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    "It's a Leica Thing"

    I tell people, "if I have to explain, you wouldn't understand"

    I'll show ya mine, if you'll show me yours!

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    My father purchased the IIIG (then a IIIc) new in Germany in 1946. He handed it down to me (I first started using it in 1968), and that was the beginning of an obsession. Oh, I've dallied with Nikon (which I've owned many of since acquiring my first in 1972), Pentax, Olympus, Canon and Minolta (just to name the 35mm cameras), and I still have 3 Nikons and 2 Canons today, but nothing has ever approached my passion for that little rangefinder, and that magnificent glass.

    Yes, it's a chronic condition, and I stopped looking for a cure long ago.

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    I know the feeling.















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    That's what I'm talking about!!!

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    Re: "It's a Leica Thing"

    My Two Loves.....

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    Quote Originally Posted by helenhill View Post
    My Two Loves.....
    Easy to see why!! Thanks for sharing!

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    Leica M8, M9 & Lens Reviews!
    http://www.stevehuffphoto.com

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    Re: "It's a Leica Thing"

    Love the look of these cameras folks!

    Ok, ok....I know this is not much, but at least this is a start!

    Here is the 50mm Summicron-R I bought from Erik Five a few months ago (it was in PERFECT condition, by the way...thanks Erik!).

    I'm ashamed to admit that I haven't 1) used it much or 2) added anything more to my Leica arsenal. I guess at the very least, an R8 or R9 is required...although I was sort of holding out to see what the R10 looks like.

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    Quote Originally Posted by stevem8 View Post


    Sweet!

    And, that's very clever of you to use the filter that way on the CV 15/4.5.

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    Quote Originally Posted by bensonga View Post
    Love the look of these cameras folks!

    Ok, ok....I know this is not much, but at least this is a start!

    Here is the 50mm Summicron-R I bought from Erik Five a few months ago (it was in PERFECT condition, by the way...thanks Erik!).

    I'm ashamed to admit that I haven't 1) used it much or 2) added anything more to my Leica arsenal. I guess at the very least, an R8 or R9 is required...although I was sort of holding out to see what the R10 looks like.

    Gary
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    Beautiful piece of glass. It's a great start... hey, when you're in, you're in!!

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    Re: "It's a Leica Thing"

    Sadists

    Gary - nice glass. Welcome to the water slide to poverty & obsession. R glass is bad enough. M-glass is a whole other matter.

    Buy an adapter for a Canon or convert the sucker to Nikon (www.leitax.com). R8/9 are VERY nice, but watch for failed metering cells - and scratching of first 2-3 and last 2-3 frames on roll (stupid film pressure 'slide' vs roller) on well-used R8s or R9s. Best ergos of any 35mm camera I ever had - with the motor grip. Lacking the motor grip, the ergos suck.

    Want nice? Grab a clean 80 Lux or 90/2 pre-AA and stick on a nice FF DSLR. I won't even get into the modern APOs, the latest 19/2.8 or 28/2.8. Sick, just sick.

    That said, you could sell that cherry 50 to someone ... ;>
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    Quote Originally Posted by Erik Five View Post
    I know the feeling.














    You are a sick individual, buddy

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    Re: "It's a Leica Thing"

    Quote Originally Posted by robmac View Post
    Sadists

    Gary - nice glass. Welcome to the water slide to poverty & obsession. R glass is bad enough. M-glass is a whole other matter.

    Buy an adapter for a Canon.....
    I know from my experience with my Hasselblad V-system that this is indeed a slippery slope!

    Erik had a Haoda adapter for Leica-R to Canon EOS which came with the lens, so I have no excuses for not giving it a good try on my Canon 40D....just haven't gotten out there to do it yet, beyond a few casual photos when the lens arrived here.

    Something that puzzles me.....I've seen references to 2-CAM, 3-CAM, ROM lenses and I'm not sure what that means.

