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    New PHASE ONE 645DF Medium Format CAMERA

    Announcing the PHASE ONE 645DF Medium Format CAMERA

    The Perfect Body for your Perfect Back

    COPENHAGEN, September 28, 2009 – Phase One, the world’s leader in open-platform medium format camera systems and solutions, today announced the Phase One 645DF camera. Engineered in partnership with Mamiya Digital Imaging for superior quality image capture and ease of handling, it sets a new standard for high flash sync speeds – up to 1/1600 of a second.

    Also today, Phase One announced the availability of three new high performance leaf shutter lenses, 55mm, 80mm and 110mm, all f/2.8 and all designed with the Phase One 645DF camera in mind. The lenses are a result of close collaboration with Mamiya Digital Imaging and Schneider Kreuznach

    “Our patent-pending flash sync breakthrough eases working with wide open apertures and fill-in flash on location,” said Jan H. Christiansen, Phase One marketing director. “We already offer the most flexible exposure times ranging from 1/4000 of a second to one full hour. Setting new performance standards is all about expanding creative options for photographers.”

    The 645DF camera is the only 645 medium format camera which supports both focal plane and leaf shutters, expanding photographers’ innovative possibilities by leveraging the two shutter technologies seamlessly for world class photography, whether this involves ultra-fast flash sync speeds or extremely flexible exposure times.

    The new camera introduces many performance improvements over its predecessor. Capture responsiveness and autofocus speed is highly improved giving photographers up to 5 times faster performance in a typical fashion set up.

    The 645DF also offers a breakthrough workflow improvement -- custom-shooting modes. For the first time in a medium-format camera, photographers can “dial up” a pre-defined mode, where the camera is instantly set up for a given shooting scenario, e.g. product, portrait or landscape photography.

    Other workflow enhancements include new tactile buttons, a fully sealed eye-cup eliminating ambient light, improved viewfinder masks, and customizable audio feedback e.g. on focus lock. Several custom functions have been enhanced, without compromising simple navigation.

    Freedom to choose the best back for you

    Phase One builds flexible, open photographic systems to support a professional’s style, needs and working preference. The Phase One 645DF camera supports the world’s finest digital backs, ensuring freedom of choice and investment protection for years to come. It is compatible with digital backs designed for the Phase One / Mamiya AFD mount, including backs from Phase One, Leaf, Mamiya and others.

    Pricing and Availability

    The Phase One 645DF camera body starts at $5990/€4290 and is expected to ship Q4, 2009. The new leaf shutter lenses start at $2490/€1790 and are expected to start shipping Q4, 2009. All equipment can be ordered now from Phase One and Leaf dealers (for the dealer near you, please see: http://www.phaseone.com/partners and http://www.leaf-photography.com/dealers.asp).

    About Phase One

    Phase One is the world’s leader in open-platform based medium format camera systems and solutions. Phase One medium format cameras, digital backs and lenses are designed to deliver superior quality image capture and investment value. Phase One’s Capture One software helps streamline capture and post-production processes for both medium format and DSLR cameras. Phase One products are known for their quality, flexibility and speed enabling pro photographers shooting in a wide range of formats to achieve their creative visions without compromise.

    Phase One is an employee-owned company based in Copenhagen with offices in New York, London, Tokyo, Cologne and Shanghai.

    For more information about the products, visit the Phase One web site on www.phaseone.com.

    Phase One is a registered trademark of Phase One A/S. All other brand or product names are trademarks or registered trademarks of their respective holders.


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    Schneider Kreuznach, Phase One, Mamiya Digital Imaging

    Cooperate to Drive Innovations in Medium Format Digital Lenses

    Expanding Range of Lens Options for Pro Photographers

    BAD KREUZNACH, Germany, COPENHAGEN and TOKYO, Sept. 28, 2009 — Schneider Kreuznach, Phase One A/S and Mamiya Digital Imaging, Ltd. today announced that they are collaborating on design, development, manufacturing, and delivery of superior quality, precision digital lenses for the medium format camera systems used by the world’s most discriminating professional photographers.

