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    Well i made a switch from my Elinchroms and bought 3 D1 500 watt lights to replace them. I have yet to REALLY shoot with them yet and I am still figuring out groups and i will which i did not do yet was have 2 lights on the same time but I would imagine one would just go automatically into Group A the other Group B. Am i assuming that is correct.

    I did try my flash synch up to 1/1600 and at full power I can get up to 1/1200 without any light loss and at 1/1600 maybe a 1/2 loss. Which is amazing

    Just wondering if anyone had any tips /tricks they could share with me as i get used to them. Love the air remote and very excited about these.

    Also I bought a kit and the bag is not bad but I'm looking for something in a roller that would handle all 3 lights, stands and softboxes. I want it all in one case. Been looking around but maybe someone found the perfect case and i sure would like to know what that is but I want a roller.
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    Let me know when you have found that bag! I now use my Elinchrom softbags which carries 2 lights each. I find that a really good bag, it has not too much padding and stores the lights, modifier, cables and some small stuff. No roller though.

    I use the D1's and have placed them in group A towards D (I have 4). I like the AIR system but still think it is somewhat funky. I have one transceiver that acts up a bit apparently so that might be the culprit.

    What I did notice is that the 500watt from the D1 seems to be more light than the 600watts from my Elinchrom 600RX. I wonder if you will have the same experience.

    Besides that I find them pretty much the same as my 600RX's in usage, light output quality is much nicer IMO. They also beep softer (which is nice if you like the beep but not too loud. I know, all the silly small stuff that keeps you busy). I like the ability to turn them off with the AIR module and on but it does seem that the fans in the blocks keep spinning. The big test was the RTFM test. Anything I can unpack and start using immediately without having to revert to a manual passes a very important test for me.

    All in all, I have used the Acute heads more often sofar. When my on-location season starts I will use the D1's more often. Which is when the real test begins

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    Quote Originally Posted by Guy Mancuso View Post
    Well i made a switch from my Elinchroms and bought 3 D1 500 watt lights to replace them. I have yet to REALLY shoot with them yet and I am still figuring out groups and i will which i did not do yet was have 2 lights on the same time but I would imagine one would just go automatically into Group A the other Group B. Am i assuming that is correct.

    I did try my flash synch up to 1/1600 and at full power I can get up to 1/1200 without any light loss and at 1/1600 maybe a 1/2 loss. Which is amazing

    Just wondering if anyone had any tips /tricks they could share with me as i get used to them. Love the air remote and very excited about these.

    Also I bought a kit and the bag is not bad but I'm looking for something in a roller that would handle all 3 lights, stands and softboxes. I want it all in one case. Been looking around but maybe someone found the perfect case and i sure would like to know what that is but I want a roller.
    Guy, did you discuss in another thread your rationale for switching from Elinchrom to the Profoto D1s? As an Elinchrom user, I'd be *very* interested to know. Profoto has taken a fair amount of abuse over the recessed flashtube design of the D1 and I was wondering if you had considered and discarded that design flaw/feature when deciding to make the move. I think they'd have been wise to retain the Compact head design. Did you also get the OPTIONAL frosted dome for using the D1s in a softbox?

    Enjoy the D1s. I was sorely tempted myself but that darned recessed flashtube ...

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    I was all Elinchrom as well (RX generators, Style RX600's, Ranger AS & Quadra's), did fear the same thing with the flat opal glass on the D1. It turned out to be much less of a problem than I anticipated. Nevertheless, I will order some of the frosted domes. If only to compare. Apparently with the frosted domes the D1 behaves the same as the Compacts.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dustbak View Post
    Nevertheless, I will order some of the frosted domes. If only to compare. Apparently with the frosted domes the D1 behaves the same as the Compacts.
    I have D1 Air 500s with the additional domes...help for certain modifiers...like the Beauty Dish. The domes were designed to mimic the light output patter of the older Compacts...keep the folks happy. They are a little fussy to install but after you get the hang of it ... 2 minutes max...and that includes opening the boxes etc.

    Otherwise with and without ... just gorgeous light.