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    Eric,youre an addict,a leica junkie,do you have a favourite?Helen..another beautiful,classy foto.

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    Re: "It's a Leica Thing"

    Here is a explanation of the different kinds. The one you bought from me is a ROM.

    http://leica.nemeng.com/001c.shtml



    Quote Originally Posted by bensonga View Post
    I know from my experience with my Hasselblad V-system that this is indeed a slippery slope!

    Erik had a Haoda adapter for Leica-R to Canon EOS which came with the lens, so I have no excuses for not giving it a good try on my Canon 40D....just haven't gotten out there to do it yet, beyond a few casual photos when the lens arrived here.

    Something that puzzles me.....I've seen references to 2-CAM, 3-CAM, ROM lenses and I'm not sure what that means.

    Gary
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    Re: "It's a Leica Thing"

    Something tells me that youre not the right person to say so. He he


    Quote Originally Posted by Riccis View Post
    You are a sick individual, buddy

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    Re: "It's a Leica Thing"

    As well, for mounting on a Canon, Nikon 2, 3 cam or ROM doesn't matter. If anything, on Nikon some of the older pre-ROM versions may be easier (see the leitax site for details).

    If looking to save coin, go for 2-3 cam version. However, note that while some older 2-3 cam lenses have remained optically identical and just updated to ROM with the advent of the R8/9/DMR, some have also changed optically (almost always for the better).

    The vast majority of 3 Cam lenses and their ROM variants are optically identical. It's when you go back to 2 cam or single cam that older variants may differ.

    If you email Doug Herr http://www.wildlightphoto.com/ a member here (IIRc) and "telyt" on FM, he has a free password-access site that reviews most Leica R bodies and many lenses with real world-shooting differences between variants (vs . arcane collector minutiae) and has some nice 'sleeper' lens reccs.

    Older ROM lenses an be chipped or converted to ROM for something like $300 by a Leica service center (doesn't have to go to Solms).

    Quote Originally Posted by Erik Five View Post
    Here is a explanation of the different kinds. The one you bought from me is a ROM.

    http://leica.nemeng.com/001c.shtml

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    Re: "It's a Leica Thing"

    Re purchasing an R body.....KEH has a R9 Anthracite body they describe as in LN- condition and "Certified Pre-Owned" for $1,539 USD. I couldn't find anything on Leica's website about a certified pre-owned program. Does anyone know what this might be?

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    No idea - likely has been inspected or maybe a factory demo.

    That said, the price is FAR too high. The R8 and R9 are virtually identical other than small differences such as an LCD counter on top plate andtweaks to make body more adaptable to DMR. Other than that they are same camera. A clean used R8 can be acquired for well under $1000, say $750-800.

    When buying ask re: film scratching and if any issues with metering. If the latter, it can be an expensive fix as I understand most of mirror box needs to be replaced. My R8 had already had it's meter issue and been repaired.

    Also strongly recommend looking at getting the motorgrip. Not the simple motor drive, but the motor grip with the additional shutter button on front. Transforms the ergos (can't stress that enough). Also the shutter buttons on the R8/9 and grip can get a little 'sticky' so check that well when buying.

    On the scratching, most cameras use a thin roller near sprocket to pressure the film. On the R8/9, some idiot decided to use a 'smooth' plastic 'speed bump' instead.

    It's located on the inside of the door and has a small roller that turns some silly black & white barber-pole-style indicator in a window to indicate that the film is advancing. Utterly useless.

    It happens that 'smooth' is a relative thing. After lots of use some R8/9s see microscopic surface imperfections develop on the plastic of the speed-bump where it contacts the film.

    As the film roll starts and finishes, it comes in contact with the plastic and you get 2-3 or more horizontal scratches across the first and last 2-3 frames of every roll.

