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    MF Upper body workout

    I shot five hours yesterday with the Phamiya /P45+/150 2.8 and an L bracket (which I was too lazy to take off)
    My right biceps and shoulder this morning feel the pain.
    Now I should repeat today shooting leftie.
    This is definitely an area where the S2 will be at a disadvantage.
    Once this gets comfortable, then one needs to upgrade to a heavier camera.
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    I am looking at 2 16 hour days starting tomorrow morning. I can feel the pain now
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    Re: MF Upper body workout

    Okay I get it. This is the "excuse" thread where we all post plausible justifications for buying into the S2 system...



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    Re: MF Upper body workout

    My back suffers a lot but honestly, i end up carrying more weight with my DSLR 35mm system -- since i tend to carry more lenses.

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    Re: MF Upper body workout

    Hey Guy----I hear that the P40+ feels lighter than the P30+....


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    Re: MF Upper body workout

    Quote Originally Posted by mark1958 View Post
    My back suffers a lot but honestly, i end up carrying more weight with my DSLR 35mm system -- since i tend to carry more lenses.
    That's because you have that 600 f4 IS in that bag!
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    Re: MF Upper body workout

    When shooting for long periods I like to use the RRS MH-01 w/ a Manfrotto 681 monopod. And when shooting lenses longer than 80mm, using the monopod set-up significantly increases my keeper rate. The only downside is not being able to rotate the camera into portrait orientation.


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    Phamiya /P45+/150 2.8
    *******
    What is the weight with batteries...~2.2kg???

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    2.88 kilo by my scale
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    Quote Originally Posted by John Black View Post
    When shooting for long periods I like to use the RRS MH-01 w/ a Manfrotto 681 monopod. And when shooting lenses longer than 80mm, using the monopod set-up significantly increases my keeper rate. The only downside is not being able to rotate the camera into portrait orientation.
    John,
    If you are using a longer lens that has a collar, mounting the monopod to that collar foot solves the problem. I actually put the collar back onto my 70-200 at times when I want to use the monopod to steady things, and I just rotate the camera and lens inside the collar. This is the "normal" way I shoot with the 400 f2.8L IS, as there is little chance of every holding it up for more than a shot or two.

    LJ

    P.S. This is where that Leaf rotating sensor comes in handy, or the Sinar rotating back. Hoping some of that tech remains or gets spilled over to Phase for folks. For the S2, the issue is going to be using a QR clamp on the RRS part in order to quickly shift from horizontal to vertical, but you still have to unmount and remount the camera.....it is just quicker with the lever release.
    Last edited by LJL; 20th September 2009 at 12:45.

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    Re: MF Upper body workout

    Or you can just get lazy, and for the "other" orientation, pretend that the sensor is square and just crop off the edges.
    -bob

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    I sold that a long time ago. I have the 500mm but i am not even including that one in the equation. With the Hassy, I travel with the 28,80, 35-90, and 210 with 1.7xTC and the 1.5HTS. A few extension tubes and a ND filters.

    Quote Originally Posted by Jack Flesher View Post
    That's because you have that 600 f4 IS in that bag!

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    2.88 kilo by my scale
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    Not that bad...Now I got the scales out and weighted some camera gear. Nikon D-300 +MB10 vertical grip + 24-70 lens= 2.51 kg. Hassy CWD+winder +prism=3.3kg

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    +CZ 180 f/4

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    Re: MF Upper body workout

    As one gets older - one appreciates the steadiness of a tripod when matched to heavy high megapixel tanks - irrepesective of format.

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    Re: MF Upper body workout

    Quote Originally Posted by kdphotography View Post
    Hey Guy----I hear that the P40+ feels lighter than the P30+....

    That's just silly propaganda.

    But on a per pixel basis...

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    Quote Originally Posted by dougpetersonci View Post
    That's just silly propaganda.
    Not at all! The main weight reduction is in the wallet...
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    Quote Originally Posted by dougpetersonci View Post
    That's just silly propaganda.

    But on a per pixel basis...
    The P65+ is even lighter that the P40+!

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    Re: MF Upper body workout

    Wimps.


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    Re: MF Upper body workout

    I solved the problem.... I have a 2 yr old daughter, at over 30lbs now (or pushing 14 kilo's...) that's a workout...!

    I go shooting with my MFDB gear for a rest....!

    With kid number two due in Feb.... they are going to be way more expensive than the 'light as a feather' P65+ and S2 combo..

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    Quote Originally Posted by LJL View Post
    John,
    If you are using a longer lens that has a collar, mounting the monopod to that collar foot solves the problem. I actually put the collar back onto my 70-200 at times when I want to use the monopod to steady things, and I just rotate the camera and lens inside the collar. This is the "normal" way I shoot with the 400 f2.8L IS, as there is little chance of every holding it up for more than a shot or two.

    LJ

    P.S. This is where that Leaf rotating sensor comes in handy, or the Sinar rotating back. Hoping some of that tech remains or gets spilled over to Phase for folks. For the S2, the issue is going to be using a QR clamp on the RRS part in order to quickly shift from horizontal to vertical, but you still have to unmount and remount the camera.....it is just quicker with the lever release.
    Yes, the RRS MH-01 works perfectly with a tripod collar and I have done so with Canon lenses. But Mamiya is a bit more frugal and I think the first collar makes its appearance at 300mm. Instead I do as Bob implied, crop square

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