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    New leaf 22 back... 5.995 only !!!

    http://www.leaf-photography.com/file..._datasheet.pdf

    Leaf Aptus-II 5 specifications
    CCD 48 x 36mm
    Resolution 22 MP
    Capture rate 0.9 sec/frame
    ISO sensitivity 25-400
    Dynamic range 12 f-stops

    if it is as good as my aptus 22, it's a bargain !

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    I wonder what the price will be in the UK? If it's a good price then this will be seriously tempting.

    David

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    Re: New leaf 22 back... 5.995 only !!!

    Quote Originally Posted by David A View Post
    I wonder what the price will be in the UK? If it's a good price then this will be seriously tempting.

    David
    http://www.leaf-photography.com/specials_aptus2_5.asp

    Contact Peartree for a quote and availability if you're serious.

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    sooo, for about half the price of an M9 plus Noctilux, one can get into MF?

    Interesting times...

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    it's an S2 spoiler...

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    Re: New leaf 22 back... 5.995 only !!!

    So when will these puppies actually be shipping?

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    I would be extremely interested in seeing prints/files of the same scene from this Leaf Aptus-II 5 back and a 1Ds Mark III.

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    Re: New leaf 22 back... 5.995 only !!!

    Quote Originally Posted by tashley View Post
    it's an S2 spoiler...
    If we're going to make irrelevant comparisons, a Sony A850 would be a better choice. $2,000 and 24MP including body....

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    I think 2010 will be a year remembered as the year DMF stuck in. Lucky us that we'll finally get into DMF while we can still walk!
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    Re: New leaf 22 back... 5.995 only !!!

    Before buying my P30+, I have shot with various cameras including 1Ds MKIII. If some of you are thinking that megapixel is everything (which I did previously) you are wrong. The dynamic range and lack of AA filter of the MFDB are what you will notice immediately when you start to compare files from a back and a high-end DSLR. The images from my P30+ look like a sheet of thin translucent satin has been removed from my images shot with the 1Ds MKIII. Mind you both are sharp (although P30+ files are still crispier) but the tonality from MFDB is really nicer, smoother and less "digital".

    If funds permit, keep whatever DSLR you are happily using and go buy a MFDB, even if you can only afford to buy a kit with its standard lens. You'll love it.

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    and with dslr you can't have wide angles distortion free as the 35 XL digitar with a MF back !

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    Re: New leaf 22 back... 5.995 only !!!

    Quote Originally Posted by routlaw View Post
    So when will these puppies actually be shipping?
    2-3 weeks

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    Hmmmm.


    I have a Bronica SQ-A plus three good lenses - this could be interesting.

    The Bron is 2 1/4 square - the spec on the Leaf says the CCD is 48 x 36mm - does that cause issues?

    Cheers,

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    Re: New leaf 22 back... 5.995 only !!!

    Quote Originally Posted by JohnH View Post
    Hmmmm.


    I have a Bronica SQ-A plus three good lenses - this could be interesting.

    The Bron is 2 1/4 square - the spec on the Leaf says the CCD is 48 x 36mm - does that cause issues?

    Cheers,

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    One issue (at least with the KG version) is that the back cannot be rotated on the camera so vertical framing requires a 90 prism

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    Quote Originally Posted by pcunite View Post
    I would be extremely interested in seeing prints/files of the same scene from this Leaf Aptus-II 5 back and a 1Ds Mark III.
    I can't remember where you are located, but if you can make it to a GetDPI workshop, or to Miami or Atlanta we'd be happy to have you do your own comparison of these two systems (we're a Leaf and Canon dealer); this can be done in your normal shooting style with your normal subject matter. No one else's comparisons are going to mean as much to you. That would also let you get a sense for the difference in shooting style - the speed limitations of medium format as well as the difference in feel of the larger viewfinder and more mechanical attachment to the image making process (my opinion only - that's why you should try yourself).

    But yes, in short, as a big fan of the 1Ds III and 5D Mark II there is a world of difference in the look, feel, and technical attributes of those systems and all the current Leaf and Phase backs.