    “Our vision of offering photographers freedom to choose from what is best in photographic equipment is at the heart of our cooperation with Schneider Kreuznach,” said Henrik Håkonsson, President and CEO of Phase One. “We are committed to sharing expertise in digital imaging technology with the world’s most respected companies to push the limits of excellence for photographers.”

    “We are pleased to contribute our optical expertise within a very creative group,” said Dr. Josef Staub, Managing Director of Schneider Kreuznach. “As we pioneer advancements in optical lens design, the photographic market can look forward to new, extraordinary lenses.”

    “Successful teamwork has already resulted in the world’s most open medium format camera platform,” said Toshio Midorikawa, President of Mamiya Digital Imaging. “Now we take another step, as we share our manufacturing expertise with Schneider Kreuznach’s optical design talents to benefit the world’s photographers.”

    The first results of this collaboration are the 55mm, 80mm and 110mm leaf shutter lenses designed for the Phase One 645DF and Mamiya 645DF cameras. The lenses can be ordered now and will start shipping Q4, 2009.

    About Mamiya Digital Imaging
    Mamiya Digital Imaging is the digital successor to the reputable Mamiya brand, an innovative company fresh with enthusiasm and dedicated to continuing a legacy of excellence. Mamiya has consistently been a fore-runner in medium format camera design, and Mamiya lenses, manufactured following a tradition of precision and quality, are celebrated world-wide. For the Professional Photographer, it is the ultimate brand in photographic equipment.

    Mamiya Digital Imaging is headquartered in Tokyo with two factories in Japan, and has distributors in more than 100 countries.

    For more information about products, visit the Mamiya homepage on www.mamiya.co.jp


    About Phase One

    Phase One is the world’s leader in open-platform based medium format camera systems and solutions. Phase One medium format cameras, digital backs and lenses are designed to deliver superior quality image capture and investment value. Phase One Capture One software helps streamline capture and post-production processes for both medium format and DSLR cameras. Phase One products are known for their quality, flexibility and speed enabling pro photographers shooting in a wide range of formats to achieve their creative visions without compromise.

    Phase One is an employee-owned company based in Copenhagen with offices in New York, London, Tokyo, Cologne and Shanghai.

    For more information about the products, visit the Phase One Web site on www.phaseone.com.

    About the Schneider Group

    The Schneider Group specializes in developing and producing high-performance photographic lenses, cinema projection lenses, as well as industrial optics and precision mechanics. The group comprises Jos. Schneider Optische Werke, founded in Bad Kreuznach in 1913, and its subsidiaries Pentacon (Dresden), B+W Filterfabrik (ISCO) (Göttingen ), Schneider-Optics (New York, Los Angeles),
    Schneider Bando (Seoul), Schneider Asia Pacific (Hong Kong) and Schneider Optical Technologies (Shenzhen). The company’s main brand is “Schneider-Kreuznach." It has around 640 employees worldwide, with 335 based in its German headquarters. For years now the group has been a world market leader in the area of high-performance lenses.
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    Re: New PHASE ONE 645DF Medium Format CAMERA

    Hmmm AFDIII for sale.
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    Re: New PHASE ONE 645DF Medium Format CAMERA

    A 110 leaf shutter lens. SWEET
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    Re: New PHASE ONE 645DF Medium Format CAMERA

    Dave Gallagher, the owner of Capture Integration, traveled to Denmark to see the announcement of this product in person. He has gotten hands on time as well as time with the engineers.

    Any and all questions are welcome, but please be patient as it may take 2-3 days for us to answer all of them as Dave is still in transit.

    The 1/1600th sync speed is an absolute mind-blower to me. I shoot with the H2 at 1/800 quite a bit and it's fantastic to be able to sync full strobes at that speed. The extra stop will be very welcome.