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    Bob, do you have any idea how much light the domes absorb? When I was considering the D1s, I worried that the domes might steal a full stop of light turning the 500Ws monolights into, effectively, 250Ws monolights.

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    Dave,

    I am sorry but I do not know the answer to your question...however as both the flat cover and the dome are similarly frosted I think the loss is not greatly significant. Just from the exposures I have done ... not A/B measurements.

    I did a search with Google and on Profoto's site without success. The product number I have is Profoto 101561....

    I cannot say anything bad about the design or implementation of the system...other than an occasional difficulty making the D1 Air remote work on a hotshoe...I needed to use a sync cable previously with my H3D II. Not a big deal when you have the correct cable. I have not trialled it yet on my Leica S2-P but assume it will work with one or the other.

    I do like the "zoom" function of the heads...you can adjust the depth of insertion into the light modifier to change shape and output of light.

    Again, two 500s seem adequate...but I will probably add a 1000 at some point to cover more possible setups.

    Sorry that I am not able to specifically address your inquiry.

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    Quote Originally Posted by docmoore View Post
    Dave,

    I am sorry but I do not know the answer to your question...however as both the flat cover and the dome are similarly frosted I think the loss is not greatly significant. Just from the exposures I have done ... not A/B measurements.

    I did a search with Google and on Profoto's site without success. The product number I have is Profoto 101561....

    I cannot say anything bad about the design or implementation of the system...other than an occasional difficulty making the D1 Air remote work on a hotshoe...I needed to use a sync cable previously with my H3D II. Not a big deal when you have the correct cable. I have not trialled it yet on my Leica S2-P but assume it will work with one or the other.

    I do like the "zoom" function of the heads...you can adjust the depth of insertion into the light modifier to change shape and output of light.

    Again, two 500s seem adequate...but I will probably add a 1000 at some point to cover more possible setups.

    Sorry that I am not able to specifically address your inquiry.

    Bob
    Thanks much for the reply, Bob. An entry on the Profoto blog reports a 6/10-stop light loss when using the frosted dome with the D1. That's certainly not insignificant. However, judging by the photos accompanying the article, it would appear that the dome really should be used with softboxes and, perhaps, beauty dishes:

    http://blog.profoto-usa.com/?p=1642

    Without the dome in place, the central "hot zone" is very apparent.

    I dunno; the D1s do seem like an attractive option but the need to spend an additional $150 per dome to allow the lights to perform optimally in commonly used modifiers remains a difficult psychological hurdle for me to overcome.

    Dave F.

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    Re: Profoto D1 Thoughts

    I looked these over a while back and decided against. I use Elinchrom pack and head lights, the rx1200s and prefer that style over the monos.
    The Profoto series 8 packs look very nice but very pricy and really I have been very happy with the elinchroms.
    With the D1s I didn't like their looks or their build quality or the optional domey thing which you need for basic good light spread with a number of modifiers. The annoying elinchrom fitting is only sort of annoying and granted it can be improved and the profoto system for fixing modifiers is nicer, but the best value by far remained what I have,
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    It seems a bit of one does one thing better then the other . Shorter flash duration with the elinchrom and a more compact body for the elicnhrom 600 rx vs the d1 but faster recycle and most seem to agree better quality of light with the profoto. One other thing I like about the 600 is the shorter body. I have the rx 1200 pack and a 2400 digital 11[ pack and two rx 600 for my more compact unit. I do dream of the profoto 2400 air. but I wish the body of the profoto was shorter. I guess I will stay where I am. But both beat the hell out of my old balcars.
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    Re: Profoto D1 Thoughts

    Are there any other Profoto quality of light options giving 1000 w/s in a two head setup other than the D1's at a similar or cheaper price point?
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    You could look at an Acute2 1200 which can be bought fairly cheap. These are not fast but certainly do have Profoto quality of light. These are probably your cheapest options. Another possibility is to look for the model preceding the D1's, the Compact, which also sells pretty cheap.

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    From what I am told the D1 will work with enough coverage in the medium size softboxes like 3x4 it should cover just fine . For the larger stuff maybe the dome would spread the light out more. Lots of things I like about them really fast sync speeds with my DF body at full power I can go up to 1/1200 of a second without any light loss using the air remote which also is very nice and has lots of control with them . I do like the mount much better and also I do like the modeling and flash tube are protected from getting sheared off . One nice thing is no big cover need as well which takes up room. Just a small cap and your having less stuff in the bag.

