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    Hi guys,

    I'm getting a P30+ to start in to the MF and it will come with a Phase One 645 Af (mamiya 645AFD III) which I'll be upgrading to the newly announced Phase One DF as soon as my dealer will get one.

    I know everything there is to know and more about all Canon "L" series glass and nothing about the Mamiya Glass, all I know that most of the people I know that use Mamiya, praise their high image quality.

    So what I like for you is to share which are the best and which I should stay away from, please base your replays on proven facts and personal experience, or experiences reported to you by people you trust, not interested in links, I have read everything out there.

    Obviously I already have my wish list on all "D" glass and on the newly announced ones, I avoid zooms all together, but share them as well.

    I mostly like to know if the ULD type Mamiya glass is much worst then the "D" marked one, since in comparison is less money.

    Thanks in advance and look forward to this Mamiya Lens Porn discussions with you.

    Ciao,

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    Re: Okay MAMIYA 645AFD shooters, share your Lens knowledge..Please!!

    Okay P30+ owner my setup all D glass 28,45,80 and 150. Great set covers a very nice range. Now there are new leaf shutter lenses coming 55,80 and 110 all 2.8 . So may want to think about that with high sync at 1/800. Otherwise the focal plane is 1/125 sync
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    Thanks Guy,

    this is exactly why I posted, want to use and need to use the absolute Best glass, but at the same time with the new one just announced, I don't want to invest in all the "D" glass if I can get great quality form the standard glass, buy it used, then resell it and get the nee announced Glass.

    So any toughs on which ones to get or not to get would be great, if the none "D" is not up to the task of producing the same stunning images as the "D" glass then forget it, but if it is a question of faster or slower auto focus and such then no problem, I care about Image quality now, then with the new lenses I'll have it all I hope!

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    Re: Okay MAMIYA 645AFD shooters, share your Lens knowledge..Please!!

    The 75-150 zoom is excellent, and select copies of the older 55-110 and 105-210 can be very good. 55AF is generally excellent, but 45 AF's don't usually cut it on full-frame -- however, may be just fine with your crop P30+. Ditto 35. 80 D is excellent, 150 2.8 D is perhaps the best lens I have ever owned period -- it is stunningly excellent. Older 150/3.5 is also very good, and excellent once stopped down a few. 120 Macro is excellent, 210 ULD is excellent, and 300 is stellar.
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    Thanks Jack,

    yes for now if the lenses are purchased at a reasonable price used, its okay as far as they fulfill the needs of the P30+ when I'll upgrade to the P65+ I'm sure I'll already have all the new lenses as well.

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    Ketch,

    You may find some useful bits of info in the this thread: http://forum.getdpi.com/forum/showthread.php?t=6756

    Congrats on your new kit.

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    The other reason that the P30+ is in the "sweet spot" is that any softness in the corners will not be part of the image with the slight crop of this MFDB....

    75-150 and the 150 D series are on my camera the most; 120 macro is very sharp. 35mm is excellent. Most all are pretty good, with the 45mm (older gen) and 55-110--- imho, being the weakest links, though good copies abound. Really can't miss with the new D series; all eyes are on the new leaf shutter lenses being released....

    Guy has a 300mm for sale, I believe, which is a nice lens to have.

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    Re: Okay MAMIYA 645AFD shooters, share your Lens knowledge..Please!!

    I forgot to add that the 28 is also very good
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    Thanks guys, much appreciate, keep the comment coming

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    Re: Okay MAMIYA 645AFD shooters, share your Lens knowledge..Please!!

    Can just comment on the glass on a P65. 45D really good, 80D perfect, 150D perfect, 75-150 not so sure here. Found the corners not to good, but perhaps I just tried a bad copy.

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    Thanks Christopher,

    I imagine that been the same glass, it would hold truth for the new bodies as swell.

    The zoom I really prefer not use any ways.

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    I really hope Phase gives us a good zoom in the near future. Something like a 45-90. Doesn't have to be a fast lens, but should be prime quality, like Leica or Zeiss. Well a remodeled 55-110 would be good as well, even though I prefer 45-90.

    As far as the 28 goes, I think it's a crap lens. At least on the P65 and the two I tried. Especially after considering that it is still quite expensive.

