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    Smile *** H4D-40 or H4D-50 ***

    Has been a while, he he, but here we are again at a time of needing to buy a MF camera system to serve both my on location and some studio Portrait work, as well as a camera to travel Globally to get my Gallery material, for my PhotoPainting material ready.

    Soo..

    I see that I missed a great Launch special on the new Hassy H4D, but I also see that there is a small special till the 31th with a 30% discount on one lens, which obviously would be the 35-90 as I considered a perfect one lens do it all for my purpose.

    Now the real question comes in as if I should go for the 40 or the 50

    So as usual when it comes to MF, I really see no better place then GetDPI, as it is here that I was first introduced to MF, and become an other gear Slot of this family, and since RED has decided to wait till some time next year to make the Epic 645, and the two Epic-X I'm receiving are with a S35 Sensor, I simply need a MF camera now.

    Okay guys don't be shy, I know you are not any ways, I came to love how much of gear slots you guys are here, and I'm not making any names, GUY..

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    Re: *** H4D-40 or H4D-50 ***

    if your main lens is the 35-90 an you're doing studio and location work, i don't see any advantage with the h4d50 over the 40.

    if my main lens were the hc100mm, then i'd want the largest sensor format (h4d60) so as not to induce a crop factor.

    if hi iso is important, then the h4d40...but if i remember correctly you use flash, so it's probably not.

    imo the h4d40 and the p40+ are the best bang for your buck (proven, tested, used, rentable and available) products that mf users have ever been offered.

    my decision would be based on the camera and lenses and software more than the back...the backs are all tremendous, but the cameras, lenses and software are very different systems – they feel, look, handle and work differently and that has a direct impact on how you take photos.

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    Re: *** H4D-40 or H4D-50 ***

    I agree. Go HD40 for great file and best bang for buck, or go HD60 if you want the biggest/best file possible.
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    Quote Originally Posted by kipling View Post
    if your main lens is the 35-90 an you're doing studio and location work, i don't see any advantage with the h4d50 over the 40.

    if my main lens were the hc100mm, then i'd want the largest sensor format (h4d60) so as not to induce a crop factor.

    if hi iso is important, then the h4d40...but if i remember correctly you use flash, so it's probably not.

    imo the h4d40 and the p40+ are the best bang for your buck (proven, tested, used, rentable and available) products that mf users have ever been offered.

    my decision would be based on the camera and lenses and software more than the back...the backs are all tremendous, but the cameras, lenses and software are very different systems – they feel, look, handle and work differently and that has a direct impact on how you take photos.
    He he, yes good memory, I do use Flash even on location, but now most of the times I will have to travel real light so not sure as of yet what Flash combinations will I be able to carry with me.

    For some extreme CityScapes and Extreme LandScapes I will use a GigaPan Epic Pro system to do GigaPixel Steached Panoramas, for which I will use the 1D IV, as I don't know yet if I can use the H4D, but there will be just too many times were I ill not be able to and need the largest file possible, especially for very High quality Large prints of Portraits.



    Quote Originally Posted by Jack Flesher View Post
    I agree. Go HD40 for great file and best bang for buck, or go HD60 if you want the biggest/best file possible.

    Yes I do need the largest file, but also as others pointed out there is just way too big of a jump to the H4D-60 in $$$ were it simply does not make it a good buy when compared to the H4D-40 and or H4D-50.

    I read Marc been extremely happy with available lighting and his H4D-40 even at Weddings, and that should say something about the work achieved by Hasselblad in making the H4D-40 so manageable and great to use for such Hand held situations, wondering if the H4D-50 is on the same prospect, besides the only difference I see which is the ISO.

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    Re: *** H4D-40 or H4D-50 ***

    Quote Originally Posted by KETCH ROSSI View Post
    but I also see that there is a small special till the 31th with a 30% discount on one lens, which obviously would be the 35-90 as I considered a perfect one lens do it all for my purpose.
    I bought the H4D-40 with 35-90mm for $19,995 (35-90mm for only $2,000)

    Here's the promotion

    There's also a promotion of the H4D-50 + any lens for free...

    Good Luck!

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    Quote Originally Posted by aldo View Post
    I bought the H4D-40 with 35-90mm for $19,995 (35-90mm for only $2,000)

    Here's the promotion

    There's also a promotion of the H4D-50 + any lens for free...

