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    New Alpa Products being announced

    ALPA Photokina News



    Things are Simple at the Top

    Uncompromising photographic instruments. A modular camera platform. A coherent concept. All models fully integrated. Each optimised for a specific task.


    ALPA of Switzerland will present a whole range of new and amazing products at Photokina 2010 (hall 2.1, stand B 21). Each completely integrated in the existing modular system and compatible with the first camera from 1998.

    All products will become available in Q4/2010 or Q1/2011.



    NEW CAMERAS & ACCESSORIES

    ALPA 12 STC
    The all new ALPA 12 STC (Stitching/Shift Travel Compact) is the youngest member of the ALPA 12 family. It will set the benchmark for compact technical cameras - especially in the class of truly handheldable technical cameras not only for tripod use. The ALPA 12 STC is of course prepared for digital use (digital backs of up to 60 MP at the moment) and with some rollfilm backs up to 6x9.

    The ALPA 12 STC allows the travelling photographer free hand operation as well as fast, convenient and reliable stitching and shifting (geared and free-wheeling) on tripod. As all other ALPA 12 models the STC is completely integrated in the modular and extensive ALPA 12 platform. All movements got realised with roller-bearings - not the cheapest but defintively the most precise, stable and long lasting way.



    ALPA Sync Release
    All digital backs need a synchronisation between the shutter and the back. In addition some Phase One and Hasselblad devices need a "wake-up" signal before the exposure. ALPA offers with the ALPA Sync Release a large and unique selection of synchronisation solutions - for the first time really optimal for tripod and freehand use.



    ALPA HPF High Precision Focusing Rings
    Certain photographic applications need an extremely differentiated scale focusing - e.g. when using a laser distance meter. ALPA offers with the ALPA HPF rings a unique and retrofittable solution for these requirements which is - in contrast to other offerings - truly usable in freehand operation.



    ALPA iPhone® holder
    The new ALPA iPhone® holder allows the technophile photographers using their iPhone® 3/4 and iPod touch® (later also others) a secure and firm mounting of their device on top of an ALPA. Four positions are available:

    horizontal, symmetric
    horizontal, minimum prallax
    vertical, symmetric
    vertical, minimum parallax
    Possible applications are...

    electronic viewfinder (ALPA recommends apps like "Viewefinde Pro" or "ProCamera")
    as GPS logger
    as control unit for electronical shutters and the like
    as digitale notepad
    other apps are under development


    ALPA Lens Corrector (reloaded)
    ALPA will release new distortion correction profiles of over 90 third party lenses/focal lengths for the all free ALPA Lens Corrector. This Photoshop® plug-in allows the distortion correction at it's best including movements. Why for free? Just because we love what we are doing! With first priority there will be an update containing the new ALPA lenses from Rodenstock and Schneider-Kreuznach and the most common digital backs plus various lenses of 3rd party manufacturers for dSLRs and Micro 4/3 cameras.


    ALPA Lens Corrector
    There is always room for improvement - high-end distortion correction for ALPA photographers

    NEW LENSES

    Rodenstock HR Digaron-W 4.0/32 mm
    Focal length: 32 mm
    Aperture: f 4.0
    Shutter: Copal 0, others on request
    Image circle: 90 mm
    Distortion: < 2.6%, correction profile for ALPA Lens Corrector (free)
    Filters: E86 mm
    Weight: 990 g


    Schneider Super-Digitar 5.6/28 mm XL
    Focal length: 28 mm
    Aperture: f 5.6
    Shutter: Copal 0, others on request
    Image circle: 90 mm
    Distortion: < 0.5%, correction profile for ALPA Lens Corrector (free)
    Filters: with adapter E95 mm or E112 mm
    Weight: -


    Schneider Apo-Digitar 5.6/60 mm XL - Schneider ALPA Apo-Helvetar 5.6/60 mm
    Focal length: 60 mm
    Aperture: f 5.6
    Shutter: Copal 0, others on request
    Image circle: 120 mm
    Distortion: < 0.4%, correction profile for ALPA Lens Corrector (free)
    Filters: E62 mm, E67 mm (Apo-Helvetar)
    Weight: -




    THIRD PARTY PRODUCTS

    Acadalus CPS h1 - Self-leveling camera head
    ALPA shows the unique Acadalus CPS h1 by Koch Photography, Schaffhausen/Switzerland.

