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    Whats the new MF camera?

    MR on LL has just announced that he will be testing a new MF camera that will knock peoplee's socks off this Sunday...

    Any thoughts on what it might be?

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    Re: Whats the new MF camera?

    DF what else is there or a HD4. LOL
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    Re: Whats the new MF camera?

    Apparently - not a current player - it is new.

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    Re: Whats the new MF camera?

    Red (a guess)

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    Re: Whats the new MF camera?

    Blue. Secret Military Camera. LOL
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    Re: Whats the new MF camera?

    you guys sound about as interested as I am

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    Re: Whats the new MF camera?

    I'm guessing it's the Pentax MF digital entry which is supposed to launch officially in Q1 2010...
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    Yea unless I could use it than not really. Maybe Contax came back from the dead or Pentax came to life.

    Jack you need to stop reading my mind, we posted the same time. LOL
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    Re: Whats the new MF camera?

    Well he told us it is not RED, H4D or Phase, so what could it be ? Something special, which i think will not be anything with film. (As nice as film is, I don't think it will knock of every bodies socks.)

    Nobody really expects anything from Sony, Canon or Nikon.

    I really have know clue at the moment. It could be a fantastic surprise.

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    Re: Whats the new MF camera?

    Congrats on the new back Jack - ( gearhead!)

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    Re: Whats the new MF camera?

    Quote Originally Posted by PeterA View Post
    Congrats on the new back Jack - ( gearhead!)
    Thanks, but it 'aint here yet LOL!!!
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    Re: Whats the new MF camera?

    I feel like tossing 'em all out and starting again - probably with Phase just waiting on Sinar to deliver alternative mounts on an artec ( H mount & Phase) - which is the piece of kit I am really wanting. oh and the othe piece of kit I am waiting on - is that vapourware from Leica - the M9.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Christopher View Post
    Well he told us it is not RED, H4D or Phase, so what could it be ? Something special, which i think will not be anything with film. (As nice as film is, I don't think it will knock of every bodies socks.)

    Nobody really expects anything from Sony, Canon or Nikon.

    I really have know clue at the moment. It could be a fantastic surprise.
    My socks need a lot to be knocked off. If it ain't a freight train than forgetaboutit.

    Seriously nice to have options for sure. Pentax seems to be the only thing close to ready though.
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    Re: Whats the new MF camera?

    Quote Originally Posted by PeterA View Post
    I feel like tossing 'em all out and starting again - probably with Phase just waiting on Sinar to deliver alternative mounts on an artec ( H mount & Phase) - which is the piece of kit I am really wanting. oh and the othe piece of kit I am waiting on - is that vapourware from Leica - the M9.
    They still have not hit down under yet. You can fly me out there and i will hand deliver it .
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    Re: Whats the new MF camera?

    A new MF Holga?

    I was just looking at the Red web site.
    At the bottom of the description of their current roadmap/upgrade plan they say
    "Everything is subject to change, Count on it"
    love it
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    Quote Originally Posted by Guy Mancuso View Post
    They still have not hit down under yet. You can fly me out there and i will hand deliver it .
    i think your way woudl end up being cheaper too -

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    Re: Whats the new MF camera?

    Supposedly not Pentax either.

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    Quote Originally Posted by PeterA View Post
    i think your way woudl end up being cheaper too -
    Most likely would. LOL Although i will kill your bar bill and steak budget for sure. LOL
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    Re: Whats the new MF camera?

    Quote Originally Posted by PeterA View Post
    I feel like tossing 'em all out and starting again - probably with Phase just waiting on Sinar to deliver alternative mounts on an artec ( H mount & Phase) - which is the piece of kit I am really wanting. oh and the othe piece of kit I am waiting on - is that vapourware from Leica - the M9.
    I hear you -- but the fact the Sinar has no M mount has me looking very seriously at the new Arca M-Line 2 for digital -- coupled with a Rotaslide, I think that's my baby.
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    Re: Whats the new MF camera?

    Hmm. Has me curious also. He's already kicked out Red, Pentax and Hasselblad as possibilities, he's already reviewed the DF, so that doesn't leave much for medium format (digital). Although he didn't say digital...


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    Re: Whats the new MF camera?

    Quote Originally Posted by Jack Flesher View Post
    I hear you -- but the fact the Sinar has no M mount has me looking very seriously at the new Arca M-Line 2 for digital -- coupled with a Rotaslide, I think that's my baby.
    Jack - I would wait for Sinar ( the new sensible company ex Jenoptic) to deliver Phase M mount version before making final decision - the whole system is the least clunky device one can buy - you know all the compromises we have to make with any tech camera solution - artec delivers better than anyone else. My system dream is the artec with 23/40 and 90 in HR from Rodenstock for landscape and still life.

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    Quote Originally Posted by PeterA View Post
    Jack - I would wait for Sinar ( the new sensible company ex Jenoptic) to deliver Phase M mount version before making final decision - the whole system is the least clunky device one can buy - you know all the compromises we have to make with any tech camera solution - artec delivers better than anyone else. My system dream is the artec with 23/40 and 90 in HR from Rodenstock for landscape and still life.

    LOL -- my trio of lenses is the 23, 40 and 70 HR to start, then maybe the regular 105 after that. The other camera option is the Arca RM3D with Rotaslide. I'm sick of waiting on all of them, but at least the M-line 2 is available now... Don't get me wrong, I agree the Sinar is an impressive solution -- just tired of the whole exclude Mamiya mount from the original marketing decision...
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    This always seemed to me to be the logical way to sell a ton (relatively speaking) arTecs, i.e. provide a Mamiya mount, or at least contribute to the path. As Peter suggests, it's now even more logical for Sinar to offer the arTec in as many mounts as possible.