    Good Luck!

    Yes I have seen the offer, but are they still on?

    B&H no longer offers it.

    I have couple of offerings of Used but literally new H4D-40 and H4D-50, and I see that there is one for sale in this forum as well.

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    Re: *** H4D-40 or H4D-50 ***

    Quote Originally Posted by KETCH ROSSI View Post
    Yes I have seen the offer, but are they still on?

    B&H no longer offers it.

    I have couple of offerings of Used but literally new H4D-40 and H4D-50, and I see that there is one for sale in this forum as well.
    I never saw that promotion on B&H or adorama, I was going to buy it through a retailer, but I went directly to a hasselblad dealer (To demo the H4D), and believe me, it's the best you could do... their support is awesome, and I think this promotion is directly with hasselblad.

    I bought mine from www.houseofvictor.com (John Shipes, great guy)... but I guess there's a dealer in California... somebody here could point you to one...

    EDIT: I just saw "Promotions are valid from May 11th - June 30th, 2010" ... you should talk to a dealer anyway, they could offer you a deal or something...
    Last edited by aldo; 23rd July 2010 at 06:48.

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    Quote Originally Posted by aldo View Post
    I never saw that promotion on B&H or adorama, I was going to buy it through a retailer, but I went directly to a hasselblad dealer (To demo the H4D), and believe me, it's the best you could do... their support is awesome, and I think this promotion is directly with hasselblad.

    I bought mine from www.houseofvictor.com (John Shipes, great guy)... but I guess there's a dealer in California... somebody here could point you to one...
    Thanks for the tip, will contact them.

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    Re: *** H4D-40 or H4D-50 ***

    Well, I guess I'm now considering the H4D 60 as well, since if I buy a used H3D 39 I can trade it in for a discount, making even the H4D 60 an option..

    One more way to spend money

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    Re: *** H4D-40 or H4D-50 ***

    I recall the difference in price between the H4D-50 and H4D-60 in the UK is around £9,000. That a lot of cash for 10mp difference, plus you then have vignetting issues with the 60.
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    Re: *** H4D-40 or H4D-50 ***

    Quote Originally Posted by Quentin_Bargate View Post
    I recall the difference in price between the H4D-50 and H4D-60 in the UK is around £9,000. That a lot of cash for 10mp difference, plus you then have vignetting issues with the 60.
    Here in the US there is $11,000 increments form H4D40 to 50 and to 60, but there are still some possibilities in various Promotions, so looking to hear back form few dealers I contacted and see what happens, and once I know more specific about each system then I will be able to make a better decision.

    Vignetting is not really an issue for me as I usually don't go below 35mm, and I know that the vignetting only occurred with he 28mm, I have not heard any one saying vignetting with the 35-90mm at 35mm.

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    Re: *** H4D-40 or H4D-50 ***

    trading any 39mp camera will make the H4D-60 cost $19k, trading a 16mpx, cost will be $24k
    when trading any 16-39mpx toward the H4D-40, cost will be $15K;
    toward the 50k, cost will be $16.6k
    trading any 16-39 mpx toward the 50MS, cost will be $22.5k

    decipher that logic, then mix in the lens discount when buying outright...

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    Re: *** H4D-40 or H4D-50 ***

    Yes I have seen the Trade in Program listed at Hasselblad, but more so I'm interested in finding out what Promotions are still in play as far as Lenses, like the 35-90 deal and such.

    Even so the decision I have to make will be more based on specs and capabilities, I sure like to see what each system will end up costing me.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jlm View Post
    decipher that logic, then mix in the lens discount when buying outright...
    If you can do that with these various promotions you're a better man than me. Some of the promotions I've seen don't even seem internally consistent.

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    I was at Samys today in California. I saw the Hasselblad representative, and the promotion with the zoom lens is still available.

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    Thanks for confirming this,

    I called earlier and the guy that answered the phone had no clue.

    I'll try again tomorrow and try to see if any one form the Pro department can confirm the promotions.

    I sure would have loved the one with the 35-90, a one lens do it al for me really, besides the 28 and 100 with the TS system for extreme Architecture and Landscape steaching.