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    Ooooooo, this could push used 17 and the 22 backs closer to my budget!

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    Quote Originally Posted by PhotoTurbo View Post
    Ooooooo, this could push used 17 and the 22 backs closer to my budget!
    my thoughts exactly!

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    Re: New leaf 22 back... 5.995 only !!!

    Especially that nice 17 back that I've mused about plenty times over the years!
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    I think 2010 will be a year remembered as the year DMF stuck in.
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    It will be interesting if there is continued downward price pressure. The 'blad CFV 39 at $13,995 is, IIRC, a new low for a new 39 MP back.

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    So has anyone in Europe actually found the Aptus 22 for sale at 5,995 ?

    It seems a bit misleading for Leaf to clearly advertise 5,995. while in small print below it says "For local pricing, consult your Leaf dealer".

    The actual price is closer to 7000 which is still a good price but a 1000 is a 1000.....................

    And if you can find that Phase One 645 for that advertised 2000 then you are doing well.

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    So has anyone in Europe actually found the Aptus 22 for sale at 5,995 ?

    It seems a bit misleading for Leaf to clearly advertise 5,995. while in small print below it says "For local pricing, consult your Leaf dealer".

    The actual price is closer to 7000 which is still a good price but a 1000 is a 1000.....................

    And if you can find that Phase One 645 for that advertised 2000 then you are doing well.

    Hi Aaron,
    Sadly there is no Leaf dealer in Ireland at present, your nearest dealer would be Peartree in UK. The link to their website is:

    http://www.peartreephoto.com/news.php

    They are selling the Aptus Ii 5 at 5995 exc Vat and the PhaseOne AF body and 80mm digital lens for 2000 exc Vat if bought in conjunction with a back.
    There is also an option to buy the DF body and Leaf Shutter 80mm lens instead for 3000 exc Vat, though delivery of the latter will not be to the end of this quarter.

    Hope this helps.

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    Quote Originally Posted by TheTubbyPixel View Post

    Hi Aaron,
    Sadly there is no Leaf dealer in Ireland at present, your nearest dealer would be Peartree in UK. The link to their website is:

    http://www.peartreephoto.com/news.php

    They are selling the Aptus Ii 5 at 5995 exc Vat and the PhaseOne AF body and 80mm digital lens for 2000 exc Vat if bought in conjunction with a back.
    There is also an option to buy the DF body and Leaf Shutter 80mm lens instead for 3000 exc Vat, though delivery of the latter will not be to the end of this quarter.

    Hope this helps.
    Thanks but thats Pounds not Euros.

    I am just wondering why Leaf advertise on their site €5995 ? Where?
    Peartree in the Uk are selling them at €7,630 inc tax at todays exchange rate.

    Since Leaf have everyone talking about a MFD at €5,995, i am just wondering where i can get one?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Aaron View Post
    Thanks but thats Pounds not Euros.

    I am just wondering why Leaf advertise on their site 5995 ? Where?
    Peartree in the Uk are selling them at 7,630 inc tax at todays exchange rate.

    Since Leaf have everyone talking about a MFD at 5,995, i am just wondering where i can get one?
    Hi Aaron,

    The website quotes price exclusive of VAT as VAT rates differ considerably across the EU. Current rates in the UK is 15%.

    Which would bring the price to 6,894.25 for a Aptus II 5 inc VAT.

    If you are registered for VAT and have a valid VAT number, the company can ship free of VAT provided the goods are shipped outside the UK.

    I don't know whether it is the same in Ireland, but VAT registered photographers can claim back all the VAT as capital expenditure in the UK.

    Hope this information helps.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Aaron View Post
    Thanks but thats Pounds not Euros.

    I am just wondering why Leaf advertise on their site 5995 ? Where?
    Peartree in the Uk are selling them at 7,630 inc tax at todays exchange rate.

    Since Leaf have everyone talking about a MFD at 5,995, i am just wondering where i can get one?
    Conventions of including or not including tax in the listed price vary between countries and regions. You'll almost never see pricing with tax included in the US.