    Acadalus CPS h1

    Check it all out here http://www.alpa.ch/en/news/2010/alpa...tml?year=&num=
    Photography is all about experimentation and without it you will never learn art.

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    Re: New Alpa Products being announced

    Pictures would be useful would love to see what they are talking about with the change to focussing and the change to the size of the camera.

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    Agree maybe Paul has something he can show us now that it is announced
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    Re: New Alpa Products being announced

    I'm intrigued by the iPhone holder. If it's supporting the use of viewfinder apps then it'll be an interesting design exercise. Now I LOVE my Alpa but I shudder to think of the cost of this given that it doesn't sound like a one piece item ...

    I'm also interested to hear more about the focus scale updates too and what's involved in retro-fitting.

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    Re: New Alpa Products being announced

    Quote Originally Posted by GrahamWelland View Post
    If it's supporting the use of viewfinder apps then it'll be an interesting design exercise.
    Do you have a wide angle adapter for your iPhone?

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    Re: New Alpa Products being announced

    This 12STC is going to be a game changer in terms of compact tech camera with X/Y movements. I want one with rosewood handle and in built wake up cable for blad !

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    Re: New Alpa Products being announced

    interesting...the I-phone holder implies your back would be able to send an image to the phone for focus/compositon check or is the Iphone just used as a sort of external viewfinder?

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    Yes, I'm afraid I'm going to want the 12STC too as well as the new 28 or 32. It will be interesting to compare the 12STC and Max.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jlm View Post
    interesting...the I-phone holder implies your back would be able to send an image to the phone for focus/compositon check or is the Iphone just used as a sort of external viewfinder?
    Reading the information on the Alpa site regarding recommended iphone apps (e.g. Viewfinder Pro) it appears that the iphone is acting as a viewfinder only with no integration with the digital back. The Viewfinder Pro app seems to have a wide choice of pro MF cameras, backs and lenses to emulate what your digital back will photograph. ...And yes, wide angle adapters are required for 45mm and 35mm 645 lenses....more to buy....

    I just want to shoot tethered to an iPad....please!!! Somebody??? Anybody???
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    I'm with you Jeff. I think the first solution for that will be the winner. Hope someone is listening
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    Quote Originally Posted by TEBnewyork View Post
    Pictures would be useful would love to see what they are talking about with the change to focussing and the change to the size of the camera.
    ALPA HPF , high performance focusing (ring) . Yes I would like to see an image of that device too .
    I assume , the HPF ring will be a different one for each focal length .
    Additional to that , I do not see a clear statement from ALPA , if you will still need a laser distometer to obtain the correct distance to your subject .
    I assume yes . An explanation of how the HPF ring works would be fine .
    Regards . Jürgen .
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    Jurgen,

    I think the new focus ring would replace the current helicoil, and you'd need one for each lens. I'd like one for my 47mm, but given ALPA's prices, might pass on getting one for my 35. I thought I read somewhere that the new focus ring could be installed without returning the lens to ALPA.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jotloob View Post
    ALPA HPF , high performance focusing (ring) . Yes I would like to see an image of that device too .
    I assume , the HPF ring will be a different one for each focal length .
    Additional to that , I do not see a clear statement from ALPA , if you will still need a laser distometer to obtain the correct distance to your subject .
    I assume yes . An explanation of how the HPF ring works would be fine .
    as Alpa says they are retrofittable it's most likely just a much finer scaling of the distance indication. Which will work very good, I guess.

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    Re: New Alpa Products being announced

    Yes, Paul (from Optechs Digital) describes them as a user replaceable retrofit. http://forum.getdpi.com/forum/showpo...99&postcount=1

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    Quote Originally Posted by stephengilbert View Post
    I thought I read somewhere that the new focus ring could be installed without returning the lens to ALPA.
    interesting!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by stephengilbert View Post
    Yes, Paul (from Optechs Digital) describes them as a user replaceable retrofit. http://forum.getdpi.com/forum/showpo...99&postcount=1
    as the rings are a user replaceable retrofit it must be an easy and safe way to mount the rings.