    Love the controls on the head and do like the mounting to stands. Still need to get more use from them but so far I really like them. The big issue for me as well is I can rent Profoto from 2 places in town and also around the world. So if I need to light a big set than everything i own blends with everything I rent. So for me have a nice basic 3 light kit than when called upon rent everything else. Than all the remotes work together and such. The light also looks very nice which is a huge plus.
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    Re: Profoto D1 Thoughts

    Quote Originally Posted by Ben Rubinstein View Post
    Are there any other Profoto quality of light options giving 1000 w/s in a two head setup other than the D1's at a similar or cheaper price point?
    I use a pair of Profoto 600R Compacts Ben. Standard Pocket Wizard triggering ... but in studio I have just hardwired one of them and use the optical trigger on the other if I need a higher sync speed than the PW provides.

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    Re: Profoto D1 Thoughts

    Guy, do keep us up to date with your experiences.

    I've held back on moving to the D1 system with AIR for the time being. No burning need. However, it is probably going to happen eventually since I have a ton of Profoto mount modifiers ... so your take on it will be invaluable.

    Thanks,

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    Thanks Marc . Just ordered this HUGE Tamrac case and hopefully soon get out and bang on these some. Like you my idea is all those modifiers i can rent so easily here in town as two places rent Profoto so my resources using them grew a lot over the Elinchroms which nobody rents here
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    Thought I would update at least the bag. Took a chance and bought one of these
    http://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/search...tialSearch=yes

    Huge lighting case I can fit all three D1 heads and cables , 2 speedrings , 2 softboxes , 3 light stands , one gitzo tripod, gels , firewire and duct tape plus remote. So basically the whole shooting match its big and its heavy but I like it. Its all in one bag and on skate rollers. So I can roll that and just a camera bag instead of three bags . One nice part is I go through a lot of security at companies and its a easy lift the lid and softboxes and stands and clearly see what is inside. I can't tell you how much hassle that is sometimes

    I did the Touareg test and i can lift it in. LOL Biggest hurdle right there
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    I have recently bought the glass domes for the D1's. I must say, for some modifiers these domes are a necessity.

    The 5ft Giant (and the other Giants I suppose) perform much better with the dome attached.

    Initially I thought leaving on the dome but with the dome I need to put a cover on the light. The standard covers make the light so long it will no longer fit in my nice case I have to find something to solve that thing.

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    Re: Profoto D1 Thoughts

    Any more experience with these that you all would like to share?

    I'm thinking of picking up one or two monos in a few weeks and am struggling between the elinchrom and D1 units. I like the D1 better, but still am on the fence. I think the 500's would be sufficient for me, but the 1000s would be really nice.

    Do the D1 monos accept any other manufacturer's modifiers?

    I know nothing about profoto, but I'm about to sell off my remaining 35mm stuff (I think) to finance an RZ and some monos... I want good lights this time.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Shelby Lewis View Post
    Any more experience with these that you all would like to share?

    I'm thinking of picking up one or two monos in a few weeks and am struggling between the elinchrom and D1 units. I like the D1 better, but still am on the fence. I think the 500's would be sufficient for me, but the 1000s would be really nice.

    Do the D1 monos accept any other manufacturer's modifiers?

    I know nothing about profoto, but I'm about to sell off my remaining 35mm stuff (I think) to finance an RZ and some monos... I want good lights this time.
    Hi Shelby,

    I just advised a fellow in Texas on lighting and we carefully determined what lights to get based on his specific applications ... with an eye to more versatile use later as he grows to better understand lighting (which I am teaching him).

    At first, I thought he would be okay with Elinchrom ... Quadra battery units and monos, and we also looked at Hensel ... but we ended up selecting Profoto for him: 2 Acute B600 AIRs and a D1 1000 kit. I also recommended he get the D1 domes mentioned above including the -600K version.