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    I just love guessing into the blues ;-)

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    Oh the lenses, the LENSES! OMG they will be just fabulous!
    That is if they have any

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    Quote Originally Posted by PeterA View Post
    oh and the othe piece of kit I am waiting on - is that vapourware from Leica - the M9.
    Well, you are in a better position that I am sitting here on a small mountain of R lenses still waiting for an R10 from Leica!

    Guy doesn't need any more gear announcements, he can hardly sleep as it is.

    New camera - from Alpa an XYZ

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    Re: Whats the new MF camera?

    Jack we are reading from same page - I am 'over' all the MFD shenanigans - good to see you have are buyng teh big boy Phase One - my (early) New years resolution is to rationalise my whole MF kit set down to - one ( gasp ).

    No longer in good faith supporter of Hasselblad' sneaky forced upgrade if you want the latest tech every 18 months - frst the price discount that killed me - and now a new better body / autofocus system - but your lousy H3D11-39 back is now old and you need a new back to be able to upgrade a body...blah blah blah ..I am so over this silliness - tired ( not grumpy anymore) because I actually dont care anymore....

    think you can organise me a good deal? -

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    Quote Originally Posted by Guy Mancuso View Post
    Most likely would. LOL Although i will kill your bar bill and steak budget for sure. LOL
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    Re: Whats the new MF camera?

    Well about a year ago I sold all my camera gear and invested heavily in gold... on margin no less. Then I woke up

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    I'm not saying that it's Seitz, but people always forget this amazing little company. If I were a landscape shooter, I'd be having a very close look at these cameras. 160MP panos? Lovely.

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    I'll put my money on Pentax.

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    Whatever it is, I'd bet it'll be out of my price range, lol. Someone over at lula had mentioned the Bessa III... hmmmm

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bill_Green View Post
    I'll put my money on Pentax.
    MR already publicly said no on Pentax (bummer). He always loved the pentax bodies, so maybe he's just evading us. Pentax had some killer MF glass. I'd LOVE to see them come through.

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    Re: Whats the new MF camera?

    If it's not the Pentax, which is apparently getting closer to launch:



    ... my guess is Fuji. It's a long shot, but they are still manufacturing film MF. Since they are apparently not allowed to sell the digital versions of the Hasselblad under their own label, and since they seem to be out of DSLR, they need something else to stay in the pro market.

    I'm probably wrong, but it would be interesting, wouldn't it?

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    MR just posted a "What's New" featuring the "Scarlet".
    http://luminous-landscape.com/whatsnew/

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    But MR also said "no" when RED was brought up...

    ... I'm bumfoozled at this point.

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    Nikon BIG

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    Quote Originally Posted by Guy Mancuso View Post
    DF what else is there or a HD4. LOL
    H4D of course

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    Re: Whats the new MF camera?

    Maybe this one?


    Last edited by yaya; 1st December 2009 at 00:24.

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    What on earth is it?

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    Re: Whats the new MF camera?

    That looks like a Hartblei

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    Quote Originally Posted by cmb_ View Post
    Well, you are in a better position that I am sitting here on a small mountain of R lenses still waiting for an R10 from Leica!

    Guy doesn't need any more gear announcements, he can hardly sleep as it is.

    New camera - from Alpa an XYZ
    i am selling an XY from alpa, drop me an email if interested.
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    Quote Originally Posted by foto-z View Post
    I'm not saying that it's Seitz, but people always forget this amazing little company. If I were a landscape shooter, I'd be having a very close look at these cameras. 160MP panos? Lovely.
    +1 for Seitz, Can't imagine what else is going to "knock your socks off", certainly not the Hartblei.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jack Flesher View Post
    Thanks, but it 'aint here yet LOL!!!
    I am curious why you went for the P65+? It was a good deal, as you said, but it has no long exposure times, and I thought that you were using that regularly?
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    You havent eaten steak till you have had one down here oh and the beers are ok to -
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    My bet is on the Bessa III or the Hartblei.
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    Quote Originally Posted by carstenw View Post
    I am curious why you went for the P65+? It was a good deal, as you said, but it has no long exposure times, and I thought that you were using that regularly?
    LOL He wrote it all out in a e-mail to me and made perfect sense. My reply was could you send this to my wife to justify my next purchase.


    Reality is the upgrade paths Phase just announced to the P65 from the P45 is quite good. Yes i did encourage it regardless of the size of the sensor which reality is not that important in this upgrade but better with a tech camera on several levels , no wake up cable and less LCC corrections needed on the Dalsa sensor. He picks up at least a full stop in ISO at full res. plus the sensor + which is actually quite handy. 1/6000 flash sync. Newer firmware on the back with some nice features and takes newer CF cards. The list goes on and actually made a lot of sense . Besides keeping the value of his system going which is a big plus.
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    Re: Whats the new MF camera?

    Well the P65 does some very nice exposures up to around 40 seconds. So I would guess it is enough for most things. If I needed something longer for a specific thing I would just go and rent a P45 for that time period.

    When it comes to Seitz, I really like the idea, but what I have seen so far is that per pixel level is not that great. So I would even risk saying that two stitched P65 frames are already a lot superior. However this is just based on crops I have seen so far. No real life test.

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    Quote Originally Posted by yaya View Post
    Maybe this one?


    yes, yaya is right. my little birds tell me that MR is testing the Hartblei CAM. and it seems that he has extremely knowledgable support staff for the test---))))
    this for a change is interesting.
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    Re: Whats the new MF camera?

    Gentlemen - check out the Hartblei site - worth the effort...

    http://www.hartblei.eu/en/hartbleicam1.htm

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