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    Quote Originally Posted by fotografz View Post
    Hey Emma. I like the dramatic feel of this. Beautiful model and fun dress.

    In your shot, how did you have the speed-light set into the softbox? I ask because of the hot spot on her camera right arm. Speed-lights can do this sometimes especially if close to the subject, because the light is so concentrated when it hits the soft-box diffuser.

    I also think I may have tried to use something to fill the shadows around her camera right hand ... which have "subjectively" created a sort of webbed finger effect.

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    Hi Marc,

    Thanks for your comments. The Vivatar is attached fairly close to the opening of the small softbox which is also quite close to the model. As I wanted the light focused on her upper body without too much spill I moved it in close which has probably given this hot spot.

    I have since also bought a reflector which will help to fill in some areas. I'm still learning a lot on using strobes and all the possible modifiers. It's very exciting!!

    Will very likely soon invest in a real "studio" strobe and some additional light modifiers ( beauty dish and a bigger softbox).

    To clear some confusion, I made a mistake when subscribing to this site and used emmawest when my name is William:-)

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    Re: OK, enough with the equipment, lets see some lighting!

    Hi William!

    Yeah, working with lighting can be pretty addictive. You are to be lauded for giving it a go. A lot of folks are either intimidated by it, or are put off by bad examples, think ill of it, and never explore.

    What many do not realize is that an incredibly vast majority of imagery seen in the movies, on TV, in publications, posters, billboards and so on ... are artificially lit.

    All the best on your venture into new areas William

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    Thanks Marc.

    I have been using natural light ( or sometimes continuos light from various lamps around the house)for the past 15 years but now feel really motivated to move on to strobed light and all its possibilities.

    The only "problem" is the vast amount of choice in equipment ( and price....). I will start with one head and a few modifiers not too confuse myself too much:-)

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    Re: OK, enough with the equipment, lets see some lighting!

    Wil, IMO, you can't go wrong with Paul C. Buff lighting gear for average applications where you aren't pounding out shot-after-shot. Lots of choice, but not so intimidating that you can't get to an answer for what you want to accomplish.

    I'd bet they are the biggest seller for folks like you for portraits and such, and many wedding shooters also use their strobes. Good product, USA based so you can get answers when you need them, and lots of relatively inexpensive modifiers to play with.

    Google them and take a look when you are ready.

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    Re: OK, enough with the equipment, lets see some lighting!

    Hey

    Funny you mention Paul Buff. In fact, I was looking at getting the Einstein 640 with a vagabond mini so I can use it outside as well. Iim also quite tempted by one of the PLM modifiers as well.

    I don't live in the USA unfortunately but I have a friend who will do the shopping for me. Their UK store is close but I will pay double the price...

    As you seem to know quite a lot of lightning, could you recommend a good light stand/ boom arm ? There are quite a lot of different models/prices and I would like to get something fairly sturdy. Don't mind paying a bit more.

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    Re: OK, enough with the equipment, lets see some lighting!

    Any of the Matthews or Manfrotto Avenger stands and boom arms would be good choices. Don't know the availability of those brands where you are.

    How heavy duty depends on a couple of things:

    1) How portable you might want it. In my studio I use mostly Matthews or Avenger Century stands (C Stands) because they can be set right next to one another, where the conventional ones cannot ... but while they fold, they are not as compact as regular ones that fold down and fit in a carrying bag.

    2) How much weight will you have out at the end, and how far of an extension you think you'll need. Mono heads like the 640 weigh more than a pack head, because everything is self-contained ... in this case almost 5lbs ... add a light modifier and it's 7 to 10 lbs ... extend a boom out over someone's head and that starts getting to be enough weight to bow a wimpy boom arm.

    Hope you don't have to pay $1,000 for an Einstein + $ for the radio, reflector and some case. For $1,700. you can get a complete 1000 w/s Hensel studio in a rolling case ... which MAY be less where you live since Hensel is a German product.

    Hensel Integra Pro Plus 500 Two Monolight Kit 7048815SW B&H

    Best of luck,

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    Re: OK, enough with the equipment, lets see some lighting!

    Lovely

    Why so much light, though? It could be done with one octa fitted head and one sunbounce.