    For me I own right now the 45,80 and 150 with the Phase system and a 23,40,90,150 with my large format camera. I am really thinking about selling the phase stuff, but probably wait and test the new body. Nothing wrong with it, the stuff is great, I just have the problem that, if I want the best of the best I pick up the large format camera and for everything else a Leica or my Canon. (Here is the though again, that a 45-90 zoom would be great)

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    Hey Ketch, first of all welcome to Phase World as a new user myself, I got the 28 D & 80 D so far (waiting for a 150 D to be delivered next week) and I can say that they both are amazing on my P45+. My previous experience is with Hassy V (on film) & briefly Mamiya RB (on film), all sort of Nikon glass on film & digital, Leica glass on film & (briefly) digital: I can say that the 28 is probably the best ~20mm FOV (compared to 135 format) bar none, while the 80 is up there with the best normals on Leica and beats everything MF I have seen. I am looking forward to the 150 D which is supposed to be fantastic, and am looking forward to the leaf shutter lenses! Sync @ 1/125 is not too cool, and having the 80 & 110 being able to sync up to 1/800 will be just great.
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    Re: Okay MAMIYA 645AFD shooters, share your Lens knowledge..Please!!

    Vieri the 150 comes with a warning put some dirty glasses on to cut the sharpness or you may just slice your eyes. It's that good. Now on the 28mm I love mine and it is a extremely good copy but on the FF P65+ there is some softness in those corners . Here is where C1 comes to the rescue they have under lens corrections corner sharpness and it does help it a great deal but it's a better lens on the P45 and P40 sizing. With the 65 you just may have to crop a little that is if you want very critical sharp corners. This lens also needs to be focused correctly.You are better off focusing close and carry ing further than focusing out and hoping DOF will get the foreground. Jack and I both have noticed this and it is not known by many. So you really want to focus on the first third of a landscape say instead of the middle ground or infinity. BTW Helicon focus is a great program for any MF system to gain DOF . Now not mentioned here is the 300mm AF which is very good . I just sold mine but it is very sharp wide open . I been through 2 of them and will get a third in a couple months when I get some more money. I need it for 2 big jobs a year and make sure I have it than.

    Also keep in mind the new LS glass coming out . Nice to have at least one lens that can do 1/800 sync speed and they come in flavors of 55,80 and 110. My eye is on the 55 and 110.

    Ketch since you are new to C1 and thePhase system love for you to make the workshop in Oregon . CI will be there with all of there gear to demo and we are teaching C1 version 5 the latest unreleased version. I have the beta and it's very nice.

    I agree with Chris a mid range zoom would be very handy in a D flavor
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    Re: Okay MAMIYA 645AFD shooters, share your Lens knowledge..Please!!

    A note on the 75-150D and 28D and 55-110 and 35 --- I had to try several copies of each to get really good ones. IIRC, I went through 3 of the 55-110, 4 of the 35's, 3 28's and just 2 75-150's... At present, my 28 is very good, but I've seen one that's a teeny bit better, and it's basically perfect -- so they can be found. Point here is just like a lot of Canon lenses, not all are perfect out of the box and these high-resolution digital cameras show every flaw readily...
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    That must be my 28mm . LOL Mine is deadly good.
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    Thanks guys, I surely appreciate all your inputs.

    I'm a bit worried about this inconsistencies issues with glass that is not all that cheap, especially on the 28, and more so on the 35 which would be more likely something I would get, no real need at this time for the UW 28.

    I really try to steer clear of zooms, even so they do have their use but I prefer Primes, any way here again comes the concern with the no so great copies floating around, which I could end up buying one especially when buying used ones not a good prospect.

    WEll for now with the P30+ being slightly smaller sensor size the corner defects should definitely be less pronounced if any, the P65+ I sure understand how some lenses, more so on the UW side, they might not cover the full Circle of such large sensor even so, same as they are saying about the 28 on the new Hassy H4D-60.

    Btw, Guy thanks for the invite, will see how we are doing, that would be a good excuse to escape the desert of Las Vegas and all this half naked ladies around me all the time, I need some air too you know!

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    Re: Okay MAMIYA 645AFD shooters, share your Lens knowledge..Please!!

