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    Re: Even More M8 Fun [POST YER PIX!]

    WoW! Now that is 3D. My natural reaction was to tilt my head a bit in an attempt to see behind the front rock formation : -)

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    Re: Even More M8 Fun [POST YER PIX!]

    Bob: WOW! Film obviously still has some life left in it! I see the range in that image and am in awe. Great capture!
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    Re: Even More M8 Fun [POST YER PIX!]

    Thanks folks,
    And Terry gave me the film, Thanks Terry!
    It is interesting that when that image is printed at 13 by 19, it has visible grain and scanning artifacts as well as what seems to be chemical edge effect, which in digital we would call over-sharpened, nevertheless it does retain that 3D look. Photographers tend to look at prints a nose length away, but at arm's length, the 13 by 19 doesn't look too bad.
    I have all sorts of stuff arriving on monday to develop my own B&W films. The drugstore processing I would call over-replenished and dirty. A decent print would have been very much a bother without digital ICE.
    Yes, there is a use for film.
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    Now do I back up my M8 with its twin, or do I back it up with the MP and what do I back up the MP with (maybe nothing)??

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    Bob,
    I back up my M8 with an MP and couldn't be happier.

    I have had my negs come back from the drug-store lab with streaks and scratches. If I let them scan them, they are not even usable. I'm going back to developing my own black and white, too.

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    Cindy,
    We should start a new group under image processing-chemical.
    -bob

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    Dumb question but I haven't developed a roll of film in 20+ years. What is a good process and how precise does one need to be with temperature of the developer these days? Or even easier is there a good link to website with good info?

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    Terry,
    There is a lot of good info on RFF. You have to wade through a lot to find it. When I find something interesting, I usually paste it into a document for future reference.

    Bob,
    I can't get myself set up till I get back to Wisconsin in April. I would love to trade ideas with people here who have knowledge and experience in getting this set up. I hope they start chiming-in. Maybe Jack can make a place for us as you suggested. I'm interested.

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    Terry,
    While I understand the fun of doing your own souping, and getting to see things sooner, I still do not understand why you do not send your film to a good lab in NYC. They are still there, and your film will not be scratched and stuff like the drugstore processing. May cost a bit more and take an extra day or so, but you will like the results a lot more. having them do the scans may get pricey, but I sure would consider letting them do the developing, unless you really want to get back into Rodinal, stop baths, and all the other nasty smelling stuff. (I spent way, way too much time doing darkroom work many years ago, and you would be hard pressed to get me near one again.)

    LJ

    P.S. If anybody is really interested, I have lots of old Kindermann stainless steel tanks and reels, a complete Omega Dichroic enlarger and Nikkor lens, computer, you name it for a complete darkroom set-up. Been carefully boxed for decades ;-) I could not even donate it to a college or highschool teaching photography, as they do not even teach developing at most anymore, but instead, how to communicate with professional lab techs to let them do the work. How sad is that?!
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    Re: Even More M8 Fun [POST YER PIX!]

    It is not too hard to do, although there are still good labs in NYC I hear.
    Temperature control for B&W is probably within a degree.
    I used to run control strips and set up a temp vs time chart to hit my target curves.
    This was an off-shoot of zone system style 4x5 where each sheet might get different processing depending on the luminance range of the subject.
    But hey, it is not really that tough to do, and negative film is more forgiving than digital or transparency by maybe three or more stops.
    So if you can borrow the reels, the chemicals and bottles to get you started is not that much. You might just give it a try.
    I see that on ebay there are still some good condition nikor reels and tanks available.
    -bob
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    Memories oh those memories. Need Maggie for backup on the guitar here. At least 18 years since i been in a darkroom. Now that is scary
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    Re: Even More M8 Fun [POST YER PIX!]

