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    Leica TL2's shutter sound

    http://www.mirrorlessrumors.com/shut...ced-leica-tl2/

    In the era of silent shutters, this is something new. The comments there are interesting.
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    Re: Leica TL2's shutter sound

    If they're smart they'll make the camera into a mini SL with built in EVF.
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    Re: Leica TL2's shutter sound

    Quote Originally Posted by Vivek View Post
    http://www.mirrorlessrumors.com/shut...ced-leica-tl2/

    In the era of silent shutters, this is something new. The comments there are interesting.
    Vivek, admit it: it's refreshingly out-of-the-box thinking ! Imagine a shutter you can actually hear !

    Call me old-school, but I appreciate a bit of noise when I press that button.
    No sound makes me feel confused: did I take that snap or what ?

    Anyway, as always history repeats itself, but I wouldn't be surprised there's a clever twist to it that we still have to learn.

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    Re: Leica TL2's shutter sound

    Why a shutter sound at all today ????? With a camera to be still introduced ?????

    They are really getting crazy

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    Perhaps the first snap itself will lead to a sensor explosion 💥 to be done with in the beginning instead of waiting for years?

    Quote Originally Posted by Knorp View Post

    Anyway, as always history repeats itself, but I wouldn't be surprised there's a clever twist to it that we still have to learn.

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    Re: Leica TL2's shutter sound

    Quote Originally Posted by Knorp View Post
    I wouldn't be surprised there's a clever twist to it that we still have to learn.
    They don't say that it's a shutter sound. It could be something else entirely.

    Maybe it's a machine that polishes TL2 bodies, as opposed to the hand-polishing that the T and TL supposedly received.

    The sound could also be slowed-down, which would makes sense if the new camera offers high-speed video.

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    Re: Leica TL2's shutter sound

    I have the T and holding it up to my ear, the shutter sounds the same. I've seen all the rumors, but so far I haven't seen much that would make me want to upgrade. I would have for an integrated EVF, or perhaps IBIS. If all we have is 24mp, 4k and no flash....I'm not that impressed.

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    Re: Leica TL2's shutter sound

    No integrated EVF. It is just a TL with an upgraded sensor.

    There will be an yellow case available and you can dazzle everyone with the sleek accessories (what Leica said in their email)!

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    Re: Leica TL2's shutter sound

    Quote Originally Posted by Vivek View Post
    No integrated EVF. It is just a TL with an upgraded sensor.

    There will be an yellow case available and you can dazzle everyone with the sleek accessories (what Leica said in their email)!
    Maybe it's me but this seems to be out of touch with the direction most want to go with mirrorless. It seems Sony, Fuji, Panasonic, and Olympus "get it" but it seems that some traditional companies are fighting market direction to protect "established interests."

    They made a very good product in the SL (though it has its quirks). I can't for the life of me understand why the TL2 isn't just a miniature APS-C version of it. Seems like a no-brainer decision to make... but this also demonstrates where my ideals and Leica's completely diverged after the M9/MM cameras... though the M10 looks to be Leica headed in the right direction for the M again.
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    Re: Leica TL2's shutter sound

    It will be clear soon enough: Jono has put together a nice piece for our entertainment ...
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    Re: Leica TL2's shutter sound

    Hope he help sells a few units for them. I am already convinced by Leica's email!
    (No interest at all)
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    It will be clear soon enough: Jono has put together a nice piece for our entertainment ...

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    Re: Leica TL2's shutter sound

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    Hope he sells a few units for them.
    I'm sure his 'Testing the TL2' will shift quite a few copies ...
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    Re: Leica TL2's shutter sound

    Among the blind?

    Quote Originally Posted by Knorp View Post
    I'm sure his 'Testing the TL2' will shift quite a few copies ...
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    Among the blind?
    Of course not the blind ! Among the deaf ones ...
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    Re: Leica TL2's shutter sound

    I don't know why I bothered to look at this thread. Just the same old nasty comments whenever Leica introduces a new camera.

    You are not their audience, and you don't speak for their audience. Get over it and be happy with whatever other thing you like.

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    Re: Leica TL2's shutter sound

    Quote Originally Posted by Godfrey View Post
    I don't know why I bothered to look at this thread. Just the same old nasty comments whenever Leica introduces a new camera.

    You are not their audience, and you don't speak for their audience. Get over it and be happy with whatever other thing you like.

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    Oh c'mon G, you like to bother us ...
    And speaking for myself: I'm a Leica fanboy but without cameras to prove it (all stolen).
    So there you go.
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    Re: Leica TL2's shutter sound

    Quote Originally Posted by Godfrey View Post
    You are not their audience, and you don't speak for their audience.

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    I did not claim to speak for their audience and you have no right to claim who their audience is or not. I have money invested in their faulty products bought in part influenced by those making the sales pitch like Jono.
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    Re: Leica TL2's shutter sound

    Quote Originally Posted by Godfrey View Post
    I don't know why I bothered to look at this thread. Just the same old nasty comments whenever Leica introduces a new camera.

    You are not their audience, and you don't speak for their audience. Get over it and be happy with whatever other thing you like.