    Yes on the 35mm lens you may have to go through one to find a sweetie. I had a good one and Jack did also finally . The P30+ will certainly help on glass as it is cropping the corners so it may not be a issue now but obviously jumping to a P65 it may. Obviously the P65 will be hard on the 28 and 35 and certainly are better on the P30 , P45 size. Honestly if you go P65 at some point in life a tech camera is really what your going to want for it to gain as much as you can from it. They only lens I would get new is the 28mm from the CI folks since if it is not a good copy they will take it back and get another. I actually bought mine new from them myself and the 150mm. Since you are buying the P30+ from them obviously a good choice to get some lenses from them as well. Believe me they are one of the best dealers around or we would not use them and also not invite them to our workshops either. They are good folks that care, I know that sounded like a plug but was not meant to be. But I have had a great experience with them and continue to also. If it was me right now buy your D glass there any anything used here on the forum and such. That's me though
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    Advise well taken Guy and yes the guys over at Integration do rock, but I didn't conclude the sale as of yet, I have two other systems, one of which from Digital Transitions NY, but I do favor the deal with Integration as I like Steve and He was very helpful in more then one way to accommodate me, so monday morning will know.

    Either way, my only issue with new glass is that now, and for the next two months, this is my pocket cash I'm spending, not my companies, so till early next year there can not be much spending, then P65+ and new glass of every Focal, but the reason I'm getting a P30+ now is to play with the system for this two months, so that later when fully upgrading and spending a considerable amount of my companies funds, I will have already got the much needed experience with in the MF medium,

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    You could do some used lenses than like a 150 3.5 which is great stopped down some. Depends on your needs obviously. Wish i could afford the P40 right now it would be all over for both of us. LOL
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    He he!

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    Depending on one's expectations, purchasing used Mamiya glass (pre-D models) until the budget allows the upgrades is not very expensive. Some of the lenses are only a few hundred dollars and can be resold for near what one pays. Consider any loss a light rental fee, though a loss is always needed to sell.

    John Black just posted a the lens which Guy mentions above (150 f3/5) for $250. That's cheaper than most, but offers an idea.

    Correction: it's still available and maybe the lowest price I've seen this lens go for (can't really recall).

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    Thanks Dale, you are right, and was considering just that, possibly getting at list a used 210 since I will have a 80 "D" coming with the system.

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    Start slow and build
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    Ketch, I have a 210 and I'm very happy with it. I have only shot one copy of it, and that is on the very "forgiving" P25+ (9 micron pixels). I like the overall character of the lens, and mine is quite sharp. The 210 is generally very highly regarded, but now with the P65+ all previous evaluations must be reconsidered.

    I agree with Guy about starting slow and building. Typically we have a few focal lengths that are sort of "must have" and the others are less urgent. I seem to use all of my lenses, but find that the 45mm is least used on my 1.1x sensor. And then on a recent outing I was really, really glad I had it in the bag. (BTW: I'd avoid the older non-D 45mm if you shoot wide-open or nearly so. My use of it is stopped down. The new "D" would be the way to go now.)

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dale Allyn View Post
    John Black just posted a the lens which Guy mentions above (150 f3/5) for $250. That's cheaper than most, but offers an idea.

    Correction: it's still available and maybe the lowest price I've seen this lens go for (can't really recall).
    I feel that I just about gave my 150mm 3.5 away---since having acquired the newer 150mm D series. But as pointed out before, by selling here, you avoid potentially costly Ebay listing/selling fees---and the lens does get to stay in the GetDPI family.


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    Re: Okay MAMIYA 645AFD shooters, share your Lens knowledge..Please!!

    Ketch - Welcome to the wonderful and often daunting world of medium format! You picked a great back in the P30+ and I'm certain you'll get great results from it. I used the P30+ along with the Mamiya AFD II then the Phase until I decided to go strictly with a technical camera and moved to the P45+. I used the 28mm which turned out to be a favorite as well as the 35mm, 75-150 and 300. My two most used lens were the 28 and 75-150. I think if you keep with your wish list of "D" glass you really should go wrong.

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    Thanks again all of you, this is such a great filling, being welcomed so warmly!

    definitely will stay with "D" glass series only, at list till the new lenses come out and will see if they will be as good or better, and what use I can make of the faster sync speeds.

    The 210 in Portrait for me is one if not the most lens Focal I will come to use, as in the 35mm world, the "L" 135, was the most used one, followed by the "L" 85, unfortunately I see that the 210 does not come in the "D" series

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    As an owner and lover of the Canon 135mm f/2.0 L (and the 85 L), I doubt that you'll find the missing "D" on the 210 a problem. Note however, that IMO you are not going to experience bokeh character of the 85L or the 135L with the Mamiya 210. This has nothing to do with "D" or no D, but the wonderfully absent AA filter on the P1 back and so many other factors.

    One feature that is appreciated with the "D" lenses is the AF/MF clutch on the lenses, and the 210mm ULD has this feature as well.

