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    I took the plunge, I purchased a H3D-39

    I am now an official member of the MF world.
    After trying a Phase one Body with a Leaf Aptus II 5
    I came across a used H3D-39 body only with 2 batteries, 12000 actuations for $6500.00 I couldn't resist so I went for it.

    Now comes the hard choices on which hc lenses to start with..
    Landscape stuff only btw.

    I am for sure getting the 28mm
    Now I can't figure out whether to go with the 50-110 zoom and a 210mm or..
    go primes
    50mm, 100mm, 150mm 1.7tc


    thanks everyone
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    Re: I took the plunge, I purchased a H3D-39

    Hi,
    congratulations to your new purchase. The lens choice zoom vs. primes
    is a question of personal preferences. All i can say is that the HC 2.2/100
    is a must have IMO. Before making a decision, have you seen and hold
    the 50-110 ? It feels like a bucket full of glass, so far heard only good things
    about its quality though.
    Anyway, just some thoughts, i would contact a local Hasselblad dealer and
    try some of those lenses before buying.
    Regards,
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    Re: I took the plunge, I purchased a H3D-39

    Thanks Ralf,
    So I guess for me it's whether to go with the 50mm prime and the 100mm prime or just go for the 50-110.
    Im always going to be on a tripod so weight is really not a concern, and for traveling purposes the 50mm prime weighs 975G and the 100mm weight is 780G so together they weigh 1755G the 50-110mm weighs 1650G so basically for traveling and backpacking the 50-110 lighter. I understand though forget hand holding the 50-110 all together.

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    Re: I took the plunge, I purchased a H3D-39

    There were a few threads on Luminous Landscape about the zoom's poor quality. Reichmann had one fall apart in his hands.

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    Re: I took the plunge, I purchased a H3D-39

    I use the zoom really often and I use it hand held. Yes, it is heavy but it is excellent. It is better than the 50,80 but less than the 100. I also use the 100/2.2 which is my most used lens.

    The quality of the zoom is debatable. There have been people that had the front element fall off and some believe this problem is still there. My zoom needs to be repaired after the season (mid April). Something broke off inside and is now hindering the functionality (read getting stuck so I cannot zoom sometimes from 80 to 110 unless I shake the lens to get it loose. It sometimes prevents me from infinity focus as well until I shake it loose).

    The IQ of this lens is superb though!

    But... so is the 100 and the 210.

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    Re: I took the plunge, I purchased a H3D-39

    Congrats on the new camera Steve, and welcome to MF land!!!
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    Re: I took the plunge, I purchased a H3D-39

    Well, wouldn't you know that the Reichmann one would fall apart. There was an issue with early ones that is well publicised but mine has been faultless. By the time I bought mine a few years back, they came with a handling info sheet which advised against standing it on the front etc.

    As a landscape shooter, I am a fairly gentle and low volume user. It is a superb lense, which is on most of the time. In fact, it is so good that I get lazy and don't bother changing it when I probably should. I also have the 28, 100, 150 and 210, which are all excellent.

    The 39 is a wonderful camera. Congratulations on your purchase.
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    Re: I took the plunge, I purchased a H3D-39

    Hi Ralf,

    Why do you say the HC 2.2/100 is a must buy? From the MTF specs, from my reading, it looks poorer than the HC 2.8/80. Though this is not the first time I heard a recommendation for the 100 vs 80.

    Quote Originally Posted by rmueller View Post
    Hi,
    congratulations to your new purchase. The lens choice zoom vs. primes
    is a question of personal preferences. All i can say is that the HC 2.2/100
    is a must have IMO. Before making a decision, have you seen and hold
    the 50-110 ? It feels like a bucket full of glass, so far heard only good things
    about its quality though.
    Anyway, just some thoughts, i would contact a local Hasselblad dealer and
    try some of those lenses before buying.
    Regards,
    Ralf

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    Re: I took the plunge, I purchased a H3D-39

    Quote Originally Posted by P. Chong View Post
    Hi Ralf,

    Why do you say the HC 2.2/100 is a must buy? From the MTF specs, from my reading, it looks poorer than the HC 2.8/80. Though this is not the first time I heard a recommendation for the 100 vs 80.
    Hi P. Chong,

    What i like about the 100 is it's behavior wide open and in close distance
    to the subject. It has that nice short DOF with a smooth transition into
    unsharpness. Since i use it with the H3DII-31 it is almost a portrait lens
    while the 80 is too short for most of the cases. Nevertheless, you're right
    that the 80 is a very fine lens too, although it has different bokeh.

