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    Re: 21-Elmarit - New Dilemma

    Quote Originally Posted by Jack Flesher View Post
    EXCELLENT point.

    Yep, I second this!
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    Re: 21-Elmarit - New Dilemma

    Now most of the set should be clear to me:

    12 + 21 + 35....

    Now i like the fingerprint of the 50lux (and i use it often alone or tegether with the 35), and still I have a nice 90 f2.8 ... Maybe i should buy the 75cron as my "tele" (foollowing your suggestions), and leave both at home?....Another dilemma

    By the way, thank to you all guys, (lovely series Jonathan), this forum looks like really something useful and pleasant!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Maggie O View Post
    I went to Europe with all of my lenses (at the time).

    A 21mm Color-Skopar and a 35mm Ultron.

    It worked out just fine.
    And, I did Alaska last September with my my M8 and my one and only lens - 25mm CV.

    After years of using only a Fujica GS-645S (my Canon F1n and lenses sitting idle) the thought of using only 1 lens was absolutely natural.

    I now have a CV15, which I use second. After that comes a CV 35 2.5 and a CV 50 2.5; both purchased to see what I thought about having multiple lenses. (not really a joke, but sounds like one!)

    You know what? 99% of the time my CV 25 is on the camera. Sometimes I have to leave it at home to force myself to use another lens.

    There really is something in the thought that you should simplify and get down to the real basics to get good photographs. It's tough; we all have GAS when it comes to shiny camera bits.

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    Re: 21-Elmarit - New Dilemma

    Quote Originally Posted by mauribix View Post
    I'm gonna travel this August for a month across these states, and i would like to travel as light as i can, i guess I'd go for a 4 lenses set, but i'd prefer to go with 3, so would you consider the 21(on an M8) a not so wide lens for the kind of situations you're gonna face in your country?
    I'd like to travel with a 21-35-50 kit, but i know that i would maybe miss my CV12 or CV15, and maybe a 90, but a 5 lens kit is just something that i can't bear...
    I have the same dilemma I'm going back to document a Russian village this summer and I need to pack light as possible. I'm thinking the cv12 (so small it doesn't count ) Leica 21, 28 cron, and 35 Lux. The 28 because it stays on my camera and is my preferred focal length, the 21 for wide shots, and the 35 for inside/low light. I worry that I have nothing on the long side. The GRDII will go along as well.
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    Re: 21-Elmarit - New Dilemma

    Any doubts on a Leica 21mm could end right here
    Photography is all about experimentation and without it you will never learn art.

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    But there is no shame in owning a CV12mm. I love this little gem
    Photography is all about experimentation and without it you will never learn art.

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    Re: 21-Elmarit - New Dilemma

    Quote Originally Posted by mwalker View Post
    I have the same dilemma I'm going back to document a Russian village this summer and I need to pack light as possible. I'm thinking the cv12 (so small it doesn't count ) Leica 21, 28 cron, and 35 Lux. The 28 because it stays on my camera and is my preferred focal length, the 21 for wide shots, and the 35 for inside/low light. I worry that I have nothing on the long side. The GRDII will go along as well.
    Mike might want to think 75 Summarit. Small lens and not very expensive and very good to boot.
    Photography is all about experimentation and without it you will never learn art.

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    Re: 21-Elmarit - New Dilemma

    Heading to the Grand Canyon this July. Going with a 21-40-50 combo.
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    Better bring your shorts and a cooler pack for you neck. I'm not joking could be as high as 120 degrees at the bottom. This is not the place you really want to be in July . It's hot here.
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    Re: 21-Elmarit - New Dilemma

    Quote Originally Posted by Guy Mancuso View Post
    Any doubts on a Leica 21mm could end right here
    Yep!
    I truly wanted it, and now I don't regret the choice!

    Still another amazing shot Guy, i really like your work!
    Probably I'm directed towards a 12-21-35-75...
    I've got only one problem: find a nice and cheap 75cron.
    I'd love the 75summarit too, but since it hasn't a collapsible hood the lens leave me somehow stuck in the middle with the decision.
    I know that you split the 90cronA with the new 90summarit, and i really appreciated your tests, but how you feel with the "absence" of a telescopic hood?
    I know that focus is really easier with the new 90 (compared to the AA), is there the same difference between 75's?
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    Great combination. I did take photos of all the 75mm's in the M forum on my test of the 3 75mm's . Let me see if I can find it. On my 90 summarit I just bought a metal hoofd and screwed it on and left it alone no caps. Which you can do also with the 75 summarit and even leica sells a hood with a cap to go with it . Pretty cool idea from leica.
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    Okay found the shots of the 75mm
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    Re: 21-Elmarit - New Dilemma