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    Re: *** H4D-40 or H4D-50 ***

    If I would be in this situation, I would go for the H4D40 plus the zoom lens - which is a HCD lens thus not offering the whole image area of the 60 back.

    I would not buy the H4D50 anymore, as in the case I needed the full image area I would go for the H4D60. But then consider that the HCD lens only gives you a slight crop of the full image, so other HC lenses would be needed.

    Still happy with my H3D39 though

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    Re: *** H4D-40 or H4D-50 ***

    It's a tough call for sure. At flat new entry pricing, the 60MP back does not make a lot of sense over the 40 IMHO. If you have a 39 back, it's a no-brainer to upgrade to the 60 assuming you want to upgrade to begin with. It sounds like if you buy a used 39MP back and trade up, you can get in for about $10K over the new 40MP back, not too shabby either if you want/need 60MP.

    OTOH, the reality is the 40MP backs are very sweet. In my particular case (this is with Phase), I didn't really *need* 60MP. I wanted the newer sensor, was considering selling my P45+ and buying the 40 outright when I got a trade-up offer from my P45+ to the 60. It was an offer "I couldn't refuse" and the rest was history. Even though I really didn't need 60MP, I can comfortably say I enjoy it (a lot!), and would not trade down to the 40 right now for $10,000 cash in my pocket...

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    Re: *** H4D-40 or H4D-50 ***

    For me the H4D-50 hit the sweet spot in terms of price and performance. I cross-upgraded trading in a Mamiya ZD camera that Hasselblad were willing, after some hesitation and thought, to treat as a MF back. Even then the first quote I received used the wrong discount pricing and had to be revised (to my detriment, unfortunately). It seemed to me that dealers are unsure about the right discounts and have to check with head office to work it all out. I was and remain very happy with the H4D-50 when it eventually arrived. Great product, somewhat opaque upgrade pricing.
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    Re: *** H4D-40 or H4D-50 ***

    I am happy with H4D-60 even i don't need it, i was even happy with my H3DII-39 but i was after upgrading sooner or later which i did already and no regret or never look back.
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    Re: *** H4D-40 or H4D-50 ***

    re the HCD zoom: my reading is only at the wide end the lens will be cropped, no? too, it does cover the whole image area of the H60 sensor but Hasselblad decided to crop it slightly because they feel corner/edge performance is not really good enough. However you can use the whole image circle (i.e. deactivate the cropping in the software) if you'd like to.
    Is this correct?

    as to the H50: indeed a difficult position between the H40 and H60.
    Unless you want the multishot version...

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    Re: *** H4D-40 or H4D-50 ***

    I have to test my 28 more on the 60mm, i will deactivate that cropping from 60mp on the software and see.
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    Re: *** H4D-40 or H4D-50 ***

    Calling all gear sluts. There is money to be spent ... gear sluts don't care who's money it is ... LET'S SPEND IT!

    Without a doubt, the best NEW kit Hassey deal is the H4D/40 with 35-90 (if still available). Even though I got a great deal on my H4D/40 when it was first offered, this promo deal is even better ... IF the 35-90 is the lens you want. Keep in mind that the 35-90 cannot be used on the HTS/1.5 adapter. In lieu of the 35-90, I took a "custom" deal on the HTS/1.5 which I have more use for stitching and studio table top.

    I'd check current delivery time for the H4D/60 trade deal before getting all sweaty about it. There were a lot of people who signed up for that trade-up promo last year, so it's likely that pipe-line has to be filled before new trades are honored (bet it's a 6 month+ wait). I signed up early for the trade promo to the 60, but ended up just selling my H3D-II/39 and buying the H4D-40 because I wanted the H4 AF features for this year's wedding business. I then also secured a certified used CF/39 Multi-Shot for studio detail work and back-up for the 40. Total cost for a 2 camera system with new HTS/1.5 Adapter ended up lower than the 60 alone even with the trade promo/lens deal.


    The H4D/50 is no slouch, it still has the newer sensor technology over the 39 backs, plus all the new performance benefits of the H4. So it isn't just 11 meg more over the H3D/H3D-II/39 kits. I'd eventually like to get a H4D/50 Multi-Shot in place of the 39 ... if business ever recovers enough to warrant it. A 1.1X crop factor is pretty minuscule when working with these rarified meg counts.