    Attached image straight out of Phocus, ISO400, f2.2 at 1/200

    Best Regards,
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    Re: I took the plunge, I purchased a H3D-39

    Congratulations on the new camera and the price especially!!

    The price equates to an mint used HC lens less than what we pay for a D3x down here in Australia. All the HC lenses deliver what they were designed to deliver so it is up to you to choose the focal lengths you prefer in landscape - don't forget:

    Using the CF adaptor you can use any C/CF/CFe/Cfi series V mount lens in stop down form - with focus confirm and aperture priority mode.

    this means that for non auto focus / non studio lighting high sync speed related work - you can over pretty much any focal length via ( now) cheaper Zeiss glass.

    Which also means that buying a 500 series camera body and a film back gives you 6x6 format film capability as well with dual purpose lenses shooting the way they were designed to be used in 6X6 guise..

    Phocus 2 is a fantastic piece of software with inbuilt lens corrections now also covering a lot of the high quality Zeiss formulations as well.

    makes sure you a have a lot of ram and a recommended graphics card to get the most out of the software.

    Happy Shooting.

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    Re: I took the plunge, I purchased a H3D-39

    Thanks Ralf. I am about to close on a H3D-39 as well, but not at that fantastic price that Kuau snagged it at. (What a great price!)

    Hijacking this thread: Any one think it worthwhile to pay about 30% more for the ii series? I know that except for the lcd size, IR filter and fan, they are virtually the same. And picture IQ is indistinguishable.

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    Re: I took the plunge, I purchased a H3D-39

    Thanks everyone, Yeah I am really excited. I am now an official member of the medium format forum.

    I found a great deal on a HCD28 and a 50-110mm zoom so I think I will start with that and maybe pickup a used 150 or a 210 then add the 1.7 tc
    Hope to start posting some pics in the near future.

    I just started listing my Nikon stuff if anyone is interested....
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    Re: I took the plunge, I purchased a H3D-39

    Congrats Steve glad to see you jump in. Let's see some images soon.
    Photography is all about experimentation and without it you will never learn art.

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    Re: I took the plunge, I purchased a H3D-39

    Guy,
    Copy that!!

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    Re: I took the plunge, I purchased a H3D-39

    Late to the party, but Congrats, Steve. MF is a wonderful (and slippery) slope.

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    Re: I took the plunge, I purchased a H3D-39

    Congrats!

    I bought mine 3 months ago and I never had any regrets!

    great camera, great system, great SW (Phocus 2.0)

    Enjoy!

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    Re: I took the plunge, I purchased a H3D-39

    Peter you need to change your Avatar. LOL

    Your shooting a Phase there bud. Actually that image is from one of the workshops where Steve and Peter attended.
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    Re: I took the plunge, I purchased a H3D-39

    Quote Originally Posted by Guy Mancuso View Post
    Peter you need to change your Avatar. LOL

    Your shooting a Phase there bud. Actually that image is from one of the workshops where Steve and Peter attended.
    Well,

    never say never again

    Sure, you are right I need to change, so I need to attend another workshop to get a decent avatar picture

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    Re: I took the plunge, I purchased a H3D-39

    Exactly
    Photography is all about experimentation and without it you will never learn art.

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    Re: I took the plunge, I purchased a H3D-39

    if anyone is looking for a very nice H3D-39 with 80mm lens, let me know

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    Re: I took the plunge, I purchased a H3D-39

    I have proceeded and purchasing today the 28 and 50-110mm zoom. I got just to good of a deal to pass up, both lenses have under 1000 actuations and complete with box, pouch etc.
    So now I just don't know whether to go for the 150mm, I really like the FOV of the 150mm very similar to my Nikon 85mm lens which I use all the time and then pick up the 1.7x tc in the future or.. get the 210mm

    Any advvice

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    Re: I took the plunge, I purchased a H3D-39

    Steven,

    It's difficult to advise another photographer on focal length choices, but as one who shoots mostly landscape (with a mix of other subjects and styles included), and as one who owns 150mm and 210mm lenses (Mamiya), I use the 150mm FL far more often than the 210. My 210 is quite nice, but a bit long for much of what I do in MF.