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    Re: New PHASE ONE 645DF Medium Format CAMERA

    Doug,

    PUT ME ON THE LIST NOW FOR A BODY AND THE 110 LS!!!!!!!!

    1/1600th synch is freaking awesome!
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    Re: New PHASE ONE 645DF Medium Format CAMERA

    Capture responsiveness and autofocus speed is highly improved giving photographers up to 5 times faster performance in a typical fashion set up.

    The 645DF also offers a breakthrough workflow improvement -- custom-shooting modes. For the first time in a medium-format camera, photographers can “dial up” a pre-defined mode, where the camera is instantly set up for a given shooting scenario, e.g. product, portrait or landscape photography.

    Other workflow enhancements include new tactile buttons, a fully sealed eye-cup eliminating ambient light, improved viewfinder masks, and customizable audio feedback e.g. on focus lock. Several custom functions have been enhanced, without compromising simple navigation.


    Looks like no shutter lag and the custom features is really nice. Quick flip to indoor /outdoor stuff would be very handy. Some changes in the button functions sounds good as well. Looking forward to this. This could be what I have been looking for and my only really bitch about the system was a film based body. This looks to solve that
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    Re: New PHASE ONE 645DF Medium Format CAMERA

    I am already on the list. LOL
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    Re: New PHASE ONE 645DF Medium Format CAMERA

    The 1/1600th sync speed is an absolute mind-blower to me

    I did not see that. Wow best in the industry and I mean the whole industry
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    Hi,
    I think the 1/1600th sync speed is Ok with CaNikon flashes, but useless in studio. For exampe, my Hensel studio strobes sync at 1/250, this is max speed of radio transmitter.

    How can you use such high 1/1600 sync speed in studio?
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    Re: New PHASE ONE 645DF Medium Format CAMERA

    Well I am thinking more outside work with more wide open shooting plus a fill flash that does not need a generator truck. Even a small portable can do some serious outside fill. Those Quadras are even more appealing now at 400 watt small package.

    As far as radio transmitters obviously they will need to be improved. I use Skyports and don't know there limits but something we will have to look into with the radio Transmitters. Also we need to look at higher speed flash duration heads . I think most of them are faster but again need to check specs on specific brands.
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    Re: New PHASE ONE 645DF Medium Format CAMERA

    Yes, location fill is where that will be killer...
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    Re: New PHASE ONE 645DF Medium Format CAMERA

    You could actually shoot that new 110 wide open with fill flash. That will be a nice option
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    Re: New PHASE ONE 645DF Medium Format CAMERA

    Quick comparison of the full shutter speed range of the P1DF, H2D/H3D/H4D, and S2 with the flash-sync-capable speeds in red.



    Obviously the vast vast majority of shooting gets down in the 1 second to 1/500th range. It's nice to know your system is not going to limit your creativity though for those situations where especially fast shutter speeds, especially long exposures, or high-speed-sync is required.

    Also a quick word to those who have never shot a leaf shutter lens. The "high-speed sync mode" offered by Canon/Nikon through their flash systems is no where close to the flexibility of a true leaf shutter lens (though they are obviously great and very welcome options within the constraints of a focal plane shutter system). The high speed flash sync of a leaf shutter lens (such as those being offered within the Phase One system) can be used at full flash power with most any flash system.

    The dotted line for the Phase system between 1 and 4 hours is because the longest exposure is not a hard limit, but rather determined by the ambient temperature. 11 hour exposures are possible at -11C. Full Chart.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Guy Mancuso View Post

    As far as radio transmitters obviously they will need to be improved. I use Skyports and don't know there limits but something we will have to look into with the radio Transmitters. Also we need to look at higher speed flash duration heads . I think most of them are faster but again need to check specs on specific brands.
    The Profoto Air transmitter unit is designed to work with up to 1/1500s leaf shutter sync speeds, so it may be able to work for folks using Profotos. Unless you were using the new D1 Air monolights, or the Pro 8A Air pack, both of which you can get with the internal receiver, you would also need the Air receivers to connect to packs or monos, much like using a PocketWizard receiver and transmitter arrangement.