    The Hassey 60 is a Kodak sensor the same as the 40 and 50. The Phase One P65+ is different ... it is a Dalsa sensor ... which gave Jack a different look and feeling over his previous P45+ Kodak sensor back.

    So, were I you, I would also seriously consult with one of the Phase One dealers here to explore features, performance for your applications, pricing and promo options in comparison to the Hasselblad kit ... keeping in mind that ALL reps are pretty biased toward selling you something they represent ... but you already knew that

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    Re: *** H4D-40 or H4D-50 ***

    Quote Originally Posted by fotografz View Post
    The Hassey 60 is a Kodak sensor the same as the 40 and 50.
    are you sure?? I thought it's a Dalsa (no "sensor plus" chip but still a Dalsa...)

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    Quote Originally Posted by thomas View Post
    are you sure?? I thought it's a Dalsa (no "sensor plus" chip but still a Dalsa...)
    Oops, my boo-boo ... not enough coffee yet to think straight. You are right and I am wrong. It's the 40 and 50 that are Kodak sensors. Sorry.

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    Quote Originally Posted by fotografz View Post
    Oops, my boo-boo ... not enough coffee yet to think straight. You are right and I am wrong. It's the 40 and 50 that are Kodak sensors. Sorry.

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    Re: *** H4D-40 or H4D-50 ***

    Hello,

    I ordered a H4D60, an upgrade from my H3D31. But, as it was too long to deliver, I ended with the H4D50.

    I tested also the H4D60. The 60 is wonderful, really, but not available lol.

    The main difference between the 31 and 50 is the size of the sensor, and the viewfinder. For landscape, wow ! The 50 is wonderful, but you have to work with a tripod ! Nominal iso is 50 and long exposure is 30 seconds.

    So, here is my conclusion, as 31 and 40 have the same size of sensor : the H4D40 is certainly a more versatile camera : faster, smaller file size, smaller sensor, you can do photos hand held, less noise at higher iso.

    The D50 is lovely for landscape or still life, take your time and shoot. Quality is wonderful (better than the 31, especially for landscape where details counts).

    So if you just look through the viewfinder, you'll understand the differences : larger, brighter viewfinder for the D50.

    So, it's all about what you want to shoot.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Professional View Post
    I have to test my 28 more on the 60mm, i will deactivate that cropping from 60mp on the software and see.
    Tareq:
    I have not seen you comment on the LCD on your H4D-60. My understanding is that it was supposed to be a major upgrade over the LCD on the H3D, H4D-40 and H4D-50 cameras.

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    Quote Originally Posted by hcubell View Post
    Tareq:
    I have not seen you comment on the LCD on your H4D-60. My understanding is that it was supposed to be a major upgrade over the LCD on the H3D, H4D-40 and H4D-50 cameras.
    Honestly saying, yes, it is an improvement over my H3DII-39 definitely, but i can't tell comparing to H4D-40/50, i am happy with it now and better resolution, but still i don't give that LCD much care about my results, i may try to check the LCD of 40 and 50 later on the dealer store to see, i will go to him either tomorrow Sunday or Monday and see.

    WOW, the weather here is almost 48-50C outdoor, how can i shoot in that hot weather then, and i am not interested to go out at night for nightshots, and still hot at night too.
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    Re: *** H4D-40 or H4D-50 ***

    Quote Originally Posted by fotografz View Post
    Oops, my boo-boo ... not enough coffee yet to think straight. You are right and I am wrong. It's the 40 and 50 that are Kodak sensors. Sorry.

    -Marc
    Then I'd definitely go for the 60. (Sorry Marc, couldn't resist! )
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    Re: *** H4D-40 or H4D-50 ***

    I'm extremely happy with the 40+ Phase back. And the HD40 sounds like a sweet deal. ONLY reason I would jump to the P65+ or a H60 is to lose the crop in the viewfinder. ONLY reason otherwise these 40 sing a really nice dance song. Now i need to setup to shoot it here in a few minutes.