    That said, in your case you have 110mm covered, so you'll need to decide if 150 is too small an increment. I have 120mm also, so I guess for me 150 is still important.

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    Re: I took the plunge, I purchased a H3D-39

    I have similar thoughts WRT 150 or 210. Cannot decide so far, need to test both lenses and then see which one fits better my needs.

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    The other alternative worth to consider is the 180mm CFI. It is a highly regarded lens and fits nicely between the 150 and 210 range. Just a thought...

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    Re: I took the plunge, I purchased a H3D-39

    IMO they're different enough focals that one can justify both. There is also the converter option, which may make the 210 more compelling. All that said, if I had to choose one over the other, I know I use the 120 through 150 range on MF about 4 times as often as anything longer. That is for my usage requirement and I realize YMMV...
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    Re: I took the plunge, I purchased a H3D-39

    Thanks again everyone for all your help and advice.
    Right now I am leaning towards the HC 150mm. I am like Jack
    Then in the future get the 1.7x tc

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    Re: I took the plunge, I purchased a H3D-39

    Actually the 150 with the TC 1.7 is a very good combination. I also doubt I would go for the 210.

    I currently have the 28, 100 and will most probably get the 150 next. And I am also pretty fix starter for the 35-90.

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    Re: I took the plunge, I purchased a H3D-39

    Quote Originally Posted by kuau View Post
    I am now an official member of the MF world.
    After trying a Phase one Body with a Leaf Aptus II 5
    I came across a used H3D-39 body only with 2 batteries, 12000 actuations for $6500.00 I couldn't resist so I went for it.

    Now comes the hard choices on which hc lenses to start with..
    Landscape stuff only btw.

    I am for sure getting the 28mm
    Now I can't figure out whether to go with the 50-110 zoom and a 210mm or..
    go primes
    50mm, 100mm, 150mm 1.7tc


    thanks everyone
    Congrats

    Wow, looks like a great deal.

    I still can't believe the IQ & detail with my ZD. I'm having fun just zooming in & out on the images. Just blows me away.

    Have fun

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    Re: I took the plunge, I purchased a H3D-39

    To add insult to injury...
    I just got in the mail today my Multiflex Head $1130.00 shipped with an extra knob and leather pouch.
    I have never seen a Cube up close and I am sure they are beautiful, yet...
    I would rather save the $600 and use that towards my next lens.

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    Re: I took the plunge, I purchased a H3D-39

    I have also recently bought the H3D2-39 - it came with a 28 and a 80

    So selling all my Canon lenses, I needed new glass and I went for the 100 and the 210 and recently purchased the 120 also for commercial stilllife.

    Actually i purchased the 150 and the 1.7 extender, but send the 150 back and had it replaced with the 210, because the 100 + 1.7 extender is very close in performance to the 150 itself.

    So my lineup is 28 - 80 - 100 - 120 - 210 + the 1.7 extender - and now I just need the 50 or a zoom

    Congrats on your camerapurchase - It´s a true gem !!!

    Enjoy

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    Re: I took the plunge, I purchased a H3D-39

    If I got the HC150mm and wanted to also do some close up stuff on occasion what would be the right extension tube to get the HE 13 or the HE 26 I don't think I need 1:1 i think 1:2 would be fine.

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    Re: I took the plunge, I purchased a H3D-39

    Get the 13mm

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    Re: I took the plunge, I purchased a H3D-39

    I currently have a ZD camera which I have owned for several years (an underrated camera in my view), but I am looking at upgrading it to a Hassy, most likely a H3D-39 or 39II. The price of a decent H3D-39 has fallen quite a lot. $6,500 is in the right ball park for body only. MF is becoming more affordable if you are willing to buy a camera a few years old. My only issue is whether it might be worth leasing an H4D-40, but the senosr crop concerns me a little for landscape work.

    the reason for a Hassy move is integration. I want to use the HTS 1.5 at some stage and I like the idea the camera firmware and Phocus will identify the lens, use of tilt / shift with the HTS and correct accordingly.

