Site Sponsors
Results 1 to 15 of 15

Thread: Sinar Hy6 - Sinarback eMotion 75 / Views with 45 Prismfinder

  1. #1
    thsinar
    Guest

    Sinar Hy6 - Sinarback eMotion 75 / Views with 45 Prismfinder

    hi All,

    and here some views of the Sinar Hy6 camera, with the eMotion 75 back and the 45 prism finder, taken under different angles.
    These images also show the revolving adapter, with the back taken at different rotation angles.

    Please note also the display, which has been shot purposely with the sun hitting the screen (brightness of the screen is set to 3 from a scale of 5).

    Best regards,
    Thierry

    FYI: all images shot with my Lumix
    Last edited by thsinar; 30th April 2008 at 00:01. Reason: Addendum

  2. #2
    Senior Member
    Join Date
    Apr 2008
    Location
    Sydney
    Posts
    251
    Post Thanks / Like

    Re: Sinar Hy6 - Sinarback eMotion 75 / Views with 45 Prismfinder

    Thanks for the pics Thierry,
    I have a question for you.
    I currently have the 90% viewer on order,did you have an opportunity to compare both?
    Regards,
    Willem.

  3. #3
    thsinar
    Guest

    Re: Sinar Hy6 - Sinarback eMotion 75 / Views with 45 Prismfinder

    hi Willem,

    I did handle the 90 finder prototype, a few months back, but I can't compare both side by side. However, what I have in remembrance is that the 90 finder is as bright as the 45 prism.

    Best regards,
    Thierry

    Quote Originally Posted by Rethmeier View Post
    Thanks for the pics Thierry,
    I have a question for you.
    I currently have the 90% viewer on order,did you have an opportunity to compare both?
    Regards,
    Willem.

  4. #4
    Senior Member
    Join Date
    Apr 2008
    Location
    Sydney
    Posts
    251
    Post Thanks / Like

    Re: Sinar Hy6 - Sinarback eMotion 75 / Views with 45 Prismfinder

    Thierry,
    So it should.
    It's a mirror box design(Correct?)
    The 45% prism should be redesigned to look like it belongs to the Hy6.
    It's clearly a 6008 prism to fit on the Hy6,Afi,Rollei.
    Maybe an over reaction, but to me,being Dutch,design is very important.
    N.B I like the shots in your office you told me about in Bangkok.
    Regards,
    Willem.

  5. #5
    thsinar
    Guest

    Re: Sinar Hy6 - Sinarback eMotion 75 / Views with 45 Prismfinder

    Yes, Willem, mirror design.

    I do agree, that the 45 finder could be re-designed, but it was this or nothing!
    Actually, that's the nice part as well, that 6008 parts do fit also the Hy6, and some with a little adaption.

    Best regards,
    Thierry

    Quote Originally Posted by Rethmeier View Post
    Thierry,
    So it should.
    It's a mirror box design(Correct?)
    The 45% prism should be redesigned to look like it belongs to the Hy6.
    It's clearly a 6008 prism to fit on the Hy6,Afi,Rollei.
    Maybe an over reaction, but to me,being Dutch,design is very important.
    N.B I like the shots in your office you told me about in Bangkok.
    Regards,
    Willem.

  6. #6
    Subscriber gogopix's Avatar
    Join Date
    Nov 2007
    Posts
    1,383
    Post Thanks / Like

    Re: Sinar Hy6 - Sinarback eMotion 75 / Views with 45 Prismfinder

    I think these images give a very good idea of the overall design of the Hy6,

    but handling is different story

    that I need to do!

  7. #7
    Senior Member
    Join Date
    Dec 2007
    Posts
    314
    Post Thanks / Like

    Re: Sinar Hy6 - Sinarback eMotion 75 / Views with 45 Prismfinder

    Quote Originally Posted by thsinar View Post
    Yes, Willem, mirror design.
    No,
    45 is a prism finder
    whereas 90 is mirror (porro) finder

  8. #8
    Senior Member PSon's Avatar
    Join Date
    Nov 2007
    Posts
    908
    Post Thanks / Like
    Images
    145

    Re: Sinar Hy6 - Sinarback eMotion 75 / Views with 45 Prismfinder

    The best combinations are a waist level finder, a square format medium format camera with the left side horse shoe for flash in compact situation without ever need another L-bracket and a rotating adapter for the rectangular digital back. The Sinar/Leaf Hy6 and Mamiya RZ67 systems give us exactly these combinations. I now also shoot with the Mamiya RZ67 and prefer it over the Mamiya 645 AFD system. I own the Mamiya AFD system due to one reason, the 2.8/300 Apo. Thanks for the illustration.

    Best Regards,
    -Son
    Last edited by PSon; 30th April 2008 at 05:46.
    ALPA (MAX, STC, TC) | CAMBO (Actus DB2, WRS-AE) | CONTAX | HASSELBLAD | LEICA | DB (CFV-16, CFV-39, IQ180, IQ360, IQ3100, P45+) | Lens (Canon, Fujinon, Leica, Nikon, Pentax, Rodenstock, Schneider, Zeiss)

  9. #9
    Senior Member
    Join Date
    Dec 2007
    Posts
    314
    Post Thanks / Like

    Re: Sinar Hy6 - Sinarback eMotion 75 / Views with 45 Prismfinder

    Quote Originally Posted by gogopix View Post
    I think these images give a very good idea of the overall design of the Hy6, but handling is different story
    that I need to do!
    Here's a physical comparison of the 80mm lenses.
    I like Hasselblad's placement (further forward) of their manual focusing rings.