    Have not checked the specs on the EL-Skyport for Elinchrom yet. Also worth looking at the new PW mini transmitters, but I do not think they have those tuned for much beyond the Canon and now Nikon bodies for faster flash sync.

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    P.S. Just checked the specs on the EL-Skyport system.....1/1000s is top sync speed.
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    Re: New PHASE ONE 645DF Medium Format CAMERA

    I can deal with 1/1000th for now but certainly would like to see higher for sure. I wonder if the internal sync on on the Quadra packs is higher. Hmmm
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    Quote Originally Posted by Guy Mancuso View Post
    I can deal with 1/1000th for now but certainly would like to see higher for sure. I wonder if the internal sync on on the Quadra packs is higher. Hmmm
    Well, that part is only the receiver. It is the transmitter, which attaches to the camera that needs to be able to handle the faster sync speed, no?

    The other part about flash duration speed is separate. That should not matter so much, except for flash units that have a very narrow power spike (short duration for freezing action), which would then need to be timed more closely with the shutter duration. Right now, most focal plane shutter arrangements using short duration flash have more than too much overlap at times....creating possibilities for ghosting. So, this is where it is important for the wireless transmitter to be able to match the shutter trip signal, and that in turn must be within the flash duration sync of the heads.

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    Re: New PHASE ONE 645DF Medium Format CAMERA

    Elinchrom skyports are good up to 1/1000th both directions. The Ranger S heads max duration is 1/1150 IIRC and the Quadra is 1/1300th... So bottom line is your limitation would be the skyport. If you wanted 1/1600th, you'd have to connect directly and maybe use a speed head to insure its longest duration was less than 1/1600th. For me, having just 1/1000th available for my battery strobe fill is AWESOME...
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    Re: New PHASE ONE 645DF Medium Format CAMERA

    Okay that is with the leaf lenses although the press release was not specific about that what about focal plane sync speed
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    That may not have changed from the present 1/125s speed. Would be nice to know if it has improved at least to 1/250s or so.

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    Re: New PHASE ONE 645DF Medium Format CAMERA

    Focal plane shutter speed has not changed, and is unlikely to change.

    Too big a shutter to make it go any faster.

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    Re: New PHASE ONE 645DF Medium Format CAMERA

    Found this pic:

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    Re: New PHASE ONE 645DF Medium Format CAMERA

    Quote Originally Posted by Jack Flesher View Post
    Elinchrom skyports are good up to 1/1000th both directions. The Ranger S heads max duration is 1/1150 IIRC and the Quadra is 1/1300th... So bottom line is your limitation would be the skyport. If you wanted 1/1600th, you'd have to connect directly and maybe use a speed head to insure its longest duration was less than 1/1600th. For me, having just 1/1000th available for my battery strobe fill is AWESOME...
    Just a quick technical note:

    It's NOT essential that the flash duration be 1/1600th or faster.

    Flashes curve up, and curve down, and the flash duration is usually quoted as either the point where 50% or 90% of the flash power has been put out. If your flash duration were a bit longer than 1/1600th you would lose some power, but there should not be any ghosting or artifacts.

    Most flash units have shorter flash durations as they are turned down, so if need be you could simply dial the flash to half power.

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    Re: New PHASE ONE 645DF Medium Format CAMERA

    Understood Doug, but you could lose a chunk of the flash's output power if it's duration is say 1/1150th and you are shooting at 1/1600th...
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    Jack,
    That was my point about timing of flash sync. The next important part to know is when the flash power peaks. Some build and peak late, others peak early and trail. (Those are the "curve up and curve down" things Doug mentions.)

    Doug,
    The issue of ghosting can still occur if there is a slow shutter duration coupled with a long duration flash. That was my point about the focal plane shutter speeds. The leaf shutter speeds, being able to be much faster, should significantly reduce that problem.

    As it looks now, the new lenses should be capable into the future a bit more.....at least until sync devices catch up on transmission speeds.