    for black and white:you can get a small changing bag (tent) from B&H, a double reel stainless tank and a couple of reels, a darkroom thermometer, HC110, fixer, stop bath, an overflow washer, photoflo solution, a few film hanging clips. mix the Hc110 fresh for each session, use and discard. cost about $300, it is easy, but buy a throwaway roll of film to get used to loading the reels in the dark, he,he. developer temp is the most critical, but it is 68 degrees, not too hard
    if you are really hell bent, get a used rolleiflex for $500 and shoot MF, just as easy, assuming you can scan in 6x6 negs
    the larger setup is if you want to print, then you need a full darkroom, enlarger, etc.

    terry: if you want to give it a try, pm me, even the rollei, heh,heh
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    Quote Originally Posted by Guy Mancuso View Post
    Memories oh those memories. Need Maggie for backup on the guitar here. At least 18 years since i been in a darkroom. Now that is scary
    What Guy said. It's been too long.

    I used to have a custom-built darkroom in my parents' basement, man that was sweeeeeeet. I was trolling for an M4 a while back, but I realized that I don't really have a decent place to soup film and to be honest, I'd probably get sick of it after a few rolls and go back to digital. Especially since I wouldn't be able to print.

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    Re: Even More M8 Fun [POST YER PIX!]

    There was a similar setup in my parent's basement in Brooklyn oh a "few" years ago.
    I Intend to just develop some films and scan to print with my Nikon 5000.
    C41 is not that hard to do at home.
    I am just a lot happier with digital printing.
    Seems like the best of both worlds.
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    Re: Even More M8 Fun [POST YER PIX!]

    Right now I just have the film developed at the drugstore lab; no prints, no scans from them. I scan them with my Coolscan and then use a digital workflow. I just want to do the B+W developing myself. I won't have a dedicated darkroom. I plan to do it in the guest bathroom with some kind of a table rigged over the bathtub.

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    Re: Even More M8 Fun [POST YER PIX!]

    Thanks for all the responses. I wasn't really considering doing my own but between here and on LUF and DPReview I've recently seen about a dozen people going back developing their own B&W and was curious.

    Last summer when I was taking some classes at ICP (Intl. Center for Photography), the people shooting film and sending it to the "good" labs were pulling their hair out to get their film back in a timely manner and even then some of the processing wasn't spectacular.

    We had a full darkroom when I was growing up and pretty much my whole family used it. So, when I went away to college that was the end of my darkroom days. So, some of my desire to read is to just see what has changed for instance I know the papers are much different now for printing than what I used to use....printing is one thing I can never even imagine doing again.

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    I am on Vacation on Magarita Island in Venezuala. The is a huge condo building boom on here. The last boom was in the 1980's which lasted until rampant inflation pushed the interest rates so high a lot of the condos didn't get completed. I call this shot the old and the new. Two condos are being built in front of us and to one side is an old skeleton of an unfinished condo from the 1980's. This was taken at dusk after the sun went down using the B+W 093 filter and a 50mm Summicron. I processed the first one in C1 V4 and the second was in Lightroom.



    This was later at night. That is the skeleton of another condo from the 1980's.


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    happy scary patty
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    Here's a couple of pix, inspired by Lili's driving shots.

    Roca, NE, March, 2008




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    "ain't no weather for man nor beast"

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    Even More Fun ...

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    Dead Mouse, March, 2008




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    Re: Even More M8 Fun [POST YER PIX!]

    Steen, that first storm image is superb!!!
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    Thank you Sir

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    In Denver, CO there is an ancient cemetary. Dates from the 1800's. (Realizing that these dates may not be ancient to those of you who are east of this place)
    Not too many interruptions when you're shooting. Fine examples of the stonecutter's art. M8 and 75 lux. Maybe a little too goulish for St. Paddy's Day
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    Along the same line of past. Remember these "contraptions"?


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    Heading for home at 3 am, M8 in my hand and a fresh blanket of snow--just had to do one more shot.

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    Re: Even More M8 Fun [POST YER PIX!]

    This is a bump. Gotta keep the M8 fun alive. This is kind of a playtime thing with a completely non-socially-relevant shot. Experimenting in PS to get close to those wonderful tones and smudgy blacks from the analog printing days.