    Looking at the lens mounts there is no way to replace the old focus ring without disassembling the lens.
    So most likely the new focus rings simply attach on top of the old rings...!?


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    Quote Originally Posted by thomas View Post
    as the rings are a user replaceable retrofit it must be an easy and safe way to mount the rings.

    Looking at the lens mounts there is no way to replace the old focus ring without disassembling the lens.
    So most likely the new focus rings simply attach on top of the old rings...!?

    Thomas

    In my restless nights I thought of an additional ring with an additional fine gear . You might disengage a detent , roughly adjust to say 5m , engage the detent and then fine adjust to a new fine scale ?
    Ok.Ok. These are all speculations of course .

    Paul from OPTECHS could give some relief soon .
    Regards . Jürgen .
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    Quote Originally Posted by jotloob View Post
    Paul from OPTECHS could give some relief soon .
    he probably can't right now due to NDA...?
    Alpa is definitely the first booth to visit for me next week at Photokina...
    Seems my Cambo turns more and more into a kind of Frankencamera... Alpa focus rings, Sinar lens shade, modified focussing hood and probably an Arca or Alpa groundglass...

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    Re: New Alpa Products being announced

    Alpa web site updated with photos and prices for the new products!!!

    http://www.alpa.ch/en/news/2010/alpa...tml?year=&num=

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    Re: New Alpa Products being announced

    The 12 STC is 18mm shift left/right (36mm total) OR 18mm rise/fall - one or the other depending on camera orientation, not both horizontal shift AND rise and fall. Max meets SWA.

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    Re: New Alpa Products being announced

    The High Precision Focusing Rings look like they will be a nice addition. I guess we need to thank Arca and the Rm3d for their groundbreaking effort and now others will have to follow.

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    Re: New Alpa Products being announced

    Quote Originally Posted by cmb_ View Post
    The High Precision Focusing Rings look like they will be a nice addition. I guess we need to thank Arca and the Rm3d for their groundbreaking effort and now others will have to follow.
    yes!
    The focus rings look really good - I'm sure they will work very well. Apparently you simply have to attach them on the regular focus ring, as I thought.
    Looking forward to using them.

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    Re: New Alpa Products being announced

    Thomas - download the price list at the bottom of the news page to which I linked on the Alpa site. From there you can see that there are three parts to the new focusing rings: the focusing ring, a scale for the focusing ring, and a focus adjustment lever. The actual focussing ring may be a new part because they make a distinction by calling it the High Precision Focussing Ring.

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    thanks!

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    Okay Alpa passed the official cool test.
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    Re: New Alpa Products being announced

    Looks very cool. Iphone holder seems a weeeeeee bit pricey.

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    Re: New Alpa Products being announced

    Quote Originally Posted by TEBnewyork View Post
    Looks very cool. Iphone holder seems a weeeeeee bit pricey.
    It's Alpa ... everything is a weeeeeee bit pricey!

    I had to buy a replacement hex bolt for my stitching adapter ... $30. It makes replacement Leica lens hoods or eyepiece magnifiers seem positively inexpensive by comparison. However, I have to say that it is at least exquisitely made.

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    Quote Originally Posted by cmb_ View Post
    The High Precision Focusing Rings look like they will be a nice addition. I guess we need to thank Arca and the Rm3d for their groundbreaking effort and now others will have to follow.

    Thanks for the update .
    It looks all very interesting and exciting .
    For me , the most important new item is the HPF ring solution , which I would like to have for my four lenses . Waiting for more price details . This solution seems to be simpler than I thought it would be .

    Looking at the fine scale , I think you will need a laser distometer in addition and a little table to give you the exact figures between the bigger marks .
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    Man, I wish I had a few dollars to my name...

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    Quote Originally Posted by GrahamWelland View Post
    It's Alpa ... everything is a weeeeeee bit pricey!

    I had to buy a replacement hex bolt for my stitching adapter ... $30. It makes replacement Leica lens hoods or eyepiece magnifiers seem positively inexpensive by comparison. However, I have to say that it is at least exquisitely made.