    Is there a hardwire (sync cord) feature on the lens or is it the camera body that controls everything? (I would hope that latter, but worth asking about.)

    LJ

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    Re: New PHASE ONE 645DF Medium Format CAMERA

    uh.
    you already see some flash fall off at 1/400th of a second using a Pro 6 pack ,progressively getting worse as flash sync goes up.
    1/1600th of a second is great but it being practical?I don't know.
    Even my still life friends who shoot pin sharp water droplets don't need such a flash sync.

    either way, good job on getting a new body out. albeit USD$6000

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    Re: New PHASE ONE 645DF Medium Format CAMERA

    Used the DF and LS lenses this weekend and honestly was really impressed. I truly believe that Phase and Hasse are now on an even playing field after the DF body and LS lenses ships.

    My Impressions:

    Lag is improved dramatically. It was almost undetectable. Focus was 30-40% faster than the older unit. In my eyes, the AFD II and III were not applicable cameras to fashion or lifestyle shooting. However, this unit finally is. The camera will have 1/800th flash synch and 1/1600th with certain new Phase backs attached. That gives this body a range of 1 hour to 1/4000th of a second exposures. It has the ability to use manual hasse lenses, 645 manual lenses, 645 AF lenses, and all of the new D line. This is a huge range of options.

    We only had a few minutes with it but it is worth the wait. Some features that have been improved: Mirror up mode, custom function sets,focus trap, enhanced bracketing, programable exposure lock and focus buttons. And the vertical grip looks great! However, it will not be out this year. I took pictures of the grip (not made of wood this time) and was asked not to show them. It should have built in Pocketwizard, and use both lithium Ion and AA's.

    The 80mm LS (Leaf Shutter) and DF body will be available this month. The 55mm LS available by December and the 110mm LS by first quarter. But most importantly..... the Schneider glass looked very impressive. The glass was made and designed in Germany but assembled in Japan. Strong sharpness and beautiful bokeh.

    Capture One 5.0

    It will be available on October 28th (hopefully)

    - All present Leaf cameras will be compatible but no word on older ones. (my guess would be yes though)
    - Live Preview is back
    - Focus tool is improved with multiple focus points and small focus window and can float.
    - Focus Mask tool , works like exposure warning but highlights areas that have sharpness in each thumbnail
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    - Dust eraser in raws
    - Uniform Light tool replaces LCC's and is applied. Also fixes up to 4 stops of falloff!
    - Indivdual RBG channel mods is back
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    - Customizable tabs. You can eliminate all the tabs if you want to or add new ones.
    - Local "apply all" on each tool
    - improved noise reduction
    - Session tab pull down menu added

    OK, thats about all I have for now. On a plane back home in the AM.

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    so... anyone have a cheap afdIII for sale

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    Maybe. LOL
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    Re: New PHASE ONE 645DF Medium Format CAMERA

    hmmm....I can smell another "Mancuso kit swap" coming.....

    AFDIII for 645DF
    P30+ for P40+
    80mm f2.8 for the 80mm f2.8 LS

    Just cannot imagine Guy NOT wanting to do this ;-)

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dave Gallagher View Post
    Capture One 5.0 ...
    Focus tool is improved with multiple focus points and small focus window and can float.
    great! Does it replace the second viewer or is this an inhanced viewer?
    Metadata now has unlimited customizable entries
    very good
    Dust eraser in raws
    for all cameras or only DBs?

    Uniform Light tool replaces LCC's and is applied. Also fixes up to 4 stops of falloff!
    could you please describe this? Does that mean we don't have to shoot LLC shots anymore?
    I assume we can switch off the light falloff correction?

    Indivdual RBG channel mods is back
    finally!

    Vignetting on crops
    that's fine

    Local "apply all" on each tool
    "apply all" in the sense of copy&paste adjustments to a selection of images? That would be great!

    improved noise reduction
    hopefuly they fixed the bug with the preset as well

    what about the stitcher? It has been said it will come back "vastly improved".