    I tried polishing my 'speed bump' to no avail and eventually stuck a small piece of a special slippery tape sold in carpentry stores such as Lee Valley for making jigs over the bump. That stopped it. Many folks remove the bump and black-out the window behind it or replace the bump with a proper $%^& roller from a trashed donor camera.

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    Re: "It's a Leica Thing"

    Thanks for the great info Robmac. Hmmm....with those film scratching issues, it's hard to know whether to buy an R8/R9 or not now. Guess I'll see how the lens works out on my Canon EOS film and digital cameras for awhile. Might do some comparisions between the 50mm Summicron and my Canon 50mm f1.4 lens....and go from there. I noticed that Camera West has an R9 listed for even more than KEH.....and a R9/DMR combo as well (for just under $6k).

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    No worries. The scratching issue can be PIA. My Nikon 5000 ED corrected for it pretty well, but other than that the R8/9 are sweet.

    CW isn't known for bargains, but they will negotiate ;> That said, more than $900 for a CLEAN R8 and it's too much. R9 - unless you're going DMR, I don't see it as worth any real premium.

    You can also look at an older R or SL series bodies - many, but not all (electronics seem to be the big issue), have reps as GREAT rigs. However, not all lenses (e.g. 3cam, ROM, etc) are entirely backwards compatible.

    Just looking at his site as I type this, some VERY brief highlights:

    1. ROM lenses will not, for example, mount on an SL/SL2 (one of his fave bodies) but 1,2 and 3 cam units will. ROM can be reverse-converted, but just replace the ROM unit with an older one.
    2. R4 variants for known for many issues
    3. R3 is a Minolta body
    4. R6 and 6.2 have a strong following

    Doug Herr or some of the other long-time R body users will be able to give you MUCH better details and Doug's Leica R website (just email him for a password) is worth it's weight in gold

    All that said you can buy an adapter and mount it on any EoS film/digital body or a leitax kit and stick it on any Nikon Fx film or DSLR body for far less money and with zero issues.
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    Re: "It's a Leica Thing"

    Obsessive compulsive?

    Sure : -)

    A couple of my favorites in the endless array of Leica stuff down the years ...
    including "The Once and Future King"

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    Quote Originally Posted by fotografz View Post
    Obsessive compulsive?

    Sure : -)

    A couple of my favorites in the endless array of Leica stuff down the years ...
    including "The Once and Future King"
    Oh yeah... Leica Porn!!

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    Love the R10 mock-up! Or do you have inside info that we don't

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    I can feel myself going blind as we speak... Send those R10 images to Solms -- along with a note to get their collective **** in one bag and get on with it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by robmac View Post
    I can feel myself going blind as we speak... Send those R10 images to Solms -- along with a note to get their collective **** in one bag and get on with it.

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    Marc, love the MP3 especially with the vintage 90 Cron.

    I have the same 50 Lux LHSA.......truly a classic

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    Quote Originally Posted by Seascape View Post
    Marc, love the MP3 especially with the vintage 90 Cron.

    I have the same 50 Lux LHSA.......truly a classic
    Just too beautiful for words.

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    Re: "It's a Leica Thing"

    Vintage Chrome on Black - why not






    P.S. Image taken with the M8's big brother, more Leica goodies in the cabinet!

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    Quote Originally Posted by cmb_ View Post
    Vintage Chrome on Black - why not






    P.S. Image taken with the M8's big brother, more Leica goodies in the cabinet!
    Yes!!!! Now we're talkin'!!

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    Re: "It's a Leica Thing"

    okay, boys, i just have to ask... how the hey do you get your chrome to sparkle so???

    i've got beautiful glass (including vintage knurls) but it looks dull dull dull in comparison....

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    Forget the optics, they knew how to make quality camera porn 'back in the day'. Vintage chrome finish, crinkle-finish square hood (now nicely brassed), metal caps. All your missing (no offense to the '8') is a nicely brassed black-paint Mx. Sigh.

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    Re: "It's a Leica Thing"

    Cam - just take a photo of them (and don't get too close!) - it's all in the photo.