    Quote Originally Posted by jusu View Post
    Two ranger rx with three flash heads. Two octas, one with 130 and one with 100 deep. One bare behind.



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    Re: OK, enough with the equipment, lets see some lighting!

    I thought I would be back here sooner, but work got in the way
    Here are two from a shoot last year in Miami,
    first one is just a Profoto ring light, sun and some foam core

    this one is a mix of available, a very small box for fill and a straight reflector head as the main going through the window from the balcony

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    one more, again with the Profoto ringlight along with side lighting
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    4x5 Ektachrome with a shortish lens. One brolly for background, one brolly for keylight just to left of camera, one tiny strobe on camera for fill (3 stops under).
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    Re: OK, enough with the equipment, lets see some lighting!

    Nice.

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    Re: OK, enough with the equipment, lets see some lighting!

    Marc, thanks. Same setup; Key brolly a bit further off and she's pointing her nose into it. Basic principle: One source only and if you really have to fill, keep it 3 0r 4 stops under.
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    Re: OK, enough with the equipment, lets see some lighting!

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    4x5 Ektachrome with a shortish lens.
    So her hand being sharp while her face is out is intentional ?

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    Same setup; Key brolly a bit further off and she's pointing her nose into it.
    Again, forward focused.

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    Re: OK, enough with the equipment, lets see some lighting!

    Focus? Thats 'gear' - Wer'e in 'lighting' here. Anyway there's a silk stocking on the lens.

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    Re: OK, enough with the equipment, lets see some lighting!

    More, If the lighting is any good you can't see it.
    Here's a studio shot and a location shot where the lighting is visible
    First, with movie fresnels for a 1960's corny look.
    Second, with two umbrellas and some smoke.





    Here, I hope it is invisible.



    The principle is: One source only, ever. Detach the edges of stuff by shifting it around. That the real job.
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    Re: OK, enough with the equipment, lets see some lighting!

    Nice work!

    Yep, make it as invisible as possible is usually, but not always the goal.

    I've posted these in the Leica S2 section, but they are more appropriate here.

    Bridal shots on stairs: the ambient was very uneven lighting ... the background washed out with strongly dappled hot spots ... stairs/subject in shadow ... underexposed ambient and used a 600B @ 320w/s with a gold-toned Profoto Octa positioned camera left to light subject, and added on-camera TTL speed-light fill with a Craslon Prodigy diffuser oriented camera right.

    The Calder sculpture shot was very low light, camera on mono-pod, dragged the shutter to pick-up the background ambient and added 600w/s oriented camera right... added TTL speed-light fill oriented camera left @ +2 comp.

    One mobile strobe and TTL speed-light is all I can usually manage at a hectic wedding.

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    Re: OK, enough with the equipment, lets see some lighting!

    Here are some from me, all the lighting details can be found on flickr.

    A majority of these are Profoto, with some Dynalite mixed in as well.

    I believe pretty much all of these involve either my mola Setti or Demi beauty dish as well.


    LeeAnna Vamp by RickrPhoto, on Flickr


    Lauren Calaway - The Orange Dress by RickrPhoto, on Flickr


    Haley Tipton - Gladlash by RickrPhoto, on Flickr


    Lauren Calaway by RickrPhoto, on Flickr


    Nancy Beverly by RickrPhoto, on Flickr


    Tom Ford #2 by RickrPhoto, on Flickr


    Minerva Mendez by RickrPhoto, on Flickr


    LeeAnna Vamp + Minerva Mendez by RickrPhoto, on Flickr


    Kira Dihktyar by RickrPhoto, on Flickr


    Kira Dikhtyar Rooftop by RickrPhoto, on Flickr


    Haley Nicole Tipton by RickrPhoto, on Flickr

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    Re: OK, enough with the equipment, lets see some lighting!

    Home-made halogen window light in use. Test shot with a Leica M8.

    Same subject, new background set up for definitive shot on 4x5.

    Final.
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    Quote Originally Posted by downstairs View Post
    I absolutely LOVE the lighting in this shot!

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    Re: OK, enough with the equipment, lets see some lighting!

    One flash head, one reflector for fill and some of the light bounced off the ceiling.

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    Re: OK, enough with the equipment, lets see some lighting!

    One fron my side..