    Some good news, thanks for sharing!

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    Forgot to say....

    The $1500 upgrade to the DF still applies to anyone who bought from September 2008 to 9/25/09.

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    sounds like great news for phase owners.
    Schneider glass and leaf-shutter - 2 advantages of the Hy6 system now also available for Phamiya. (just kidding) seriously, sounds like good news.

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    Live Preview? Like Canon 1DsMKIII and not tethered?

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    Re: New PHASE ONE 645DF Medium Format CAMERA

    customizable audio feedback e.g. on focus lock
    Sorry, this made me laugh...

    OK so you get one stop better sync with the very very few flash heads that can actually do it and only with certain P1backs. I'm sure the 'blad folks are really worried.

    Sorry guys, still seeing pretty much nothing to ever pursuade me, a 35mm shooter, that this camera has anything to do with the past almost decade of camera design from this century. I'd even add the last half decade from the past century to that.
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    I'm glad I sold my AFD II and Leaf back last week. Shoot Nikon for a couple of months, then transition to the PhaseOne w/ leaf shutters by the end of Q1, 2010!!! YES!!!!!!

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    Re: New PHASE ONE 645DF Medium Format CAMERA

    Quote Originally Posted by pcunite View Post
    Live Preview? Like Canon 1DsMKIII and not tethered?
    live preview is not live view. It's a feature of "Capture One 5.0" so this is most likely the live preview as established with DBs.

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    Re: New PHASE ONE 645DF Medium Format CAMERA

    Dave, thanks for the Capture One 5.0 info. Hopefully this is for both Mac and Windows - correct?

    Can you provide a little more info on the Uniform Light tool replaces LCC's and is applied.

    What about compatibility with Windows 7 (release date October 22) 64 bit machines?

    Much appreciated.

    October 28 release for 5.0 - just a few days after we return from Oregon so we can all give it a workout processing the files from the trip!!!

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    C1 version 5 sounds really nice . Looking forward to that upgrade. I think it was a 100 dollar upgrade to previous 4.0 owners but we will have to see what that pricing will be. Certainly I am going for it as well as the new body. But I'm a gear slut so what does anyone expect me to do . LOL
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    Quote Originally Posted by cmb_ View Post
    Dave, thanks for the Capture One 5.0 info. Hopefully this is for both Mac and Windows - correct?

    Can you provide a little more info on the Uniform Light tool replaces LCC's and is applied.

    What about compatibility with Windows 7 (release date October 22) 64 bit machines?

    Much appreciated.

    October 28 release for 5.0 - just a few days after we return from Oregon so we can all give it a workout processing the files from the trip!!!
    Maybe we can hopefully see a demo first hand Charlie at the workshop , that would be a nice addition.
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    I was thinking that . . but to myself.

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    Quote Originally Posted by cmb_ View Post
    Dave, thanks for the Capture One 5.0 info. Hopefully this is for both Mac and Windows - correct?

    Can you provide a little more info on the Uniform Light tool replaces LCC's and is applied.

    What about compatibility with Windows 7 (release date October 22) 64 bit machines?

    Much appreciated.

    October 28 release for 5.0 - just a few days after we return from Oregon so we can all give it a workout processing the files from the trip!!!
    I was told today that this is basically LCC with light falloff measurement and correction built in.

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    Quote Originally Posted by LJL View Post
    hmmm....I can smell another "Mancuso kit swap" coming.....

    AFDIII for 645DF
    P30+ for P40+
    80mm f2.8 for the 80mm f2.8 LS

    Just cannot imagine Guy NOT wanting to do this ;-)

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    Nahhhh. You have it right, except for the lens part. I'm gonna bet that Guy gets the 645DF, P40+, and then the 110mm f/2.8 LS....
    hey! Let's start a pool.....


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    Quote Originally Posted by kdphotography View Post
    Nahhhh. You have it right, except for the lens part. I'm gonna bet that Guy gets the 645DF, P40+, and then the 110mm f/2.8 LS....
    hey! Let's start a pool.....