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    My current obsession

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    Nice!

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    Re: "It's a Leica Thing"

    Quote Originally Posted by cmb_ View Post
    Vintage Chrome on Black - why not






    P.S. Image taken with the M8's big brother, more Leica goodies in the cabinet!
    Beautiful 85 Summarex

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    Quote Originally Posted by cmb_ View Post
    Nice!
    Beautiful 85 Summarex in your earlier photos

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    Re: "It's a Leica Thing"

    it's a turn page thing




    captured with Nikon D300 • Zeiss ZF 2/100mm • 1/200 sec. at f/2.8 ISO 200

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    Re: "It's a Leica Thing"

    It's a Leica thing








    the above images were captured with Nikon D300 • Zeiss ZF 2/100mm • f/2 & f/2.8 ISO 200

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    Quote Originally Posted by bondo View Post
    It's a Leica thing








    the above images were captured with Nikon D300 • Zeiss ZF 2/100mm • f/2 & f/2.8 ISO 200
    NICE!!

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    Re: "It's a Leica Thing"

    Thanks Lloyd - and now: same thing







    the above images were captured with Nikon D300 • Zeiss ZF 2/100mm • f/2 or f/2.8 ISO 200

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    Quote Originally Posted by bondo View Post
    Thanks Lloyd - and now: same thing



    the above images were captured with Nikon D300 • Zeiss ZF 2/100mm • f/2 or f/2.8 ISO 200
    Very nice. Love the results from the Zeiss 100/2 too.

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    Yes, it's the zoom - the genuine year 2000 1.3 Mp Leica digilux zoom



    captured with Nikon D300 • Zeiss ZF 2/100mm • 1/2000 sec. at f/2.8 ISO 200

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    Quote Originally Posted by bondo View Post
    Yes, it's the zoom - the genuine year 2000 1.3 Mp Leica digilux zoom



    captured with Nikon D300 • Zeiss ZF 2/100mm • 1/2000 sec. at f/2.8 ISO 200
    Was that just 2000? Wow, how time flies in the digital world, eh?

    Love that creamy bokeh, btw.

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    The name should be changed to:

    It's a Leica thang!

    (Might get lost in translation to some folks.)

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    true dat

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    Re: "It's a Leica Thing"

    Just joined the Leica club for real now.....I picked up a super clean R8 with motor drive and motor winder this week. Added a 90mm f2.8 Elmarit (latest version) to the beautiful 50mm Summicron I got from Erik. A 28mm f2.8 Elmarit (also latest version) is on it's way from Camerawest. Everything seems to work fine. I'll take some pics of the R8 and three lenses this weekend.

    Thinking I might do a little comparo/shootout someday between the R8 with these lenses vs the Canon 1V I got from Marc (with my 50 f1.4 and 85 f1.8 EOS lenses) and the Nikon F3HP with 28 f2.8, 50 f1.2 and 105 f2.5 AIS Nikkors. Should be fun.

    Guess I won't be getting the Arca Swiss Cube now after all. :-(

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    Quote Originally Posted by bensonga View Post
    Just joined the Leica club for real now.....I picked up a super clean R8 with motor drive and motor winder this week. Added a 90mm f2.8 Elmarit (latest version) to the beautiful 50mm Summicron I got from Erik. A 28mm f2.8 Elmarit (also latest version) is on it's way from Camerawest. Everything seems to work fine. I'll take some pics of the R8 and three lenses this weekend.

    Thinking I might do a little comparo/shootout someday between the R8 with these lenses vs the Canon 1V I got from Marc (with my 50 f1.4 and 85 f1.8 EOS lenses) and the Nikon F3HP with 28 f2.8, 50 f1.2 and 105 f2.5 AIS Nikkors. Should be fun.

    Guess I won't be getting the Arca Swiss Cube now after all. :-(

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    Nice! Looking forward to pix.

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