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    >61MP image files

    I thought this is worth a separate thread which may last a while.
    Over the next weeks/ months we'll have more and more photographers/ reps/ reviewers buying and using the new Aptus-II 12 and Aptus-II 12R backs.
    I know there are many people here who are interested in seeing what this new product is capable of and do not have an easy or immediate access to it. Some simply like or need to see what the current top-end sensor/ back/ lens technology can deliver as they consider it over competitive products (for example a multi-shot camera)

    The idea is to provide raw files, however at this point in time the software required for opening them is not published yet, so initially we will have to do with full size processed images

    Here's the first one available for download:

    http://mbf.me/rj5q

    Enjoy, yair
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    Re: >61MP image files

    Thanks Yair, I've been looking forward to seeing more files from this new back. The resolution is amazing.

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    Re: >61MP image files

    Holy smokes, that's some huge resolution. You can see the woman is smiling across the river!

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    Re: >61MP image files

    Modified link with another file for download:

    http://bit.ly/aaCMbZ

    Yair

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    Re: >61MP image files

    Yair can't seem to get it . Can you try www.yousendit.com and send to me I can post it 3000pixels wide using the gallery.

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    Re: >61MP image files

    Yair is having trouble with these free public servers but he is trying to upload for me to post these up. Give it a little time and I will have them up.
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    Re: >61MP image files

    This is a small version than click on link below





    Now follow this link hit the thumbnail than click on the preview image and it will expand even bigger to 3000 pix wide

    http://forum.getdpi.com/gallery/show...hp?i=11441&c=9
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    Re: >61MP image files

    Looking at the Exif data ISO 80 shutter 1/125 80mm lens my guess a LS at F10

    More detail than you can shake a stick at
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    Re: >61MP image files

    Here is another one. Than hit that link again into the gallery. Yair has one more and I will get that up after a quick run to the airport.



    Than go here for larger. Click on image

    http://forum.getdpi.com/gallery/show...hp?i=11442&c=9


    Exif F11 ISO 8-0 at 1/125


    I want this back for the workshop Yair . LOL
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    Re: >61MP image files

    Thanks Yaya, and Guy,

    looking forward to play with the Aptus 12 just now struggling with the format, sine i Had fallen in love with the wide format of the Aptus 10,
    but I see the Aptus 12, has a bit more pixels even on the wide range, so even cropping the Vertical lines, will still give me a wider image size then the Aptus 10,
    decisions decisions hehe.

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    Re: >61MP image files

    Thanks for posting, Yair.

    All, I purchased a 5GB/48hr download rights to the site where the files are hosted, but obviously won't be able to use all the capacity in that time. You are welcome to use my code to access these files for as long as it remains valid.

    Download access code: FF48HPP116226885

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    Re: >61MP image files

    All 3 files (full size) are on my iDisk now:
    files.me.com/yshahar/sit38e
    files.me.com/yshahar/ppeag6
    files.me.com/yshahar/upmus9

    Sorry for the inconvenience

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    Re: >61MP image files

    Photography is all about experimentation and without it you will never learn art.

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    Re: >61MP image files

    WOW..look at those fabrics.. Amazing!

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    Re: >61MP image files

    The original file Yair uploaded to Idisk is a 8 bit jpeg coming in at almost 229 mg.

    Interesting the file size is 10320 x 7752 pixels
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    34.4 x 25.84 at 300 dpi. I need a bigger printer. LOL

    Just for fun at 16 bit it is a 448 mg file
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    Re: >61MP image files

    thanks for posting them, guys.

    *sighs* more and more i feel like selling off my current extra bodies and backs and getting new Aptus.. Still wont cut the cost, i guess, but will make dent in budget much smaller

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    Re: >61MP image files

    Im on a 30 inch wide gamut monitor and they are screaming detail
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    Re: >61MP image files

    It would require only 200% enlargement to get my standard print size...
    And no enlargement when stitching.
    I want one!
    Sooner or later...