    What is interesting about the difference between the D1/500s and the 1,000s is that they are the same size ... the 1,000s are about 1lb heavier. In past that was not true with the Profoto Compact Monos. IMO, if you can swing it, get the 1,000 kit you'd be amazed how quickly you can run out of light with certain applications and certain light modifiers.

    I vastly prefer Profoto over Elinchrom (which were my first serious lights). For one thing, the mount is much more secure compared to Elinchrom. IMO, this is also true with Hensel lighting, the mounts are much more secure.

    FYI, the D1 monos take Elinchrom light modifiers by using an adapter offer by Profoto. I use an Elinchrom 7' Octabox and Gobo box with my Profoto lights.

    All other 3rd party light modifer makers offer mounts for Profoto (or any other major lights). One of my favorite softbox makers is Plume ... I have 2 giant Plume Wafer softboxes in my studio. I use them with my Profoto lights.

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    Thanks Marc... I was afraid you'd say that.

    The 1000's have caught my eye, but I might have to start with a single light if I go that route (due to cost). Most of what I have planned for this year would work just fine with 1 light and a slew of reflectors, so that's no prob... or if I shoot in bright daylight, I'd just use the sun as my 2nd light, reflectors for fill.

    The whole mount issue was one I've seen people complain about with elinchrom, and TBH, is one that's bothered me. I've also seen folks say that the light out of the Profotos is somehow nicer as well. I don't have the experience with them to substantiate this, but it seems to be a common consensus.

    I actually like the idea of a slightly heavier mono as I like to put heavier modifiers on from time to time... the quadras we're always out of the equation for me due to the overall lightness of the kit. Sounds crazy, I know...

    Thanks!

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    Hi Shelby,

    I just advised a fellow in Texas on lighting and we carefully determined what lights to get based on his specific applications ... with an eye to more versatile use later as he grows to better understand lighting (which I am teaching him).

    At first, I thought he would be okay with Elinchrom ... Quadra battery units and monos, and we also looked at Hensel ... but we ended up selecting Profoto for him: 2 Acute B600 AIRs and a D1 1000 kit. I also recommended he get the D1 domes mentioned above including the -600K version.

    What is interesting about the difference between the D1/500s and the 1,000s is that they are the same size ... the 1,000s are about 1lb heavier. In past that was not true with the Profoto Compact Monos. IMO, if you can swing it, get the 1,000 kit you'd be amazed how quickly you can run out of light with certain applications and certain light modifiers.

    I vastly prefer Profoto over Elinchrom (which were my first serious lights). For one thing, the mount is much more secure compared to Elinchrom. IMO, this is also true with Hensel lighting, the mounts are much more secure.

    FYI, the D1 monos take Elinchrom light modifiers by using an adapter offer by Profoto. I use an Elinchrom 7' Octabox and Gobo box with my Profoto lights.

    All other 3rd party light modifer makers offer mounts for Profoto (or any other major lights). One of my favorite softbox makers is Plume ... I have 2 giant Plume Wafer softboxes in my studio. I use them with my Profoto lights.

    -Marc

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    Pffff...

    This is something people might want to take into consideration. I recently had my D4R upgraded towards the Air system (D4Air). I did so after the promise I would have the advantage of the full Air system.

    Boy this is turning out the be a disaster. I used to only use Profoto Studio Air software. I tried the 'new Profoto Studio 3' software but I found it to be total crap. I could control my entire D4 with the Studio Air software via an USB cable. After the upgrade the Studio Air software does not work anymore with the D4. I can only use Studio 3. The downside of this is that Studio 3 (though it is newer) can only turn the generator on or off and it can adjust all the lights at once (no more control per light). It is also impossible to do things like sequences or delays, you now have to do that manually on the generator!!

    The AirUSB module is very expensive, the least one might expect is added functionality. It works great with D1's when using Profoto Studio Air.

    I certainly hope the software is still a work in progress and will be improved with added functionality especially for something like the D4 which is used mostly by people in studios that would benefit from software control.

    Edit: I found the way how to control the lights separately however everything else is not possible in Studio 3.