    One soft box from side and reflector, another softbox from back. And one light for the background.
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    Just an example of simple light setup I use sometimes for headshots. No make up or retouch on this sample image.


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    It's not always a glamourous job in the studio.


    This set up works fine for bigger objects, even if the have a glossy surface. Just watch out for reflection.
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    Re: OK, enough with the equipment, lets see some lighting!

    With that huge octobox I'm not surprised
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    Mola setti


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    Re: OK, enough with the equipment, lets see some lighting!

    Quote Originally Posted by johnnygoesdigital View Post
    Hensel beauty dish...
    ?????????

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    Re: OK, enough with the equipment, lets see some lighting!

    Something a bit different to all those beautiful girls....... beautifully machined chunks of metal.

    Couple of Profoto AcuteB2 600 Air's (that I'm in Love with ) and a Vivitar 285.

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    Re: OK, enough with the equipment, lets see some lighting!

    Not incredibly sophisticated but a lesson to the class I teach about how you can manipulate light outside of a studio and with basic equipment. Bit of black cloth. Bare strobe camera right behind the subject using a blue plastic paper holder as gel. A small umbrella box camera left and low for fill on the face. Oh and half a bucket of cold water! The student in the image was a hero in my book for volunteering in the first place but also for that ice cool expression even as the water hit her!


    and a self portrait to finish, two softboxes on white sheet:

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    Re: OK, enough with the equipment, lets see some lighting!

    [QUOTE=Ben Rubinstein;461739]Not incredibly sophisticated but a lesson to the class I teach about how you can manipulate light outside of a studio and with basic equipment. Bit of black cloth. Bare strobe camera right behind the subject using a blue plastic paper holder as gel. A small umbrella box camera left and low for fill on the face. Oh and half a bucket of cold water! The student in the image was a hero in my book for volunteering in the first place but also for that ice cool expression even as the water hit her!


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    Very well done from where I stand - you are right it looks like trick photography she is so passive.

    All I need now is a willing model.


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    Re: OK, enough with the equipment, lets see some lighting!

    Have to admit I'm getting fed up of people claiming I've photoshopped it. It's not even complicated lighting. Digital has a lot to answer for and laziness to learn what is possible without photoshop is one of them.
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    Re: OK, enough with the equipment, lets see some lighting!

    Elinchrom RX300/ beauty dish
    Elinchrom dlite for background.

    and a nice big white backdrop


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    Re: OK, enough with the equipment, lets see some lighting!

    Quote Originally Posted by emmawest72 View Post
    Elinchrom RX300/ beauty dish
    Elinchrom dlite for background.

    and a nice big white backdrop


    I'm a big fan of lots of negative space. Did this shoot for a client who saw my self portrait above and wanted a similar concept for her new album cover. I decided that rather than doing just a self portrait I would try and outline her in the shape of an instrument alongside the instruments she actually uses in the album.

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    Re: OK, enough with the equipment, lets see some lighting!

    First night of Chanukah, had 3 of my students over for the candle lighting. Decided to give an impromptu demonstration of how easy it was to control light and shadow to create an image. Sheet of A4 paper, flashlight, blue gel and a 1 second exposure to give this image of a spinning Dreidel. Their end of semester show has the theme 'light and dark' and they are panicking a bit. Not sure why, for photography the theme couldn't have been easier!

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    Re: OK, enough with the equipment, lets see some lighting!

    OK, I'll play.

    This is my Mad Science portrait (some of you will have seen this already).


    Mad Science by Carlos Echenique, on Flickr

    This was shot entirely with one light. Multiple photos, but one light overhead.

    This shot of my daughter was done with a Metz 58 AF-1 with a 24" softbox in TTL mode. The sofbox was just off camera left.


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    Re: OK, enough with the equipment, lets see some lighting!

    Those are very well done Gareth. I've done a fair amount of industrial photography in past, and can appreciate what it takes to pull off location shots like yours.

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    Re: OK, enough with the equipment, lets see some lighting!

    Thanks for the kind comments Marc.

    Yes, industrial photography can be quite challenging with often very dangerous, dirty and cramped conditions. With so much manufacturing going to China/India etc its and area of photography that is not what it used to be, however a subject matter I enjoy photographing very much.

    A couple more shots from a shoot just before Christmas.