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    Not sure I understand your point on the Bokeh

    Surely there will be differences as they are with the 1.6 cropped sensors vs. the FF 35mm sensors, and so there will be differences cause of the much larger MF sensor, but what about the AA filter absence, and how those this effect the bokeh? Positively I imagine.

    Shooting Portraiture and High Fashion when outdoors Bokeh is a very important aspect of my photography work, especially as I like to shoot WO.

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    Quote Originally Posted by KETCH ROSSI View Post
    Not sure I understand your point on the Bokeh

    Surely there will be differences as they are with the 1.6 cropped sensors vs. the FF 35mm sensors, and so there will be differences cause of the much larger MF sensor, but what about the AA filter absence, and how those this effect the bokeh? Positively I imagine.

    Shooting Portraiture and High Fashion when outdoors Bokeh is a very important aspect of my photography work, especially as I like to shoot WO.
    Ketch,

    I didn't mean to startle you. Just that since you referred to the Canon 85 and 135, and since I particularly like the bokeh from both, I thought I would mention that there will be differences. I don't know the optical physics at play regarding the differences, but I do consider the Canon 85 L to produce some mighty buttery bokeh that is not typically the look we get (or at least "I" get) from MFDB. The lack of AA filter is a huge plus for image quality IMO, but that wonderful clarity may also be contributing to the differences I see in the bokeh. It really depends on how one shoots, the geometry of the setting, etc.

    I don't own it, but the Hassey 110 has some mighty buttery bokeh and can be fitted to the Mamiya body with an adapter. And the Mamiya 150 D looks darn nice too, though different. Bokeh is very subjective, as well as being affected by many factors, as I'm sure you know.

    Don't worry. Maybe just temper your expectations (if needed) until you make some images with your new kit.

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    Hehe, no arm done Dale,

    and yes I like to shoot WO when possible, and the Bokeh plays a large role in my style, the 85L is f/1.2 so in order to get similar Bokeh with MF will have to be no less then an f/2.8 lens like the 150 " which I will be getting o doubt.
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    Ketch you will get that look with a 150 just get your softening brush out. The 150 is killer sharp at critical focus point. Since you are in Vegas my bet is you may like to gamble a little . I say a dozen donuts has you just about falling off the chair when you see the detail on your monitor. You will be floored. LOL It's that good when you jump into MF land. BTW 1.2 on a Canon is about a 2.8 or F4 on a MF lens. Test this DOF out . That shot at 1.2 you just showed us really is about F4 in MF . 2.8 is razor thin
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    I did a portrait session (outdoors) a couple of weeks ago. I shot mostly with the Phase back, but mixed the Canon w/85 L and 135 L lenses in a bit too. To be honest, while the client was happy with any and all, I hated the very visible difference between the two kits (loving the P1). I know the differences between the kits, and normally just shoot one or the other, but mixing in the same shoot under the same conditions left me wishing I'd not wasted the time with the Canon.

    Still, I'm no bashing the Canon stuff. I don't like that type of forum play. Just that I really appreciate the visible differences. Of course this was all shot at lower ISOs, so one needs to keep a broad view when considering this different gear choices.

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    No gamble, no drinking, no drugs Guy..just Girls "D

    Yes the above shots was made with the 1Ds III & 70-200 WO @ 2.8, and can't wait to see what I can do in MF world!

    Well Dale. I did enjoy my Canon gear, but now with the jump in to MF I have sold it all, and hope never to look back!!

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    Re: Okay MAMIYA 645AFD shooters, share your Lens knowledge..Please!!

    Quote Originally Posted by Jack Flesher View Post
    The 75-150 zoom is excellent, and select copies of the older 55-110 and 105-210 can be very good. 55AF is generally excellent, but 45 AF's don't usually cut it on full-frame -- however, may be just fine with your crop P30+. Ditto 35. 80 D is excellent, 150 2.8 D is perhaps the best lens I have ever owned period -- it is stunningly excellent. Older 150/3.5 is also very good, and excellent once stopped down a few. 120 Macro is excellent, 210 ULD is excellent, and 300 is stellar.
    I really wish you'd SHUT UP, Jack! I've been hearing about that darn 150 2.8 from you for some time now, and tonight I finally broke down and ordered one.

    Can I send you the bill? (Like I don't know the answer to that!)

    I'll report on it when it arrives and if its really really really good maybe I'll forgive you.