    I would see that bet and raise it with a 55mm f2.8 LS ALSO.....just seems like the right combo of lenses for group and portrait style shooting with fill flash used outdoors.

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    Quote Originally Posted by LJL View Post
    I would see that bet and raise it with a 55mm f2.8 LS ALSO.....just seems like the right combo of lenses for group and portrait style shooting with fill flash used outdoors.

    LJ
    oh, Guy is sooooo in trouble....



    (We're all here to support and encourage you, Guy....I just put my name in for a new 645DF and 110 LS....)

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    Quote Originally Posted by tashley View Post
    I was told today that this is basically LCC with light falloff measurement and correction built in.
    Nice. TY Tim.

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    Quote Originally Posted by kdphotography View Post
    oh, Guy is sooooo in trouble....



    (We're all here to support and encourage you, Guy....I just put my name in for a new 645DF and 110 LS....)
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    Most of it sounds great. I already see it coming that i will have to re create a few panoramics which had huge light fall off after a big shift.

    However I would like to know TWO main things. Once will Live Preview work on Windows ? (As said before not everyone wants to work with slow mac based computers)

    Second what about the shutter vibration with the new camera ? Any improvements ? Let me explain what I mean. As far as I have tried it is nearly impossible to get any sharp results using a 300mm or 150mm lens with shutter speeds around 1/5th to 1/20th. Even with a MLU and a cable release. I mean when you make a high speed film of the thing you see the whole camera vibrate when the shutter opens. I'm taking about the SHUTTER not mirror. Any improvements ?

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    Well, with SK glassand the specs looks like finally a real HB (and CTX ) contender.

    ..but, are we assuming AF SK lens or are they like some of the high end glass (like 110 MAKRO), MF?

    leaf shutter, if really AF with those specs-this must have been a secret project more secret than the M9.

    looks perty good though :-) even MF

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    Quote Originally Posted by Christopher View Post
    Most of it sounds great. I already see it coming that i will have to re create a few panoramics which had huge light fall off after a big shift.

    However I would like to know TWO main things. Once will Live Preview work on Windows ? (As said before not everyone wants to work with slow mac based computers)

    Second what about the shutter vibration with the new camera ? Any improvements ? Let me explain what I mean. As far as I have tried it is nearly impossible to get any sharp results using a 300mm or 150mm lens with shutter speeds around 1/5th to 1/20th. Even with a MLU and a cable release. I mean when you make a high speed film of the thing you see the whole camera vibrate when the shutter opens. I'm taking about the SHUTTER not mirror. Any improvements ?

    Christopher,

    See my 'tease' thread. I've been testing the new body and lens today and whilst it is clear that with MUP there should be a significant improvement at slow shutter speeds using the leaf shutter, I have yet to see real evidence of it: see these two 100% crops from the top (about half way to the left edge from the centre) of the frame.

    The following is at F16, 1/5th of a second with the new leaf lens, MUP



    The next is the old lens on the new body but with FP shutter, also at F16, 1/5th and MUP


    I think this shows that with a good tripod (a Gitzo Carbon Fibre GT3541LS ) and head (Arca Cube) the benefits of the leaf shutter from the POV of shake are not significant. More intriguing would be the same test with a less stable (and lighter!) rig, which I no longer have to hand but which might show that the leaf shutter makes a difference with easier to travel with tripod and head combinations...

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    Re: New PHASE ONE 645DF Medium Format CAMERA

    Quote Originally Posted by gogopix View Post
    Well, with SK glassand the specs looks like finally a real HB (and CTX ) contender.

    ..but, are we assuming AF SK lens or are they like some of the high end glass (like 110 MAKRO), MF?

    leaf shutter, if really AF with those specs-this must have been a secret project more secret than the M9.

    looks perty good though :-) even MF

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    Victor, I have one here. It is AF, SK, and AFAIK PDG!

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