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    Just one umbrella does it all - very close in, with a piece of cardboard feathering the left side.
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    Re: OK, enough with the equipment, lets see some lighting!

    D700/ 85mm
    Profoto D1 500 air / RFI 2x3 softbox as you can see :-)
    Portrait of me by one of my sons.


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    Re: OK, enough with the equipment, lets see some lighting!

    Just got an adapter cable to connect my Sony HVL-F60M to a PocketWizard III. The cable has the Minolta style hotshoe and I mounted the speedlight with shoe adapter that came with it. Sounds like a kludge but it works well. Mind you this is manual flash only. Here is a shot of the rig:


    The Rig by Carlos Echenique, on Flickr

    and here are some samples shot with it:


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    It took Carlos 7 tries to keep a straight face/not mug the camera. Mel got it in one try.
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    Re: OK, enough with the equipment, lets see some lighting!

    One umbrella pointed up and across. Easy feather!
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    Re: OK, enough with the equipment, lets see some lighting!

    Gridded beauty dish, a 1/4 stop silk, a gridded reflector for the hair light, and a gobo projector.

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    Re: OK, enough with the equipment, lets see some lighting!

    Quote Originally Posted by downstairs View Post
    One umbrella pointed up and across. Easy feather!
    What gorgeous tonality!
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    Re: OK, enough with the equipment, lets see some lighting!

    So I finally started a new project that I've had in mind for a long while. Called 'Who am I', the project is a response to the past decade of wedding photography where I told people to look in a specific direction, or at each other or at the camera, it was always posed, even the PJ stuff was about as 'real' as a politicians smile and handshake, just never going to be as relaxed as if it wasn't a big occasion. I wanted to do something different, I wanted to capture real thought so I came up with the 'Who am I' project. Sitting a subject down I tell them to look anywhere but me and think. Who are you. Really. The answer has to be a single word. Sum up your personality and being in a single word. It's difficult. Purposely so. I want them to forget me, forget the world, to really get lost in thought and to allow me to capture the real thoughts as they happen.

    Lighting is the modelling light of a strobe into a 45" umbrella box camera left and not too high. White background. Canon 50L shot wide open for the vignetting and specific smooth look. I'm using modelling light cause it's far less distracting than flash popping while you think and also I find the light has a very different feel to it, far less 'clean'.

    These were two of my students. I want to spread this project out over a wide age range, I think the contrast in captured thought will be fascinating. I also think that starting with 18 year olds will have been eye opening. I have a feeling that everything else will be a disappointment as I shoot varying levels of self delusion and shields built up over many years. These kids will be my purest subjects methinks.


    Shira - Emotional


    Talia - Messy
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    Website: http://www.timelessjewishart.com

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    Ciao,
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    Re: OK, enough with the equipment, lets see some lighting!

    New guy here and thought I'd jump in to the lighting section partly as a way to introduce myself. I'm a commercial food photographer and here's an example of a recent project that required shooting a large variety of drinks in an equally large variety of glass shapes for a national restaurant chain's drink menu. The set was conceived to be somewhat flexible in nature so as to be able to keep a 'production line' type of workflow, tweaking as needed along the way. We averaged 10-12 drinks in a day. Valeo 22 on a Cambo 23 Ultima.



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    Re: OK, enough with the equipment, lets see some lighting!

    Finally I'm on semester break and that means I can work more on my personal stuff. This shoot I did couple of weeks ago. Using 4 lights, 2 broncolor litos with para88 as the main light and beauty dish with cap as the fill in and 2 litos head at the back with P70 reflector gridded as the kickers.

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    Re: OK, enough with the equipment, lets see some lighting!

    Quote Originally Posted by emmawest72 View Post
    Elinchrom RX300/ beauty dish
    Elinchrom dlite for background.

    and a nice big white backdrop


    Very nice - reminds me of Arnold Newman - I mean that as the highest form of praise

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    Re: OK, enough with the equipment, lets see some lighting!

    I'm completely humbled by the samples posted here. Being an abject newb to lighting, and having just bought a single CheetahLight CL-180, here's one of my first attempts, single light:


    20130615-041-Web by Mike Tuomey, on Flickr

    Criticisms are very welcome. Thanks for looking.
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