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    7 Artisans 50/1.1

    It is not often one finds a new lens on Amazon!
    https://www.amazon.de/7artisans-50mm...ords=7Artisans

    Anyone tried it?

    Looks intriguing.

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    Re: 7 Artisans 50/1.1

    and....

    https://tieba.baidu.com/p/5101327926


    http://www.wxhaowen.com/article_1a0f...40f76da7.shtml








    Quote Originally Posted by Vivek View Post
    It is not often one finds a new lens on Amazon!
    https://www.amazon.de/7artisans-50mm...ords=7Artisans

    Anyone tried it?

    Looks intriguing.
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    Re: 7 Artisans 50/1.1

    I received my lens 2 days ago. I wanted to describe the actual lens for the benefit of the readers...
    The lens came by DHL in abut a week after ordering through Amazon US. There was no duty collected. The lens is 6 bit coded as the F1.0 Noctilux. No lens hood was included. Fit and finish look excellent. There are included instructions to calibrate the lens and the rangefinder to your camera. (You loosen screws, rotate the focusing helix, tighten the screws.) This is required only for use on M cameras. Lens appears to be coated. The rotational distance to go from Infinity to .7 meters is less than 90 degrees. I would have preferred more for a lens with very thin DOF. have not shot the lens yet, so no comments on image quality.
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    Thank yourl Frank for your prelimary observations. I very much look forward to your thoughts regarding optical performance and various parameters associated with optical properties as compared to other 50mm lenses you have on hand....especially wide open perfoemance.

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    Re: 7 Artisans 50/1.1

    I echo what Dave said and look forward to your test images, Frank. I also would like to see how it behaves stopped down since they claimed it is a Sonnar design.
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    Re: 7 Artisans 50/1.1

    Quote Originally Posted by Vivek View Post
    I echo what Dave said and look forward to your test images, Frank. I also would like to see how it behaves stopped down since they claimed it is a Sonnar design.
    Why? What is the point of having an f/1.1 lens and using it at f/11?

    I have never understood this.
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    Re: 7 Artisans 50/1.1

    You probably do not understand how a Sonnar behaves then. You can have buttery smooth boket even when you stop down by a few. I am not talking about f11 but f/4-5.6 range.

    Quote Originally Posted by Robert Campbell View Post
    Why? What is the point of having an f/1.1 lens and using it at f/11?

    I have never understood this.

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    Re: 7 Artisans 50/1.1

    Quote Originally Posted by Vivek View Post
    You probably do not understand how a Sonnar behaves then. You can have buttery smooth bokeh even when you stop down by a few. I am not talking about f11 but f/4-5.6 range.
    I'm sure you're correct, Vivek. If I was presented with two identical images in which all the parameters were identical save for the type of lens used, I might be able to see a difference, but I couldn't tell which types of lenses had been used.

    But, if I wanted to get the bokeh from a Sonnar lens at f/5.6, why not get a f/2 lens (I'm assuming that such a lens is available). Is there a difference between an f/1.1 and f/2 when equally stopped down?

    To me, getting an f/1.1 lens and using it at f/5.6 seems similar to buying a car to do local shopping — but getting a Ferrari.

    What am I missing?
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    Re: 7 Artisans 50/1.1

    Robert, If f/1.1 needed, then the faster lens comes in handy. If the whole face and not just one eye brow needs to be in focus then one needs to stop down. In that event if the back ground looks then a Sonnar comes in handy.

    Hope that clears it up.

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    Re: 7 Artisans 50/1.1

    Quote Originally Posted by Vivek View Post
    Robert, If f/1.1 needed, then the faster lens comes in handy. If the whole face and not just one eye brow needs to be in focus then one needs to stop down. In that event if the back ground looks then a Sonnar comes in handy.

    Hope that clears it up.
    Vivek, I'm not being argumentative (much!). I remember the good old days, when Kodachrome was ASA 10 and SLR viewfinders were very dim — hence the need for very wide aperture lenses.

    I don't disagree with the eyebrow in focus theory, though I thought the point of focus should be on the bridge of the nose, so that the eyes, the portal to the soul, were just so slightly defocussed — important in female portraiture, to retain the eternal mystery that is woman.

    And, were I to win the Euromillions, I might well go for a Thambar to replicate this, even if I don't really do portraiture. Meanwhile, I fear a GAS attack to be imminent; I see I can get this lens off ebay for around £280-290, at which price it is really a 'steal'.

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    Re: 7 Artisans 50/1.1

    I am rooting for you to win (the euro millions), Robert. If I beat you to it, I will get you a Thambar.
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