    It has always been more expensive to have special preferences .
    Think of exclusive wrist watches (also swiss made) or luxury cars . Just for example .
    But therefore , it is an ALPA , and in my eyes an exclusive high end piece of craftsman ship and beautiful as well .
    Regards . Jürgen .
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    Re: New Alpa Products being announced

    Jurgen,

    The truth is that I'm attracted to owning and using the best qualitative things in life such as the two other items you mentioned, watches and, for quite a while, exotic vehicles (I made it through THAT particular mid-life crisis - by comparison photography is cheap - actually I don't own a P65+ so maybe I'll should hold judgement on that for now) and so I do understand exactly what you're talking about.

    I jest about the pricing but the truth is that I'm VERY happy with my Alpa gear and absolutely appreciate the quality of design and craftsmanship every time I take it out of the bag and use it. I find shooting with it to actually be a pleasurable experience in a way that is different to shooting with my D3x or even the Leica M9 that funded this one. I've only had my system for a short while but I absolutely love it's simplicity and use in a way that other format systems just don't compare.

    With respect to the new products, the new 12 STC looks to be ideal for someone that doesn't want the bulk (or shift & rise capabilities) of the Max. Great for travel and kind of like an SWA for those wanting to stitch more often.

    The new HOF focus rings definitely look like they'll put to bed the 'focus precision' competitive argument and having actual distances on the dial should make it easier/faster to use in the field with a distometer.

    The iPhone adapter technically looks interesting although I'm not convinced it's actually for me. I'm using my iPhone to frame freely (as I would have done with a cardboard frame) and then use the Alpa viewfinder on camera to approximate to what I've seen, followed either by using the ground glass or zone focus and composition with the digital back. Fixing the iPhone in that case might not be as advantageous as expected although if you didn't have the optical viewfinder then I can see the appeal. Regarding the pricing, well it's definitely not out of line with other Alpa items such as the viewfinder, spirit levels or accessory attachments for the system. (You could argue though that they do push the limits for the small stuff even compared to our Leica friends).

    I'll lay off the price jesting now ...
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    What is the main difference between the SWA and the new STC? Is the STC that much smaller? Does one the SWA have the ability to both rise and shift at the same time - and if so, what is the main attraction of the STC?

    Great products, just wondering.

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    The SWA has front rise only, while the STC has left and right shift (or, if turned on its side, rise and fall). If you want to shoot panos, the STC allows three quick shots (left, center, right) without any change in the camera's position. So it provides the rear shift function of the Max in a smaller camera, but without the Max's front rise and fall.

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    Quote Originally Posted by GrahamWelland View Post
    The new HOF focus rings definitely look like they'll put to bed the 'focus precision' competitive argument
    The Rm3D will still achieve higher precison as the resolution of the focus ring is much higher. However for most purposes the new Apla focus rings will do fine, especially if you don't shoot wide open.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Guy Mancuso View Post
    Okay Alpa passed the official cool test.
    Those are seriously beautiful babes !!!! not just cool Guy, i'm drawling now !!
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    Quote Originally Posted by stephengilbert View Post
    The SWA has front rise only, while the STC has left and right shift (or, if turned on its side, rise and fall). If you want to shoot panos, the STC allows three quick shots (left, center, right) without any change in the camera's position. So it provides the rear shift function of the Max in a smaller camera, but without the Max's front rise and fall.
    Absolutely correct but I can add that the 12 SWA has 25mm of front rise (the lens moves up). However, the camera can be mounted upside-down so it can become 25mm of fall. Additionally, for stitching you can mount the lens on the rear of the camera and the digital back on the front of the camera - now the lens remains stationary and the back moves giving you 25mm of shift in one direction either horizontal or vertical depending on how the camera is oriented either landscape or portrait.

    Stitching 3-panels with the STC the center position will be in the center of the image circle and the left and right frames move left and right from the center. A 3-panel stitch with the 12 SWA only allows you to move in one direction away from the center of the image circle.

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    I need to start digging in my backyard see if there is any gold chunks in the ground. Of course i have to get past the dog crap first. LOL

    I tell my kids this all the time. You know that money tree in the back yard , well it's growing upside down now. LOL
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    Quote Originally Posted by cmb_ View Post
    Absolutely correct but I can add that the 12 SWA has 25mm of front rise (the lens moves up). However, the camera can be mounted upside-down so it can become 25mm of fall. Additionally, for stitching you can mount the lens on the rear of the camera and the digital back on the front of the camera - now the lens remains stationary and the back moves giving you 25mm of shift in one direction either horizontal or vertical depending on how the camera is oriented either landscape or portrait.