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    Re: *** H4D-40 or H4D-50 ***

    Quote Originally Posted by hcubell View Post
    Tareq:
    I have not seen you comment on the LCD on your H4D-60. My understanding is that it was supposed to be a major upgrade over the LCD on the H3D, H4D-40 and H4D-50 cameras.
    My understanding was that the H4D series all had upgraded LCD's over the H3D series.
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    Re: *** H4D-40 or H4D-50 ***

    out of the H4-D's, only the 60 has the double res LCD

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    Re: *** H4D-40 or H4D-50 ***

    Hey guys, thanks for the chats, great advises!

    Well, Steve sent me a message, still no word form the Hassy guys, and since I already had purchase..and sold, a Phase One system with them at Capture INtegration, I fill pretty comfortable, in exploring the P65+ as well as The Leaf Aptus II 10 + DF body & LS lenses.

    So this time I will surely be more careful and picky about my final choice and not rushed as I did the first time around, I will be spending 50k on a system so I better do it right!

    The reason I look to go with the biggest sensor is because of the Gallery Prints I will need off this photos, and the absolute largest amount of detail needed to work with when PhotoPainting some of the Shots.

    The H4D 40 is surely a sweet deal, but I have no idea if the promotion with the 35-90 is still what it was, nor do I know yet what my option is with the H4D 50 and H4D 60, since no one has gotten back to me form Hasselblad

    But I would definitely want the 35-90 but still get the 28m and 100 to use with the TS.

    On the other hand, I'm at this point looking forward to see what Steve has to offer, and I already know form before that both P65+ and Leaf Aptus II 10, have lots to offer with the new DF body and LS lenses, so will try to get them all in my hands for few days and shoot away.

    I n some situations I sure could use the best ISO performance, but in general I will be using Flash, and powerful ones at that, looking in to either Broncolor or Profoto Battery Power Packs, and for some really extreme situations I have the 1D IV with the Epic-Pro Gipan to allow for some mega steaching.


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    Re: *** H4D-40 or H4D-50 ***

    Quote Originally Posted by KETCH ROSSI View Post
    ... I will be spending 50k on a system so I better do it right! ...
    I'd look much more into usability and accessories… as the H4D60, P65+ and Aputs II 10 and the lenses are certainly all great.

    random thoughts:
    - AFAIK there is a vertical grip for the DF camera on the horizon. No vertical grip for Hasselbald.
    - the LCD of the P65+ totally sucks. The LCDs of the Aptus II 10 and the H60 are supposed to be better
    - Leaf has some very nice operations/features on the back; accessable on the back's LCD
    - Hasselblad offers a waist level finder
    - Hasselblad offers the HTS
    - the DF features focal plane and leaf shutters
    - if you plan to add a tech camera anytime Phase and Leaf are much easier to handle (no need for an external power source)
    - I'd consider the recompose AF feature of Hasselblad a very, very strong feature
    - the H60 is brand new… probably it has to develop first (i.e. firmware updates adressing certain issue are likely to follow … as it was the case with the P65+ in the beginng)
    - is the H60 already available in quantities? Maybe you have to wait quite a while to get one
    - software integration with Hasselblad is much better (automated, EXIF driven lens corrections); too, the lens correction WRT distortion is more sophisticated in Phocus (distortion correction in C1 is quite rudimentary whilst CA, purple fringing and color cast corrections work very, very good)
    - C1 is much better equipped, faster and fully customizable. Of course C1 also supports the Leaf Aptus II
    - the Leaf has a 3:2 image format... that might meet your needs or not...
    - there's a large range of glass that can be used on the Mamiya (via adaptor)

    just my 2 cents ...

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    He he I would say a lot more then just 2 cents Tom, those are lots of dollars worth much appreciated toughs

    All of the points made are exactly what I have been analyzing form each camera, were I put the P65+ & Aptus II 10 on the same category for the DF system and Lenses, just looking at the main features and capabilities offered buy their individual backs, were with the H4D I'm looking on comparing the various features of the System it self and not only the back.

    The TS system on the H4D is surely something I would love to explore and learn, as I use TS lenses and love the look and capacity to acquire images that are impossible to get otherwise, and the Canon 24L TS II Kicks A%[email protected], so I have been researching a way to have the TS on the DF system and have not found a valuable solution yet, unless I purchase an additional Tech system to put the back in to it, but I don't like to have to buy an other set of lenses, and some times I need to travel only with one back pack, so size and weight will matter here.