    (now that I see it posted here as a jpg, it doesn't quite look as rich as it does at full res in PS)

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    TRSmith: Cool shot do you use any special film grain filters in PS, I'm currently using the alien skin exposure demo it's nice I can't wait to be able to have a film grain plug-in in aperture!

    This is a shot of a glow in the dark night light processed in Aperture no PS.



    These are 2 B&W images I took this weekend to experiment with the film grain plugin.




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    Thanks Haya! And no plugins, just playing with stuff in PS. Your shots are wonderful! Very nice effect. The car interior has a great feel.

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    Great Shots Everyone !!
    Damn....one day soon I want to have M8 Funnnnn
    Cheers ! helen

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    Here's some fun from last weekend. It was a lot of fun, because it was sunny and 79 F (26C) in normally soggy Seattle. It didn't stay that way for long--it rained most of this past week, and snowed last night. But it was fun while it lasted. M8 and 50 Summicron for the first 3, 90/3.5 VC Lanthar for the last.

    1. Angry dancer throws partner at camera (actually Brazillian Capoeira).
    2. Pomeranian who thinks he's a kangaroo
    3&4. Street performer who walked a portable tightrope while singing "Let It Be" --horribly.

    I'm not sure which I prefer of the tightrope walker. I like the way the yellow sign echoes him in the first one, but the second one is tighter.

    Enjoy!
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    Very good series, Peter.
    My offering is a bit more grim...

    On the ramparts of Hellevoetsluis the rests of the German defenses from WWII are still around. Ironically, they were built on top of the old defenses against the British from time of Boswell and Pepys....
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    Nice shots Peter, I love the last one except for that darn sign behind him.

    Jaap I like the look of the old building
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    Wet dog.

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    I can smell it from here, Tim.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Maggie O View Post
    I can smell it from here, Tim.
    LOL.......YEAH MAGpie IS BACK
    with that sense of humor
    Nice Shot, Tim

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    Columbus Circle, NYC. M8 + 35 Cron.



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    Re: Even More M8 Fun [POST YER PIX!]

    Charles,
    Well done. Can't believe you got the angles lined up. I didn't notice if they've turned the fountains on...I want to do some longer exposure night shots there with the fountains going.

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    Quote Originally Posted by TEBnewyork View Post
    Charles,
    Well done. Can't believe you got the angles lined up. I didn't notice if they've turned the fountains on...I want to do some longer exposure night shots there with the fountains going.
    Terry - the fountains are on and the weather seems to be cooperating.

    I went by the Carousel today and got nothing once again. As I was approaching, two young girls had just gotten off and walked up to me commenting on my camera (the M8), something to the effect of, "Oh wow, cool!" I soon realized they had no idea what it was, they just liked the look of it. One of them was sporting a Holga and I asked if I could take a photo of her Holga on which I had already complemented her. She obliged. This is my Carousel photo.



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    Nice CMB. There's something encouraging about seeing someone that young with a Holga. The anti-tech Holga kinda blows the stereotype.

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    Quote Originally Posted by TRSmith View Post
    Nice CMB. There's something encouraging about seeing someone that young with a Holga. The anti-tech Holga kinda blows the stereotype.
    But she has no gaffers tape on it

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    Quote Originally Posted by TRSmith View Post
    Nice CMB. There's something encouraging about seeing someone that young with a Holga. The anti-tech Holga kinda blows the stereotype.
    Anti-tech? Dude, it's got an OPTICAL LENS!!!!


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    Admit it, after all the reading and studying and fussing, the simplicity of "Optical Lens" is kind of refreshing. Gold Star for the Product Manager at Holga.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Maggie O View Post
    Anti-tech? Dude, it's got an OPTICAL LENS!!!!

    Lens, maybe; optical - don't go there...

    It's very cool to see someone with braces not holding up their cellphone in myopic bewliderment.

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    Near Belfast, Maine.

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    this afternoon.

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    Wonderful ......TR
    Love the green shot flowing into the red shot
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    Thanks Helen!

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    Evening stroll at the harbor in Santa Cruz

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