    I have no idea about Hassy lenses - but I know I'll need a macro. Is the 120 F4 Macro useable on a H3D as a portrait lens? I'm guessing it's a little short for head and shoulders portraiture. And how good is the macro at infinity?

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    Re: I took the plunge, I purchased a H3D-39

    Quentin, is your concern about the crop factor solely to do with wide lenses? I am wrestling with the thought of a 40 at the moment. The new chip seems great even compared to the 39 that I now have.

    You may find the 120 a bit of a lump. The focus is that of a typical macro - lots of throw, and slow autofocus. It wouldn't be my first choice. The 100 or 150 would be a better choice.
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    Re: I took the plunge, I purchased a H3D-39

    Quote Originally Posted by Jeffg53 View Post
    Quentin, is your concern about the crop factor solely to do with wide lenses? I am wrestling with the thought of a 40 at the moment. The new chip seems great even compared to the 39 that I now have.

    You may find the 120 a bit of a lump. The focus is that of a typical macro - lots of throw, and slow autofocus. It wouldn't be my first choice. The 100 or 150 would be a better choice.
    I recently made that jump Jeff ... from a H3D-II/39 to a H4D/40. I shoot mostly people ... like environmental portraits, and directed wedding candids, as well as travel and street. For those applications even the 28 on a crop frame will see little use. When I shot with a H3D-II/31 the 100mm was the most used followed by the 50 followed by the 150. The 120 macro never leaves the studio and I've never even used the AF on that lens. I really only needed the 28 for big group shots at weddings ... or environmental portraits that were going to be printed 20 X 24 or larger. I recently got the 210 so I'm not sure what useage that'll get ... but I tend toward longer than shorter for some of the new ideas I have to expand my work. I also need the higher ISO ability of the H4D/40 ... that's one thing I know for sure.

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    Re: I took the plunge, I purchased a H3D-39

    Thanks Marc, I was wondering which way you had jumped. I take it that you are more than happy with the 40 after the 39. That high ISO is appealing. I also tend to longer rather than shorter so a crop doesn't bother me. The longer the 60 takes to appear the more appealing is the 40. I have the 40 on loan over Easter so I'm looking forward to giving it a more thorough workout.
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    Re: I took the plunge, I purchased a H3D-39

    Choosing between the 39 or 40 is a matter of what you need. As a landscape photographer I am clearly leaning towards the 39 because of the crop 1.1. If you are going to use the camera more as a cam replacing a DSLR, then the 40 makes sense - faster, higher ISO etc.

    I would then not be so much concerned about crop, especially with longer focal length a decent crop of 1.3 is rather helping than disturbing.

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    Re: I took the plunge, I purchased a H3D-39

    My .02 on the crop factor, offered FWIW...

    1) It is a double-edged sword. On the one hand, you have true "full frame" capture, which gives you the widest capture possible with any given lens. However, with the crop, you are using the sweetest spot of the lens, so have better corner-to-corner sharpness, and actually get a little longer net focal out of your lenses which can be as beneficial as getting wider...

    1a) While we're discussing crop, IMO even a 30MP image is still a pretty great file to work with!

    2) Speed. The new 40's are faster than the 39's, but the new 60's are about half-way between.

    3) Not really relevant to the discussion, but: You can crop a 60 to the 40 and maintain all of the IQ and perspective advantages of the 40, while maintaining the size advantage to the 60. Also, you only give up a little speed to the 40, especially with Phase in the binned mode.

    FWIW, #3 is one of the three main reasons why I chose the P65+...
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    Re: I took the plunge, I purchased a H3D-39

    Marc:

    i thought you were holding on to your Hd3 to trade in for the H4D-60, using hasselblad's generous trade in for that model. i am seeing no trade ins accepted toward the H4D-40
    ??

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    Re: I took the plunge, I purchased a H3D-39

    Quote Originally Posted by jlm View Post
    Marc:

    i thought you were holding on to your Hd3 to trade in for the H4D-60, using hasselblad's generous trade in for that model. i am seeing no trade ins accepted toward the H4D-40
    ??
    I sold my H3D-II/39 to my shooting partner in Florida. It's his first MFD camera. I will eventually either get a CF Multi-shot for my H2F ... IF AND WHEN commercial studio work picks back up again. Or a H4D/50 Multishot if that comes available in future.