    MOst of the time I will travel to locations by way of driving and carry all my Profoto Battery Packs and Flash heads, but when traveling light I will only have my back pack and will look for extended time of exposure so a Back with the longest exposure times could serve me better here.

    I look to discuss each need with each specialized dealer to choose the proper System, and try them out to better understand not only the system it self but also their individual strength and weaknesses applied to my intend use.

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    Re: *** H4D-40 or H4D-50 ***

    Quote Originally Posted by KETCH ROSSI View Post
    I use TS lenses and love the look and capacity to acquire images that are impossible to get otherwise, and the Canon 24L TS II Kicks A%[email protected], so I have been researching a way to have the TS on the DF system and have not found a valuable solution yet, unless I purchase an additional Tech system to put the back in to it, but I don't like to have to buy an other set of lenses
    but with the HTS the 28mm translates to a ~45mm lens. This is not exactly what you get with your 24mm on the Canon.
    Maybe it's worth to consider one of these super small tech camera bodies like the Cambo WD compact: http://www.cambo.com/Html/products_p...t/Item866.html
    or even the WRS that is also quite small and of course handholdable: http://www.cambo.com/Html/products_p.../Item6819.html ...
    ... in conjunction with a Digitar 35XL in a Tilt/Swing lens panel*
    The Alpa TC is even smaller but doesn't provide T/S for such wide angles.
    So, yes, additional gear. But quite slim and light...

    * hmh, not sure if there is a TS panel for the 35XL. But there is one for the Rodenstock HR Digaron-S 35mm ...

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    Yes there is the only down side on the Hassy TS, can't understand why they had to make it with a 1.5 EX. but still workable, as I can still stitch various shots together.

    Yeah the issue with buying in to yet one more system with Tech cameras is that I will have yet and other entire set of lenses and want to avoid that.

    My bag, has only space for one more body and four more lenses.

    Also I never used a Tech camera before and will have to learn yet an other system, not sure I wish to do that either.

    But I have to think very carefully the system I choose, also based on the fact that while Portrait has surely a great portion of what I do, CityScapes traveling Italy up and down will be the main focus of this system shooting anything form narrow streets scene to wide Plazas and Cathedrals.

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    Re: *** H4D-40 or H4D-50 ***

    Quote Originally Posted by KETCH ROSSI View Post
    Yes there is the only down side on the Hassy TS, can't understand why they had to make it with a 1.5 EX. but still workable, as I can still stitch various shots together.
    Combining frames taken with the lens tilted is easier in theory than it is to do in actual practice...
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jack Flesher View Post
    Combining frames taken with the lens tilted is easier in theory than it is to do in actual practice...
    Yes True Jack, but my friend has done it several times, still have to really see what He is doing, I have only been doing stitching with traditionally taken photos, and with the GigaPan EpicPro.

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    Re: *** H4D-40 or H4D-50 ***

    Of course it all depends upon use. Here is a macro shot I took today with the H4D-50 and 120mm macro, shot tethered from Phocus 2.5 on Windows, with a full rezz insert (red square on original image)
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    Stunning!!

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    Re: *** H4D-40 or H4D-50 ***

    I've been playing around with the facility to micro-focus the lens if the camera is controled from Phocus. It's pretty effective (obviously only if the camera is tripod mounted...)! A bit like a alternartive version of live view, but in monochrome only.

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    Yeah, really great job!

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    Re: *** H4D-40 or H4D-50 ***

    Thanks, Ketch. There is no doubt about the superiority of MF digital over 35mm digital at the present stage in digital evolution. Tonal rendering, colour, dynamic range as well as resolution are all ahead. Incidentally this was one of several shots taken for stock, so any hint of branding has been removed. Otherwise apart from some tweaks to contrast in Photoshop, this is more or less as it came out of the camera / Phocus 2.5

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    Re: *** H4D-40 or H4D-50 ***

    Quote Originally Posted by Quentin_Bargate View Post
    Thanks, Ketch. There is no doubt about the superiority of MF digital over 35mm digital at the present stage in digital evolution. Tonal rendering, colour, dynamic range as well as resolution are all ahead. Incidentally this was one of several shots taken for stock, so any hint of branding has been removed. Otherwise apart from some tweaks to contrast in Photoshop, this is more or less as it came out of the camera / Phocus 2.5

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