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    I like the colour very much.

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    She is in Arca Zen Mode. LOL

    Looking great Terry
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    Terry... these are simply spectacular.

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    A few weeks into it and Terry is making that Arca sing for sure! I wish you all could have seen her face when she first "saw" the results from using just a few degrees of tilt -- seeing all that green from the C1 focus mask -- it was like watching a little kid at her birthday party!
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    Quote Originally Posted by TEBnewyork View Post
    One lens for the whole week so everything was the perfect shot for a 35mm
    Oh yes, and one lens is plenty - for now. Getting more just creates problems . . . GAPS! Let's say you pick up the 70mm or 72mm. Now you have a huge gap between your 35 and 70 - so do you fill that with the 40, 43, 47?? - the 47 is logical but the 43 seems stellar, same with the 40 but both of them might be too close to the 35 so do you trade out the 35 for a 28 then go with 28, 43, 70 - or don't get the 70 but jump right to the 120 then you have lots to choose from between 35 and 120 . . .

    This is the kind of stuff that keeps Guy awake at night!
    And in the morning the rest of us just check in to see what he has written at 5am in case he has some insight for us and that's been working fine so far!

    Looking forward to more images - "It's your turn!"

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    Re: A medium format and tech camera newbie gets started (P40+ and Rm3D)

    Quote Originally Posted by Jack Flesher View Post
    using just a few degrees of tilt
    I was wondering if there was some tilt in the second image she posted (the tree lying in the lake in the foreground). Made me think about the tilt adapter for my Alpa.

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    Quote Originally Posted by cmb_ View Post
    I was wondering if there was some tilt in the second image she posted (the tree lying in the lake in the foreground). Made me think about the tilt adapter for my Alpa.
    Charlie,
    I think most if not all of these had a touch of tilt added.
    I have a 90mm lens on order it just hasn't arrived....which in the end worked out just fine because I made 35mm work for me. The three lens kit looks like 35, 55 or 60 and 90. In discussing with Jack these choices also fall neatly into a larger format rule of thumb which uses your medium (sensor) size to determine a grouping a focal lengths. Short side measurement, 2x the long side measurement and then the diagonal....my sensor is 33x44 so 35 and 90 are pretty spot on (funny how that works).

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    Thanks everyone!

    I really do love this setup. My bag was small and light. Took me no time to set up and then get put away. I can work off my small traveler tripod but the bigger Gitzo with the cube was much easier. Just as an FYI I am using a Think Tank Streetwalker Pro and even with the two additional lenses it should all fit with the disto and other accessories.

    Now that I've had to wean myself from LR and move to C1, once you concentrate on actually learning it, there are a lot of good bits.

    Again, many thanks to Jack and Guy in the moving from thinking to buying stage, the actual purchase, the instruction and the fun.

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    Re: A medium format and tech camera newbie gets started (P40+ and Rm3D)

    terry: how are you judging framing?

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    Quote Originally Posted by jlm View Post
    terry: how are you judging framing?
    John with the 35 it wasn't too hard to line up right where I wanted to be and get the framing close. I do have a viewfinder but generally wasn't using it. The viewfinder also has marking for movements. Generally I would just do a trial shot and tweak it a bit. But of course Jack gave me a lesson about where the horizon would be in the frame when the camera is zeroed out (no rise or fall).

    When I get the 90mm lens it will be a different story and I will probably have to rely on the viewfinder more but I may actually be getting the rotaslide which then will be ground glass shooting.

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    Re: A medium format and tech camera newbie gets started (P40+ and Rm3D)

    Quote Originally Posted by cmb_ View Post
    Way to go Terry - nicely done!

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    Terry

    What a plunge! I admire your pluck!

    A couple questions re focus and depth of focus.

    1) the image of the ice plant and anchor is out of focus in the foregorund. I assume this was intended and what you wnated to get was the anchor in critical focus, with no depth of focus.

    2)Mono Lake tufas (two photos) also, foreground tufas are out of focus. Was this intended?