    But for right now, the H4D/40 will serve my immediate needs and paying applications the best. And like I said, the difference was only $5K not $20K. BIG difference right now

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    Re: I took the plunge, I purchased a H3D-39

    Quote Originally Posted by Jack Flesher View Post
    My .02 on the crop factor, offered FWIW...

    1) It is a double-edged sword. On the one hand, you have true "full frame" capture, which gives you the widest capture possible with any given lens. However, with the crop, you are using the sweetest spot of the lens, so have better corner-to-corner sharpness, and actually get a little longer net focal out of your lenses which can be as beneficial as getting wider...

    1a) While we're discussing crop, IMO even a 30MP image is still a pretty great file to work with!

    2) Speed. The new 40's are faster than the 39's, but the new 60's are about half-way between.

    3) Not really relevant to the discussion, but: You can crop a 60 to the 40 and maintain all of the IQ and perspective advantages of the 40, while maintaining the size advantage to the 60. Also, you only give up a little speed to the 40, especially with Phase in the binned mode.

    FWIW, #3 is one of the three main reasons why I chose the P65+...
    I doubt anyone could dispute any of the above Jack. Same logic process I went through when initially ordering the H4D/60 over 5 months ago ... however, there still is no Hassey 60 camera

    In that 5 months business got worse not better ... so sinking 20K into the next step seemed a bit crazy (besides, I spent all my war chest funds on M stuff, speaking of crazy ) Now I can do the work I am getting paid for ... and wait to see what happens. What quality level the H4D/60 really is, and how it actually stacks up against the 50 Multishot, etc.

    I've seen some ISO 1600 stuff from the H4D/40 and it's a leap forward from the H3D-II/31 which wasn't bad itself. For my type of shooting that will help ... and it's still 40 meg

    The other thought I had was to take some of the proceeds from the H3D-II/39 sale and get a cheap H3D/39 ... which has the same trade value toward a 60 as my pristine H3D-II/39 with only 3000 shots on it! I'd be ahead by about $6K doing it that way.

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    Re: I took the plunge, I purchased a H3D-39

    marc:

    do you have the 40 in your hot little hands yet?

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    Re: I took the plunge, I purchased a H3D-39

    Quote Originally Posted by jlm View Post
    marc:

    do you have the 40 in your hot little hands yet?
    End of this week ... early next week. Will post impressions when in hand.

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    Re: I took the plunge, I purchased a H3D-39

    Quote Originally Posted by fotografz View Post
    so sinking 20K into the next step seemed a bit crazy
    Indeed --- cost is a non-trivial part of the equation! If I had taken any longer to "think about it" carefully, I'm pretty sure I'd still be shooting my P45+
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    Re: I took the plunge, I purchased a H3D-39

    Justifying a 60MP cam today is pretty difficult business wise. If you can justify it for your passion or hobby etc, then it is of course ok.

    One of the reasons I bought the H3D39 was its cheap price (CPO - Hasselblad - actually it had some 20 shots not more, so it was NEW) and the great trade in price for an H4D50, H4D60 and H4D40. So I can decide still a few months if I want to upgrade.

    Interestingly enough I am so happy with the files and the resolution I already get from the H3D39, that it is pretty unlikely that I will sink some more money into this adventure. I do not need more than 40MP on FF. I would not mind a camera which is a bit faster, but for this merit alone I will not spend a few thousand € or $

    So finally the H3D39 was a perfect choice for me!

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    Re: I took the plunge, I purchased a H3D-39

    Quote Originally Posted by ptomsu View Post
    Justifying a 60MP cam today is pretty difficult business wise. If you can justify it for your passion or hobby etc, then it is of course ok.

    One of the reasons I bought the H3D39 was its cheap price (CPO - Hasselblad - actually it had some 20 shots not more, so it was NEW) and the great trade in price for an H4D50, H4D60 and H4D40. So I can decide still a few months if I want to upgrade.

