stephengilbert
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Don Libby doesn't use a Hasselblad. And how's that auction going? I assume that one of Leica's many fans would jump at the chance to buy an S2 for such an "attractive" price.
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Hmmm...they why so much fuss over the price?Let's face it, this forum has more than it's fair share of wealthy enthusiast photographers, many of whom are Leica users and aficionados. If Leica can't sell the S2 here, and it appears there are few takers, then what chance has Leica of selling it elsewhere?
Victor, I don't know, I'm neither wealthy nor an enthusiast. Perhaps even wealthy enthusiasts seek value?Hmmm...then why so much fuss over the price?
Guy and Jack said it as cleanly as you can during their review ... GET SOME profiles, get the glass out there. Don't be stubborn about it, just do it. I believe the S2 would sing then ... well, at least sing to those with the money to listen :ROTFL:Kind of a sad thread. I hope the guys at Leica read this forum and take these comments to heart. Brings to mind that famous line by Marlon Brando in On the Waterfront... "I coulda been a contender. I coulda been somebody. "
Almost, but no cigar.So its the same for the Hasselblad H4D-40...
Actually, I really think there are only 2-1/2... 1) Lenses, 2) accurate profiles for either LR or C1, preferably BOTHa and 1/2) Keep enough replacement bodies on hand you can do an immediate turn-around to send out a working body whilst the customer's is getting WARRANTY repair --- in this way, Leica could continue to take as long they wanted with the repairs. Heck, that might even motivate them to speed up turn-arounds or tighten up outbound QC. Or both...Lets face it, there are really only four issues here. SNIP
Actually, I really think there are only 2-1/2... 1) Lenses, 2) accurate profiles for either LR or C1, preferably BOTHa and 1/2) Keep enough replacement bodies on hand you can do an immediate turn-around to send out a working body whilst the customer's is getting WARRANTY repair --- in this way, Leica could continue to take as long they wanted with the repairs. Heck, that might even motivate them to speed up turn-arounds or tighten up outbound QC. Or both...
If those were all in place, the price would not be a barrier --- IMO the folks that want one would buy it.
My measly .02,
Lets face it, there are really only four issues here. None of these are potentially hard to fix but, and for the life of me I can't understand Leica's logic here, Leica don't seem in a hurry to address these issues.
1: Price and perceived value. Knock a third off the price and I'm sure they'd be getting way more positive comments here, even considering the following...
2: No dedicated profiles or software. This is what is killing enthusiasm over image quality. People are judging final output based on non-optimised software. Why release such a *PRO* camera without having this in place? It's insane, which brings me to point 3.
3: Lenses... Where are they? On paper? Enough said.
4: Support network. Even in the antipodes I can get a back up Phase of Blad system couriered to me via warranty over night if the one I'm using goes down. I'd expect that level of support when throwing down money on what could amounts to a years wages for some.
Don't get me wrong, I really *did* think the S2 would be *the* camera for me. I just think Leica have mis-judged the market.
I stay corrected and say "there is not much interest in buying one" however still a lot of interested in "chatting about it""...Originally Posted by t_streng
Back to the original post it does seem that at least in this forum the interest in the S2 is not really the highest...."
I don't know... I see 40 posts here....
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Best regatrds
Victor
I just returned home from 3 days of shooting in Savannah, GA. I have to say the S2 was a pleasure to use. It was no problem to carry around and shoot all day for three days. I am very happy with the ergonomics of the camera and the images it produces.
Mark
If it winds your clock, then it's a great camera, enjoy. :thumbs:I bought the S2 in early February of this year. Right now I only have the 70mm lens. I am waiting on other lenses to be released before deciding on my next lens.
Mark