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    I think everyone that has commented owns or owned Leica products so we probably are or were exactly the target demographic. If that's no longer the case then I will continue to watch product announcements and not buy them until they launch something that I feelnis worth my money but I have no issue with Leica as a company.

    Maybe people keep an eye on what everyone is doing without extreme ties to any brand loyalty. I think most know that over the last 15 years I've shot Canon, Panasonic, Leica, and currently Sony. If Leica happens to produce an exciting product that absolutely nails it in the eyes of most people would that make others the target audience then?

    I guess the thing is that some people have different requirements for what makes it a must buy or a deal breaker and many people's main issue with the TL was the lack of a built in EVF. As stated... that seems like a easy decision and they can add the extra $500 or so they'd charge for one in the price of the TL2. That would solve 90% of the gripes with the specs.

    Don't take people's thoughts on a newly announced product as anything other than a person's initial thoughts. It doesn't make them "nasty comments" to see that Leica hasn't changed the one thing that many have wanted them to change about the original version. There's a big difference between interjecting a thought or two and repeatedly saying how much someone doesn't like a product in every thread for years whether it's complaining about the cost of a Leica or complaints about an "electronics company" ruining the entire camera market with innovation and test products.
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    Re: Leica TL2's shutter sound

    Nice camera and much better equipped than the earlier versions. Still the slickest design anywhere. Jono has already proven that it's possible to take photos with it. I wouldn't mind having one, even paying the asking price.
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    Re: Leica TL2's shutter sound

    Quote Originally Posted by Jorgen Udvang View Post
    Nice camera and much better equipped than the earlier versions. Still the slickest design anywhere. Jono has already proven that it's possible to take photos with it. I wouldn't mind having one, even paying the asking price.
    I think most cameras these days are capable of taking great pictures in capable hands to be honest.

    What features interest you most? Does the lack of an integrated EVF being added to the body still concern you?
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    Re: Leica TL2's shutter sound

    Quote Originally Posted by Bernard View Post
    They don't say that it's a shutter sound. It could be something else entirely.
    It's definitely not the shutter sound: it's rather the sound of silence.

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    Re: Leica TL2's shutter sound

    Quote Originally Posted by Vivek View Post
    I did not claim to speak for their audience and you have no right to claim who their audience is or not. I have money invested in their faulty products bought in part influenced by those making the sales pitch like Jono.
    Hi There Vivek - and Bart and Nelson and Jörgen

    I hope you're all well
    I'm astonished at an admission Vivek that I've ever had any influence on you! And I deeply apologise if it's been a malign influence!

    Nelson - like you, I'd really like to see a baby SL with an APS-c sensor and I don't see why they don't make it . . but I don't think that means that the TL2 is no good, and perhaps Leica have a problem in that if they simply follow the lead of Sony / Panasonic / Olympus then they'll produce a 'me-too' camera which is twice the price.

    But then I really liked the T (even if it was too slow), because it was fun and simple to use and took good pictures with nice small lenses. The TL2 has many of the same limitations, but now the blackout on the EVF has just about completely gone and everything is fast (AF/shot to shot/review - everything).

    . . . and the shutter does sound lovely!

    But it also shows Leica's commitment to APS-c, so maybe we'll get our SL like body later (here's hoping - and of course I really know nothing or I couldn't possibly say!).

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    Re: Leica TL2's shutter sound

    Quote Originally Posted by iiiNelson View Post
    I think most cameras these days are capable of taking great pictures in capable hands to be honest.

    What features interest you most? Does the lack of an integrated EVF being added to the body still concern you?
    The lack of an integrated viewfinder is an obvious minus to me. What I find appealing is the simplistic design and the compact lenses. They do lack a dedicated portrait lens though. Since the macro, which I'm sure is fine for portraits too, is 60mm f/2.8, a 90mm f/2 would've been great.
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    Re: Leica TL2's shutter sound

    Quote Originally Posted by Jorgen Udvang View Post
    The lack of an integrated viewfinder is an obvious minus to me. What I find appealing is the simplistic design and the compact lenses. They do lack a dedicated portrait lens though. Since the macro, which I'm sure is fine for portraits too, is 60mm f/2.8, a 90mm f/2 would've been great.
    The 35/1.4, 60/2.8 and also the Telezoom work quite good for portrait. Not dedicated portrait lenses but the rendering works very well. I use them for taking images of my kids.
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    Re: Leica TL2's shutter sound

    For APSC I meanwhile use the Fuji X system with much success and delight. And this system does have all possible different camera choices available you could think of, so as an APSC system this is the perfect one IMHO. And not only as APSC as it blows away many FF systems as well.

    Sure it lacks the almost perfect simplistic design of the Leica TL system, but on the other side TL and X system follow two totally contrary design philosophies. I myself prefer the X system philosophy much more.

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    Re: Leica TL2's shutter sound

    Quote Originally Posted by Knorp View Post
    It's definitely not the shutter sound: it's rather the sound of silence.

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    Okay, EVF bug fixed ... Important Information for Leica TL2
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