    3) Ice plant and shoreline same thing.

    The images of the beach and Golden Gate look spot on! Color and detail look fantastic!

    A great set of photos showing us what's possible.

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    Quote Originally Posted by claudefiddler View Post
    Terry

    What a plunge! I admire your pluck!

    A couple questions re focus and depth of focus.

    1) the image of the ice plant and anchor is out of focus in the foregorund. I assume this was intended and what you wnated to get was the anchor in critical focus, with no depth of focus.

    2)Mono Lake tufas (two photos) also, foreground tufas are out of focus. Was this intended?

    3) Ice plant and shoreline same thing.

    The images of the beach and Golden Gate look spot on! Color and detail look fantastic!

    A great set of photos showing us what's possible.

    Thank you,

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    Hi,
    The stuff along the coast with the ice plant was clear user error on day two of using the camera and not utilizing any tilts.

    I think the focus on the Sierra trip was all about me getting familiar with using tilt and I never had done that before. On those two shots I was probably a bit conservative on the tilt. This came after doing some tilts at mosquito lake (the shot with the log) where I had probably gone a bit too far with tilt and lost the focus on far tree tops - although the focus on the log shot is pretty much as good as I think I can do.

    So, there is still a learning curve going on...and then the inevitable should I buy a rotaslide and use ground glass for focus with the tilts.

    Thanks for looking!

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    Holy flipping cow-- great start!!

    And here's a vote for GG focusing with the tilts -- will definitely help.

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    Terry,

    absolutely gorgeous shots! Congratulations.

    Sorry for my ignorance - which tech camera are you using - Alpa, which model? These results and what you said about weight and how easy to carry makes me interested again...

    Thanks

    Peter

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    Thanks JCT - I had a blast. Really loved it.

    Peter, I'm using the Arca Swiss Rm3d with a Phase P40+ back. I find it simple and liberating because I get to think more slowly and differently. I had a very light pack which is great when you think about how good the files are. Fabulous learning experience. Having only one lens for the week was probably the best that could have happened. My second lens arrived at the dealer Monday. LOL. The kit will get bigger if I decide to get the rotaslide and do some ground glass focusing.

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    Congratulations, Terry! It's great to see that you have taken the plunge and are really enjoying it.

    You are clearly off to a wonderful start. Thank you for sharing!

    -Brad

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    Terry,

    thanks for that update. This really seems to be a stunning combination!

    Interesting for me is the fact that it gets pretty light end of the day. Usually when I am doing landscapes I am carrying my H3D39, 28, 100 and HTS1.5 (for tilt and shift) - which makes all up a pretty heavy package. I can see that using a tech camera with just 1 or 2 lenses for landscape is the better solution. And the results are stunning.

    In fact I rarely do need the H3D39 for different things than landscape, because it is too bulky and relatively slow. Same is true for sure for any Phase camera. And lenses are quite heavy. So for normal shooting a small DSLR (Sony A55) or even a NEX or M43 with kit lens would do.

    Interesting concept.

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    Peter, yes my bag with the DF body and the 28, 80 and 75-150 is really quite heavy.

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    Wow! Those are very nice images Terry. It looks like you learned quickly on the Arca. Can you share some of the technical settings you used on these shots? I'm starting to get my Mamiya RZ to work well with an older 16 megapixel back I recently purchased but it's been a struggle. It seems that the back is not calibrated to the body so Ive had to learn to focus by judging distance and not by looking at my subject too much. I'm also re thinking MF vs LF because of the lens limitations of MF and am looking at finding an adapter for my 4x5 cameras.

    Thanks

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    Re: A medium format and tech camera newbie gets started (P40+ and Rm3D)

    Quote Originally Posted by emendoz1 View Post
    I'm starting to get my Mamiya RZ to work well with an older 16 megapixel back I recently purchased but it's been a struggle. It seems that the back is not calibrated to the body so Ive had to learn to focus by judging distance and not by looking at my subject too much.
    have you tried to shim the screen? A split image screen might also help A LOT.

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