    Here is the Leica lens hood with cap for it

    http://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/produc...Hood_with.html

    Nice thing about this is the filter is inside the hood
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    Re: 21-Elmarit - New Dilemma

    Faster than Light... i think i'm gonna give some work to my Leica dealer tomorrow... I could be lucky enough to find both Summarit and Summicron 75.. just to know how "I feel " with 'em...Here in Italy we say, it's a matter of skin!
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    Re: 21-Elmarit - New Dilemma

    Quote Originally Posted by Guy Mancuso View Post
    Better bring your shorts and a cooler pack for you neck. I'm not joking could be as high as 120 degrees at the bottom. This is not the place you really want to be in July . It's hot here.
    I'll be there in August... should i bring my coat with me instead?
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    Monsoon season. Great lightning storms bring a rain coat. LOL
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    Re: 21-Elmarit - New Dilemma

    Quote Originally Posted by Guy Mancuso View Post
    Better bring your shorts and a cooler pack for you neck. I'm not joking could be as high as 120 degrees at the bottom. This is not the place you really want to be in July . It's hot here.
    Hot here in Florida too, only moist. There you get baked, here you get steamed. PoTAYto - PoTAHto

    Having said that, I have a vast collection of shorts. And a wide brim hat.
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    Re: 21-Elmarit - New Dilemma

    Quote Originally Posted by Guy Mancuso View Post
    But there is no shame in owning a CV12mm. I love this little gem
    Hello Guy, finally how do you use your CV12?
    coded (as what?) + UV/IR

    or

    uncoded and without UV/IR

    or
    uncoded +UV/IR (and maybe cornerfix?)?

    I can't seem to find my right way.
    I did get the better results with the lens uncoded and without UV/IR, because i find the cornerfix correction's gonna change too much the blue channel, shifting it to a lighter-cyanish form...

    I'm hung up!
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    Re: 21-Elmarit - New Dilemma

    Hi Maurizio,
    I don't filter or code the CV 12 at all. When "the purple ir fabric" hits, I just serlectively de-saturate the color.
    -bob

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    Re: 21-Elmarit - New Dilemma

    same for me . No code or filter. I will switch to Zeiss if i need IR filter
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    Re: 21-Elmarit - New Dilemma

    Quote Originally Posted by Guy Mancuso View Post
    same for me . No code or filter. I will switch to Zeiss if i need IR filter
    Just got my mint 12 from Kurt Kamka today and I can't wait to use it. Love the 15 so now will try the 12 as well. Thought I had gotten rid of GAS but I only change out stuff. Net is probably up! LOL Is there a particular reason you don't code it and use the IR filters? The Milich adapter works the same on the 12 as it did on the 15. Just curious. Guy I have seen many of your 12 images and it doesn't appear to need the coding. Perhaps the best thing would be to use Jamie's profiles in C1 when you do get a magenta banana!

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    Re: 21-Elmarit - New Dilemma

    Woody,
    I don't bother using filters because the in-camera correction for cyan corners is not enough and I don't use cornerfix. So since I don't filter, and I don't find the lens vignetting objectionable, I don't bother coding either.
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    Re: 21-Elmarit - New Dilemma

    Quote Originally Posted by Bob View Post
    Woody,
    I don't bother using filters because the in-camera correction for cyan corners is not enough and I don't use cornerfix. So since I don't filter, and I don't find the lens vignetting objectionable, I don't bother coding either.
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    Thanks Bob

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    Re: 21-Elmarit - New Dilemma

    well, here are two more.
    these are the VVG mod to Jamie's profiles. MORE than enough opportunity for magenta

    now you see why I just don't use the filters

    BTW, the adjustment for the Tux kept the tie and c-bund the right red!

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    Re: 21-Elmarit - New Dilemma

    Victor - only in teh US will you ever see peopel wearing ORANGE pants..hahahahahwhat style!!

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    My guess its not the US but Germany....see the phones and street signs in the background

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    Quote Originally Posted by glenerrolrd View Post
    My guess its not the US but Germany....see the phones and street signs in the background
    It is probably not a fashion anyway. My guess is he just escaped from prison and didn't have time to change out of his jumpsuit!

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    Quote Originally Posted by PeterA View Post
    Victor - only in teh US will you ever see peopel wearing ORANGE pants..hahahahahwhat style!!
    1. Salzburg!
    2. McLean, Va (Chez nous)

    (pants left over from a "Magic Flute" production, likely!)

    PS: With filter, the pants are cyan

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    I want a piece of that cake
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    Quote Originally Posted by woodyspedden View Post
    It is probably not a fashion anyway. My guess is he just escaped from prison and didn't have time to change out of his jumpsuit!

    Woody
    Might he be that guy with a cigar.....?

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