    All in all, this is not at the level one expects, it certainly is at a professional price level. Hopefully the functionality will follow soon together with a less crippled and dated GUI!
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    "Lots of things I like about them really fast sync speeds with my DF body at full power I can go up to 1/1200 of a second without any light loss using the air remote which also is very nice and has lots of control with them ."

    Guy, from the spec of Profoto Air Remote Transceiver for the Pro 8a Air Power Pack, I see the following spec:

    Maximum Flash Synchronization Speed

    1/250 s (focal plane)
    1/500 s (leaf shutter)
    1/1000 s in fast mode (depending on camera)

    Do you mind to explain how you achieve 1/1200 of a second?

    Thanks,

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    I would assume he accomplished that fast sync speed by using a Schneider leaf style lens which gets you there.

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    Exactly the 110mm you just got will with the DF sync all the way to 1/1600 of a second it is more a timing issue that Phase has been able to do and I really don't know the technical ins and outs on it but it does work. But the actually speed you can achieve will depend largely on flash duration. You need extremely short duration speeds to do it. The D1 Have very short duration times but this will also depend on output power and may have to dial down slightly to get theses very fast duration times. But yes you also need the air wireless system as well since I think still at this time it's the only transmitter that fast to be able to do it. The V grip as well.
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    I just re-read this thread because I finally picked up a pair of domes for my D1 500 AIRs.

    I just did some comparisons in the studio using my Mola Demi, Euro and Manti. There is no difference, at least by Minolta 5 flash meter, using the flat disc instead of the dome on the meter, between the standard D1 glass disc and the dome. I loose 1/3 stop overall but the fall off from center to edge is EXACTLY the same with the dome.

    The Molas I have all use the glass diffuser. They didn't make that other silly perforated thing when I bought mine 20 years ago.

    I'm going to do more comparisons with the original PF compacts, an Acute head, an Acute Twin head and a Pro 7 head. They all have the glass dome but they differ in the length of the dome due to the type of flash tube.

    I'll could also check the Magnum, narrow beam reflector, Octabank, large Chimeras, Balcar 60' zebra umbrellas and...

    After 30+ years shooting I still love exploring lights. New 5DIII, meh, it's not really about lots of pixels, it about how you light them, IMHO.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kirk Candlish View Post
    I just re-read this thread because I finally picked up a pair of domes for my D1 500 AIRs.

    I just did some comparisons in the studio using my Mola Demi, Euro and Manti. There is no difference, at least by Minolta 5 flash meter, using the flat disc instead of the dome on the meter, between the standard D1 glass disc and the dome. I loose 1/3 stop overall but the fall off from center to edge is EXACTLY the same with the dome.

    The Molas I have all use the glass diffuser. They didn't make that other silly perforated thing when I bought mine 20 years ago.

    I'm going to do more comparisons with the original PF compacts, an Acute head, an Acute Twin head and a Pro 7 head. They all have the glass dome but they differ in the length of the dome due to the type of flash tube.

    I'll could also check the Magnum, narrow beam reflector, Octabank, large Chimeras, Balcar 60' zebra umbrellas and...

    After 30+ years shooting I still love exploring lights. New 5DIII, meh, it's not really about lots of pixels, it about how you light them, IMHO.
    Be interesting to see if there is any difference in a large soft box.

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    There is definitely a difference when I use it with my Giants. I would also be interested in what you find when comparing the D1 to an Acute or ProHead.

    My perception is that the Acute/Proheads are nicer in my Giant than the D1.

    Totally agree on the camera part. A new model doesn't really warm me up anymore, lights and modifiers still do.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dustbak View Post
    There is definitely a difference when I use it with my Giants. I would also be interested in what you find when comparing the D1 to an Acute or ProHead.

    My perception is that the Acute/Proheads are nicer in my Giant than the D1.

    Totally agree on the camera part. A new model doesn't really warm me up anymore, lights and modifiers still do.
    Boy, ain't that the truth ... I stopped with all the new this camera, new that lens, sold a pile of marginal or expensive exotic stuff and put all the cash back into lighting gear ... which gets the adrenaline pumping again with all the possibilities it opens up.

    Lighting makes more difference than 10 or 20 more megs and some semi cool toy function.

    IMO of course ...