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    Re: >61MP image files

    I'm trying not to look at them. Makes my P40+ seem downright like a P&S. LOL
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    Re: >61MP image files

    Quote Originally Posted by Guy Mancuso View Post
    I'm trying not to look at them. Makes my P40+ seem downright like a P&S. LOL
    Don't say that - you're scaring the heck out of my P20+

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    Re: >61MP image files

    LOL it's hiding under the blanket. LOL
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    Quote Originally Posted by Guy Mancuso View Post
    LOL it's hiding under the blanket. LOL
    I'm getting ready for a shoot this evening and the ZDb is cringing in the corner, just hoping that a bunch of p40+ don't hit the used market for X-mas .....

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    Re: >61MP image files

    I may just go for a P65+ demo or something. Or wait it out until Phase puts this sensor into use in maybe a smaller package.
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    Re: >61MP image files

    Incredible details for sure, but i am sure all new digital backs are capable of delivering those incredible details and quality, it is just that with higher mp you can print larger and then i don't know how larger i want to print when current models are more than enough and some saying it is overkill even, but sure we always wanting to see and try the highest mp available, dunno what we will say when 150-200+ mp hit the markets, then we will say that this new 80mm which is still not in the markets maybe i think is nothing much, i think the problem is not with those new DBs, the problem is with us when we always looking up and dismiss what is down, lol.
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    Re: >61MP image files

    It is a new experience having to down-res for modest size prints LOL
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    Quote Originally Posted by Guy Mancuso View Post
    I may just go for a P65+ demo or something. Or wait it out until Phase puts this sensor into use in maybe a smaller package.
    Guy smaller package as far as thinner back with bigger and better screen would be a great idea.. I would personally buy the new Leaf 80MP DB today even though that battery sticking out is just reminding me of the video cameras from early 90s.. on the other hand, (if i'm correct) Phase offer if you buy let's say P65+ today it will hold its value over 2 years so in two years you get your 90% of $$$ back against the new purchase of redesigned Phase DB and that shows confidence/business growth.. I don't think any other manufacturer can kick that as of today..

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    Re: >61MP image files

    True kind of waiting for the new sensor in a P45 crop with bigger LCD than I'm all over it but not ready to move away from the P40+ it is just about perfect for me just the 1:3 crop does bug me at times. Rather have 1:1 the P45 has.Whatever the MPX comes in at would be fine
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    Re: >61MP image files

    Just playing with the 120mm T/S today on the Aptus-II 12;

    Wide open with full tilt and a bit of rise



    Also got a full size version of this one on my iDisk; this is with the 80mm LS



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    Re: >61MP image files

    My understanding of the Phase One offer is that you will get 90% of your purchase price back on backs purchased from now on IF you are trading it on a NEW MODEL back that is released within 18 months of your purchase. This is a different offer from the usual upgrade path.
    Can anyone from Phase confirm?

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    They have added some fine print to the program, so really it could be as short as six months instead of 18 -

    ..All upgrades ordered using the Phase One Investment Protection Program must be ordered within 6 months of the announcement of the new product by Phase One..

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    Re: >61MP image files

    Quote Originally Posted by siebel View Post
    My understanding of the Phase One offer is that you will get 90% of your purchase price back on backs purchased from now on IF you are trading it on a NEW MODEL back that is released within 18 months of your purchase. This is a different offer from the usual upgrade path.
    Can anyone from Phase confirm?
    Quote Originally Posted by Joseph Woodland View Post
    They have added some fine print to the program, so really it could be as short as six months instead of 18 -

    ..All upgrades ordered using the Phase One Investment Protection Program must be ordered within 6 months of the announcement of the new product by Phase One..
    So the idea of the program is that it's a challenge for everyone that there is always some "new thing" on the horizon. But our clients, our expensive/long-anticipated trips, and our tax-savings don't always align perfectly with the timelines in which gear is released or announced.

    This program guarantees that if anything is announced that you would rather have bought that you'll have at least 90% of the value of your back, 50% of your camera, and 50% of the value of your lenses if you want to upgrade any of those components to the "new thing".