    Interestingly enough I am so happy with the files and the resolution I already get from the H3D39, that it is pretty unlikely that I will sink some more money into this adventure. I do not need more than 40MP on FF. I would not mind a camera which is a bit faster, but for this merit alone I will not spend a few thousand € or $

    So finally the H3D39 was a perfect choice for me!
    I think justifications vary widely. If I were primarily a landscape shooter with some portrait stuff thrown in, I'd concentrate all resources into a MFD 60 meg for the unquestioned advantages it provides. If I were not a Leica M shooter with an obsession for their fastest lenses, I could buy any complete MFD system on the planet

    I'm not solely a Hasselblad "fanboy" at this stage of the game either. The fan boy part is mostly focused on the camera itself which I prefer. So, a Phase One back in H mount is of no small interest for use on a H2. The primary interest in this would be additional use on my Rollei View camera which is already set up for a H mount back of any kind. A Phase One P45+ is a real consideration as it is an easier option for location work with this camera due to the integrated self power. Same for a Leaf Aptus 75s back, which I've used and like any way.

    However, without paying commissions to justify the Rollie and any back for it ... it's a moot point. I'm much more practical about MFD considerations than I am about the seemingly unjustifiable expenditures in the M system where logic is suspended and replaced with personal passion for the rangefinder way of making photographs

    10 years ago I would do both without even thinking about it. But that was then, and this now.

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    Re: I took the plunge, I purchased a H3D-39

    to clarify about Hasselblad trade-ins, based on the Hasselblad Trade-in Program dated September 25, 2009:


    in each case, trading in your 16, 22, 31 or 39 back/body (no lens), H or V:
    and getting the following camerabody/back with no lens:

    H4d-40: NO TRADE IN ALLOWED, retail is 20k, lens included

    H4D-50: 19,500 net (retail is 29k, no lens) TIV is 9.5k
    H4D-50MS: 21,000 net (retail is 36k, no lens) TIV is 15k

    here they differentiate based on the mpix of your trade in:
    H4D-60: 24,000 net (retail is 40k, no lens) TIV is 16k, trading in 16-22/31mpx
    H4D-60: 19,500 net (retail is 40k, no lens) TIV is 20.5k, trading in 39mpx
    H4D-60: 18,000 net (retail is 40k, no lens) TIV is 22kk, trading in 50mpx

    this shows quite a range of TIV for the H3D-39: 9.5K-22k

    Hasselblad is also offering a promotion for the H3DII-31 (not the 39) for 12k with lens; you could actually make 4k by buying that and trading it in for the H4D-60 wacky

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    Re: I took the plunge, I purchased a H3D-39

    I bought the H3DII-31, w/ 80mm and watched the price drop $3000 to its current promotion, in just three weeks! It toasted my muffin because I sold all my 1Ds mark II gear and that camera didn't drop that much in value in three years! The main reason I switched was because of the obsolescence inherit in the 35mm format. Although, after a call to my dealer, he quickly called Hasselblad and they offered a full purchase price towards the H4D-40. Not bad, but I still can't decide whether the same sensor size, but smaller pixel pitch (6.0) and microlenses will be a noticeable difference. I have read good things about the better ISO performance and that does make a difference when shooting handheld landscapes in windy conditions. Other improvements such as true focus and longer exposures are tempting too. The dealer/customer relationship is important and their relationship to Hasselblad is even more important. I wonder if the H4D-40 will also drop in price soon?

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    Re: I took the plunge, I purchased a H3D-39

    Quote Originally Posted by johnnygoesdigital View Post
    I bought the H3DII-31,

    I wonder if the H4D-40 will also drop in price soon?
    Soon, while a relative term, in the MFDB realm holds a bit more significance for most of us.

    Price drop guaranteed....though your H3DII-31 has not seen bottom yet.

    Find a size you like and use it ... these are no longer investments but more like fungible items that should be used and exchanged as needed. When as Marc has pointed out a H3DII-39 with a couple K exposures is equal in value to a H3D 39 with 100K exposures in trade value, the idea that these acquisitions are investment grade has lost significance.

    The H4D-40 should outperform the H3DII-31 but whether it is worth the additional outlay is something you will have to decide.

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    Re: I took the plunge, I purchased a H3D-39

    just realized my calcs were off for the Hd3II-31 trade in for the 60. you also get an 80mm lens out of the deal, making the gain almost 6k

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