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    Good at least Jack is getting the crap this time. i get blamed for some many lens purchases it's scary. LOL

    Go get him Bill don't let him off the hook that easy.
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    If seeking bokeh and narrow DOF, then the Mamiya 200mm F2.8 APO is worth looking at. It too is quite sharp wide open and on tight head shots the DOF will be very thin.

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    Thanks John, She is on my list Evens o I must admit this time I'm trying to stay away from the BIG whites Had all of them for my Canons, and just want to try end avoid them all together if I can, truly hope for a 210 replacement with the "D" and at 2.8 as well, but Black.

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    Re: Okay MAMIYA 645AFD shooters, share your Lens knowledge..Please!!

    Quote Originally Posted by Bill Caulfeild-Browne View Post
    I really wish you'd SHUT UP, Jack! I've been hearing about that darn 150 2.8 from you for some time now, and tonight I finally broke down and ordered one.

    Can I send you the bill? (Like I don't know the answer to that!)

    I'll report on it when it arrives and if its really really really good maybe I'll forgive you.

    Bill
    Bill you fell into Jack's web. I had thought you were safe from it all by using that 75-150mm zoom but curiosity got the better of you.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Guy Mancuso View Post
    Good at least Jack is getting the crap this time. i get blamed for some many lens purchases it's scary. LOL

    Go get him Bill don't let him off the hook that easy.
    I was completely happy with my 75-150D (still thrilled), but picked up the 150D and it is simply stellar.

    And Guy does get the blame for that one.

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    Re: Okay MAMIYA 645AFD shooters, share your Lens knowledge..Please!!

    Quote Originally Posted by Bill Caulfeild-Browne View Post
    I really wish you'd SHUT UP, Jack! I've been hearing about that darn 150 2.8 from you for some time now, and tonight I finally broke down and ordered one.
    I will go on record that the 150/2.8 is *NOT* a mandatory lens in every Mamiya kit! All I said is that it is perhaps the best lens I have ever owned or tested, period. () The hard fact is though, that I rarely use mine except when I'm doing studio work and even then, am almost convinced it is too good for people -- seriously, I have considered selling it because of those two reasons. (But then it is the perhaps the single best piece of optics I have ever used or tested )

    The reality for me is the 75-150 is the lens that is mounted on my camera most of the time -- so please don't be surprised if you see my 150/2.8 in the B&S one day. In fact Bill, if it's not too late, I might be tempted to sell you mine which is a confirmed stellar copy...
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    none of this helps...


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    Certainly does not help anyone trying to be thrifty . Your all gear sluts. I say that scouring to buy stuff before my wife gets into my paypal account.
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    Re: Okay MAMIYA 645AFD shooters, share your Lens knowledge..Please!!

    The copy of my 75-150 was very good and if I wasn’t using the 28 I used that one. I forget who I sold the 28 to but Jack – didn’t you get the 75-150?

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    Don't hold back. I got a nasty itch right now. LOL
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    Re: Okay MAMIYA 645AFD shooters, share your Lens knowledge..Please!!

    It's funny. I feel exactly like Jack. Love the lens, it is one of the best I have ever seen. (Besides the Leica 28 R and a few M lenses) However I am too really thinking about selling mine. The problem is that out of all of my images the lens is not used that often. (I would say it is not long enough and not short enough.) So for usage on the AFD it is more or less like this:

    45D - 55%
    80D - 35%
    150D - 10%

    On the other hand if i would shoot in a studio or people, I probably would use it much more often. It just hurts to see such a great lens, used so little.

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    He he, this forum is FUN, and you guys sorry to say but really are a bit nuts

    Btw Jack, even so I'll be very likely cashed out for a while after the MF system purchase, let me know when you do sale your 150 2.8, I might spend a day on the strip and get some money for it

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    Re: Okay MAMIYA 645AFD shooters, share your Lens knowledge..Please!!

    Quote Originally Posted by Iron Creek View Post
    The copy of my 75-150 was very good and if I wasn’t using the 28 I used that one. I forget who I sold the 28 to but Jack – didn’t you get the 75-150?
    Yep, I sure did -- and thank you very much!
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    Re: Okay MAMIYA 645AFD shooters, share your Lens knowledge..Please!!

    Quote Originally Posted by KETCH ROSSI View Post
    He he, this forum is FUN, and you guys sorry to say but really are a bit nuts

    Btw Jack, even so I'll be very likely cashed out for a while after the MF system purchase, let me know when you do sale your 150 2.8, I might spend a day on the strip and get some money for it
    I will sell it as soon as somebody offers me $2000 for it, so go hit the strip!
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