    Attachment 3602
    Last edited by BJNY; 30th April 2008 at 06:04.

  10. #10
    Senior Member
    Join Date
    Dec 2007
    Posts
    314
    Post Thanks / Like

    Re: Sinar Hy6 - Sinarback eMotion 75 / Views with 45 Prismfinder

    Quote Originally Posted by Pham Minh Son View Post
    The best combinations are a waist level finder, a square format medium format camera with the left side horse shoe for flash in compact situation......
    For your use, no doubt
    but I can assure that editorial, fashion and advertising photographers
    are likely to choose differently.
    Last edited by BJNY; 30th April 2008 at 06:28.

  11. #11
    Senior Member PSon's Avatar
    Join Date
    Nov 2007
    Posts
    908
    Post Thanks / Like
    Images
    145

    Re: Sinar Hy6 - Sinarback eMotion 75 / Views with 45 Prismfinder

    To further comment:

    Mamiya RZ67 system solved the issue of rotating back all the way back in the film day. Today we see for the first time a square format camera in 6x6 format size finally built a rotating back for their rectangular sensor. In the film the day a square 6x6 format camera have a square film size 6x6 thus there was no need for a rotating back. However, Mamiya RZ and RB67 systems are also square format cameras but due to the size of the film (120/220) they were forced to build the rotating film magazine. It is this very reason, I do not understand why Phase One digital back will mount their back on the Rollei 6008 system but only in the landscape mode. It is the theme that one must see and history is the evidence. I hope to see progress in the Phase One back as well for those that have been loyal client.

    Best Regards,
    -Son
    ALPA (MAX, STC, TC) | CAMBO (Actus DB2, WRS-AE) | CONTAX | HASSELBLAD | LEICA | DB (CFV-16, CFV-39, IQ180, IQ360, IQ3100, P45+) | Lens (Canon, Fujinon, Leica, Nikon, Pentax, Rodenstock, Schneider, Zeiss)

  12. #12
    thsinar
    Guest

    Re: Sinar Hy6 - Sinarback eMotion 75 / Views with 45 Prismfinder

    yes, of course!

    Sorry for my mind thinking about the 90 when I wrote about the 45.

    Billy: thanks for the correction.

    Thierry

    Quote Originally Posted by BJNY View Post
    No,
    45 is a prism finder
    whereas 90 is mirror (porro) finder

  13. #13
    Senior Member PSon's Avatar
    Join Date
    Nov 2007
    Posts
    908
    Post Thanks / Like
    Images
    145

    Re: Sinar Hy6 - Sinarback eMotion 75 / Views with 45 Prismfinder

    Quote Originally Posted by BJNY View Post
    For your use, no doubt
    but I can assure that editorial, fashion and advertising photographers
    are likely choose differently.
    I look for flexibility, dynamic and not limitation in my system. The features mentioned above are just the unique of the systems.

    Best Regards,
    -Son
    ALPA (MAX, STC, TC) | CAMBO (Actus DB2, WRS-AE) | CONTAX | HASSELBLAD | LEICA | DB (CFV-16, CFV-39, IQ180, IQ360, IQ3100, P45+) | Lens (Canon, Fujinon, Leica, Nikon, Pentax, Rodenstock, Schneider, Zeiss)

  14. #14
    Senior Member Graham Mitchell's Avatar
    Join Date
    Nov 2007
    Location
    London/Kiev
    Posts
    1,079
    Post Thanks / Like

    Re: Sinar Hy6 - Sinarback eMotion 75 / Views with 45 Prismfinder

    Quote Originally Posted by BJNY View Post
    For your use, no doubt
    but I can assure that editorial, fashion and advertising photographers
    are likely choose differently.
    Well I am only one such photographer but I agree with Son's wishlist and I think it would be popular with many.

  15. #15
    Senior Member
    Join Date
    Dec 2007
    Posts
    492
    Post Thanks / Like

    Re: Sinar Hy6 - Sinarback eMotion 75 / Views with 45 Prismfinder

    Quote Originally Posted by BJNY View Post
    Here's a physical comparison of the 80mm lenses.
    I like Hasselblad's placement (further forward) of their manual focusing rings.
    Fashion and editorial photography requires a fair amount of hand-held use. When hand-holding the camera, the farther away the manual focusing ring from the center of gravity means having to move your left hand away from its most effective position in terms of stability (closest to center of gravity). In fact, if your left hand does not remain under the body when focusing, this will introduce a torque on your hight hand, which will accelerate fatigue.

    I find the lenses for the Hy6 to be perfectly balanced. Their focusing rings are close to the body, allowing me to stabilize the camera much easier when manually focusing, and allow me to shoot comfortably for longer periods. The situation is true regardless of choosing a waist level finder or eye level finder for the Hy6.

Tags for this Thread

Posting Permissions

  • You may not post new threads
  • You may not post replies
  • You may not post attachments
  • You may not edit your posts
  •