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    Re: Profoto D1 Thoughts

    After a little more testing I've found the dome does help with softboxes and large umbrellas.

    With the Chimera Octaplus 3, using the center and front diffusers, the D1 using the standard glass disc had 1.5 stops of fall off from the center to the edge when measured just an inch off the front diffuser. With the dome on the D1 there was 1 stop of fall off. A Profoto compact 300 measured the same 1 stop fall off. At 8' feet from the Octaplus there was .2 stops of fall off measured 3' from center.

    As I went up in size with other umbrellas and softboxes the D1 with the dome was consistently the same as using the other PF style heads.

    So I guess it pays to do a little testing and find out what modifiers need the dome if you're not going to leave it on all the time.

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    Re: Profoto D1 Thoughts

    Quote Originally Posted by Dustbak View Post
    My perception is that the Acute/Proheads are nicer in my Giant than the D1.
    I don't own anything larger than the 84" Octabank and the D1 using the dome measured the same as the compact, Acute and Pro 7 heads with it. In reality I'm not very likely to use the D1 with any modifiers that size so it's kind of a moot point to me.

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    Thanks Kirk. Your testing puts to bed any rumors that the D1 with dome is inferior to the D4/Pro heads and Compacts with glass covers.

    It's pretty easy to swap back and forth ... and I do like the little slip on 5, 10 and 20 grids for the D1's/flat glass for spot illumination on product work.

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    Quote Originally Posted by fotografz View Post
    and I do like the little slip on 5, 10 and 20 grids for the D1's/flat glass for spot illumination on product work.
    I haven't seen those and I don't find them on the Profoto site. Where did you find them ?

    I just bought a couple of the new Zoom reflectors that will hold a grid. I have several sets of Balcar 7" grids that fit them and cost 1/3 of the PF grids.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kirk Candlish View Post
    I haven't seen those and I don't find them on the Profoto site. Where did you find them ?

    I just bought a couple of the new Zoom reflectors that will hold a grid. I have several sets of Balcar 7" grids that fit them and cost 1/3 of the PF grids.
    The D1 grids are listed on the B&H site ... I have the 10 one and am ordering the 5 ... Profoto 5° D1 Honeycomb Grid 100795 B&H Photo Video

    Regarding 7" grids ... yep, waste of money buying the Profoto versions ...

    I also have the Profoto Magnum reflectors, beauty dish and Acute ring-light ... and Honey Grids makes grids for each ... interestingly, they make white and black grids and demo the difference ... plus they offer Mola grids ... and they'll make custom ones to your specs HoneyGrids

    God I love lighting stuff ... it's a bigger black hole that camera gear ever was ...

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    Thanks Marc I had just found the small grids as you were posting.

    I just bought a white grid for a couple of the Molas from HoneyGrids. Haven't had a chance to shoot with them yet. Should be interesting.

    Yeah the lighting gear is the most fun. I also just bought a 10" Desisti fresnel converted with a 4800WS flash tube by Flashclinic.

    It never ends and that's fine with me.

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    Re: Profoto D1 Thoughts

    Thought I'd add a thought to the D1 thread. Is it just me who thinks that the flash tube arrangement where you twist a wire round a metal post is moronic in the extreme? Basically you travel with the light, the wire gets moved out of place and isn't fully touching the post, you get one shot out of 3 or 5 not firing and no idea why. My dealer tells me it's a known problem with the D1. Not hugely well thought out...
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    Huh ?

    I think maybe you need to pack your D1s better when you're traveling. I've been shooting with mine for a couple of years and have never had this problem. Until your post I've never heard of this before. If it was a consistent problem it would be all over the forums.

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    I heard it from my dealer, not making it up. Travelling with the D1 in the box it came in loads of padding.
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    Re: Profoto D1 Thoughts

    Quote Originally Posted by Ben Rubinstein View Post
    I heard it from my dealer, not making it up. Travelling with the D1 in the box it came in loads of padding.
    So one guy tells you it's so and you're convinced.

    I can offer you a great deal on some land in Florida. It's a little damp part of the year but it's got a great view when it's not under water.

    And yes, PF packs their equipment well for shipping. As do most manufacturers shipping expensive things all over the world.

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