    Stitching 3-panels with the STC the center position will be in the center of the image circle and the left and right frames move left and right from the center. A 3-panel stitch with the 12 SWA only allows you to move in one direction away from the center of the image circle.
    The STC is a much better setup no question about it.

    Charlie time to put your order in.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Guy Mancuso View Post
    I need to start digging in my backyard see if there is any gold chunks in the ground.
    if money is a factor... why not just take anything for less money that does basically the same and even more?
    There s a lot to like about the WRS...

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    I like the WRS also. My issue is more do I really need a tech cam, that is what keeps holding me back more than anything. It's a question I been asking myself for over a year and I am not getting a resounding yes. I am a very fast shooter and on foot more than anything. It goes against my style if you know what I mean but there are times I would love to have one. When I ask myself these questions I'm just not convincing myself. Reality is I am a very careful buyer in a sense, I have to sell myself first. Which I know on the surface does not seem to fit my profile but reality is I really do my homework first. Why i keep drilling the do you homework first to folks.
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    Guy,

    I just wonder whether having only rise or shift would work for someone like yourself in a commercial setting? Wouldn't you find the either/or a restriction?

    Just playing devil's advocate here ...

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    Actually the SWA would be fine because rise and fall are pretty important. Many times I am up and need to look down. Panos are more for landscape type work but again I could cheat with either a rail setup and just slide along rail for stitching stuff or just rotate and stitch together. The STC, Arca, and WRS just make this all easier and more precise. But most times for me just a shift lens would work. Why I keep going back and forth on decisions and also want the DF setup with all the lenses I need which I need a 35mm and 300 to round it out
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    Hi Gang,

    I am really excited about all of these new Alpa products and am glad that so many of you are as well. I will be bringing into the North American market as many of the new items as i can get from the initial production runs and expect to have decent supply of all the new products quite soon or at least by the end of 2010.

    The STC is very hot and orders are already stacking up, so if you are looking forward to getting one of these soon please contact me or your dealer of choice to arrange your order.

    I will try to update in the vendors commercial sales area as items begin to come in and be available for sale.

    Way to go ALPA!

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    Hi Paul,

    When you have time can you find out if the retrofitting of the High Precision Focusing Rings to existing lenses is done by the consumer, dealer, or back at Alpa. Thanks.

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    Quote Originally Posted by cmb_ View Post
    Hi Paul,

    When you have time can you find out if the retrofitting of the High Precision Focusing Rings to existing lenses is done by the consumer, dealer, or back at Alpa. Thanks.
    +1 on that one.

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    Quote Originally Posted by cmb_ View Post
    I had a closer look to the new HPF ring image .

    I believe the above shown ring can not really be the final version .
    How can you properly set a distance which is in between the bigger marks ?
    How do you know , which distance that is ? ? ?

    Please have a look to my little drawing in the following image .
    Click twice on the image to enlarge .

    I would expect the scale to look like this .

    Attachment 35560

    X = the indicater , where you adjust the focus , your measured distance , for example using a laser distometer .

    XX = these little markers should be on that side of the focus scale as well , all over the distance range from the shortest distance to infinity , where they already exist .

    Question : what is the distance corresponding to say .859 + two of the little markers ? ? ?
    The scale is not linear , so we would need a little table with the corresponding distances as a reference .

    ALPA , please give us more details about what I described .
    Regards . Jürgen .
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    Sorry , my image had the wrong format .
    I try to upload again .

    Attachment 35561

    Ahhhh . okay this time .
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    Quote Originally Posted by jotloob View Post
    XX = these little markers should be on that side of the focus scale as well
    so on the side with the aperture indication? That would require a new focus ring design by Schneider and Rodenstock... it would also require a larger diameter of the focus ring (unless you want to use your groundglass-loupe to read the focus indication on the lens ) ... think of Rm3D.
    I think it is the final design of the focus rings. The indication is much finer than before, though there is still some room for guessing (or calculating) when it comes high precission focusing. But at closer distances you can still focus on the groundglass, too.
    I think these rings will improve things dramatically... at least for me.

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