    Maybe that has something to do with it.

    I never liked the convention of including tax in the price as I think politically it allows the government to increase tax with less transparency on the final price. I like the unpleasant reminder at the checkout that my goods/services would be cheaper if not for the government - it makes me more motivated to hold my government accountable for what and how they spend.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Darius_Gelich View Post
    Hi Aaron,

    The website quotes price exclusive of VAT as VAT rates differ considerably across the EU. Current rates in the UK is 15%.

    Which would bring the price to 6,894.25 for a Aptus II 5 inc VAT.

    If you are registered for VAT and have a valid VAT number, the company can ship free of VAT provided the goods are shipped outside the UK.

    I don't know whether it is the same in Ireland, but VAT registered photographers can claim back all the VAT as capital expenditure in the UK.

    Hope this information helps.
    Thanks for that Darius.

    However, i am not really referring to the price being quoted ex. vat.

    The price is listed on Leafs website as 5,995 not 5,995.
    But no one appears to be selling this back for 5,995 so i just think its a little misleading.
    Peartree for example, are selling it at 6,634 (ex, vat). which to be fair is still a good price but just not the advertised one by Leaf...maybe i am just a total penny pincher

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    Quote Originally Posted by Aaron View Post
    Thanks for that Darius.

    However, i am not really referring to the price being quoted ex. vat.

    The price is listed on Leafs website as 5,995 not 5,995.
    But no one appears to be selling this back for 5,995 so i just think its a little misleading.
    Peartree for example, are selling it at 6,634 (ex, vat). which to be fair is still a good price but just not the advertised one by Leaf...maybe i am just a total penny pincher
    Hi Aaron
    Whilst the price quoted is in Euros, we at Peartree buy in Euros and then sadly sell in pounds so prices are set at the exchange rate when we commit to buy. However I have spoken to one of my Directors and he has said he will honour for this week only 5995 Euros at an agreed exchange rate, and offer you the chance to buy the PhaseOne 645 AF and 80mm Digital lens for an additional 2000 Euros.. . .BARGAIN!.These prices exclude Vat and shipping.

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    Can't get much better service than that, surely?
    I hope someone takes you up on your offer. Sadly, I'm poor so it won't be me!

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    I would hope that those who complained the loudest about the prices would jump at this offer...
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    Quote Originally Posted by Darius_Gelich View Post
    Hi Aaron
    Whilst the price quoted is in Euros, we at Peartree buy in Euros and then sadly sell in pounds so prices are set at the exchange rate when we commit to buy. However I have spoken to one of my Directors and he has said he will honour for this week only 5995 Euros at an agreed exchange rate, and offer you the chance to buy the PhaseOne 645 AF and 80mm Digital lens for an additional 2000 Euros.. . .BARGAIN!.These prices exclude Vat and shipping.
    Thanks for the offer Darius, its refreshing!
    However i am holding out for the DF body & Leaf Shutter, i didn't realise its not actually available yet.
    When does Peartree extect to have them available to the uk market?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Aaron View Post
    Thanks for the offer Darius, its refreshing!
    However i am holding out for the DF body & Leaf Shutter, i didn't realise its not actually available yet.
    When does Peartree extect to have them available to the uk market?
    Hi Aaron,

    The DF body and 80mm lens will be shipping before Christmas (this year!) The current offer is order any Leaf Aptus back before end October 2009 and Purchase the new PhaseOne DF body and 80mm LS lens for an additional 3000 Euros. List price is currently 4990.00 A deposit of 20% secures at current prices! We await your call.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Darius_Gelich View Post
    Hi Aaron,

    The DF body and 80mm lens will be shipping before Christmas (this year!) The current offer is order any Leaf Aptus back before end October 2009
    Hmmm it's already the 3rd of November so does the offer still stand?

    David

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    Quote Originally Posted by David A View Post
    Hmmm it's already the 3rd of November so does the offer still stand?

    David
    Hi David, I guess we can creep you under the wire, if you're quick!

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