insult and i do take offense to it. I would NEVER say that to a member should I be treated any different
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    Re: Woohooo M8 firmware update!

    Quote Originally Posted by jonoslack View Post
    However - it now means that for those with an original M8, they can upgrade the shutter and have everything that the M8.2 offers (except the 'stupid' mode)

    And the new exposure compensation, sapphire back, black dot & hotshoe...if thats stuffs important.....
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    Re: Woohooo M8 firmware update!

    Quote Originally Posted by Guy Mancuso View Post
    BTW the last comment is a insult and i do take offense to it. I would NEVER say that to a member should I be treated any different
    my apologies, Guy. i meant it in the same context as you wrote it in the first place. i did not mean it in any other way and really should have added the appropriate smiley. i thought you would realise i was kidding -- as were you.

    again, my sincerest apologies.

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    No problem. And my apologies as well. I kid around a lot and sometimes it get's misunderstood. Closet stand up comedian.
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    Re: Woohooo M8 firmware update!

    I loaded the firmware update on my M8 last night. The shutter "thunk" is indeed louder than the whine of the recocking. But separating the two may still be useful, as the whine lasts much longer, and gives people a chance to zero in on the sound. If I really want stealthy quiet, I would still choose my M6. But the firmware upgrade has probably given me a little more leeway in where I would use the M8. The new shutter or an M8.2 would probably be better, but that's not in the cards right now.

    The firmware upgrade went smoothly, no worries. But shortly afterwards, my hot water heater failed and spilled its 50 gallons all over my laundry room floor. Coincidence? Should I call Solms?

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    Re: Woohooo M8 firmware update!

    Quote Originally Posted by Peter Klein View Post
    ...snip....

    The firmware upgrade went smoothly, no worries. But shortly afterwards, my hot water heater failed and spilled its 50 gallons all over my laundry room floor. Coincidence? Should I call Solms?

    --Peter


    Separating the two sounds made it clear to me that the shutter upgrade that I have scheduled for April 1 will be a good thing.

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    This is all very confusing┐?So the M8 is still not quite quiet enough but the M8 2 is as loud as the M6,M7?You have to wind on the film camera too but that is the richest of sounds.
    Last edited by nei1; 5th March 2009 at 12:05.

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