    So if you bought a 65+ today for $33k and a P900+ is released in say 16 months at $37k then you could upgrade to the P900+ for $37k minus ($33k x 90%), or $7k. In total you will have spent only $3k more than if you had "just waited" for the P900+ and during that 16 months you had a 65+ to use.**

    As noted by Joseph points out you have to make your decision for any specific upgrade within six months of any specific new product being announced. But that should be, IMO, more than enough time for you to go shoot with the new back, do some comparisons, do some research, and decide if it's worth it. It's not that small of print and appears on both the "teaser" and "full details" page of the offer, so there is no trickery to it IMO.

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    ..It's not that small of print..

    Actually it is TINY print on the home page announcement under the camera. Tiny print, small print, whatever. What it means is that you could have as little as six months protection instead of the 18 months that is being touted, but who is counting.

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    Re: >61MP image files

    Yair, please, please post some more ... great would be another image made with an alpa ... !!

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    Re: >61MP image files

    There's one in the Fun with MF images section:-)

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    Re: >61MP image files

    What?? There's a P900+ coming?!

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    Re: >61MP image files

    OK now we might start seeing some gaskets blowing here:-)

    I'm in St. Petersburg shooting with Igor Sakharov

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    Re: >61MP image files

    that really is the cat's whiskers

    (for the non-native English speakers: http://dictionary.reverso.net/englis...27s%20whiskers )

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    Re: >61MP image files

    Quote Originally Posted by yaya View Post
    OK now we might start seeing some gaskets blowing here:-)
    i want one

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    Re: >61MP image files

    Quote Originally Posted by Graham Mitchell View Post
    that really is the cat's whiskers

    (for the non-native English speakers: http://dictionary.reverso.net/englis...27s%20whiskers )

    And these are just screen grabs from my laptop, cropped and re-saved in PS (JPEG 10)...
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    Re: >61MP image files

    Wow... almost like looking through a microscope.

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    +1.
    This certainly is micro-photography. It must be really nice to be rich.
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    Quote Originally Posted by David K View Post
    Wow... almost like looking through a microscope.

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    Re: >61MP image files

    Yair, with what lens was the portrait shot? Does the Mamiya 28D resolve enough detail for this back?

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    Re: >61MP image files

    Quote Originally Posted by Paul Spinnler View Post
    Yair, with what lens was the portrait shot? Does the Mamiya 28D resolve enough detail for this back?
    Hi Paul, this was the 120mm Macro @ f14, we also have this one shot with the 110mm LS lens @ f16, check the ripples in the Sclera:

    Igor Sakharov





    Weather is getting a bit better today so I'll try to get a 28mm and shoot the nearby St. Isaac's cathedral.

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    Re: >61MP image files

    Just as the sun was coming out this morning, shot with the 45mm and as the file is so big you can do quite a lot in PS to correct the perspective...

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    Re: >61MP image files

    Some more macro/ micro work.... Igor Sakharov:



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    Re: >61MP image files

    Insane. (That's a good thing)

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    I'm not MFDB shooter but .. damn! This is mind-blowing! And I've been at Igor Sakharov's workshops - just my respect to him!

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    Quote Originally Posted by BradleyGibson View Post
    Insane. (That's a good thing)
    +1

    What camera body? What is about the price?

    I am impressed by the outdoor shots as they cannot use flash.
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    Re: >61MP image files

    Quote Originally Posted by ustein View Post
    +1

    What camera body? What is about the price?

    I am impressed by the outdoor shots as they cannot use flash.
    Hi Uwe, this last image was taken with a Phase One 645DF body and a Phase One 120mm/f4.0 Macro lens

    Contact your Leaf dealer for price and availability

    Thanks

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    Last edited by yaya; 22nd October 2010 at 22:21.
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    Re: >61MP image files

    Quote Originally Posted by yaya View Post
    Hi Uwe, this last image was taken with a Phase One 645DF body and a Phase One 120mm/f4.0 Macro lens

    Contact your LEaf dealer for price and availability

    Thanks

    yair
    This is making me to use my new Hasselblad Macro lens for portraits, i will test it very soon and see how amazing quality it will give me then.

    Thanks for those mind-blowing shots.
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