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    Maybe I can help. 2,8/80 Planar w/10mm tube, handheld. From first batch of shots...




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    Vlad:

    we are channeling the same muse. tried my first blad in 1975, had the exact same experience

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    Maybe I can help. 2,8/80 Planar w/10mm tube, handheld. From first batch of shots...
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    Michael, are these with the film back or digital? If film, which film did you use?

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    Pull the trigger! I'm evil, i know.
    Dude, I asked for help here .... you are not helping .

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    I am new to MF and the V series, but as far as I can tell, it's revitalized my passion for photography and - as with other things - the MFAS (Medium Format Acquisition Syndrom) is strong with this one. I foresee an S2 or H4D before Christmas.
    While I shot MF before, it was with the Bronica. MF definitely got me interested again. After all, the 80s style is back too

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    Quote Originally Posted by Valentin View Post
    Dude, I asked for help here .... you are not helping .
    I'm sorry! I'm sorry.

    I got into photography, professionally, after film had passed. (Assuming that film passed back in 2003-2005 period). So for me, there is no love lost. Never mind just processing the photos to get them to print or sending them to a lab, then you have to scan them, put them in a usable format and then retouch them... i can appreciate the love for film, especially for the hobbyist.. but for business, i just don't see how it makes sense. Time is money, etc...

    Especially now that the H4D31 is here... while it's a tough pill to swallow, it's never been easier to swallow that pill. Sub 10K full MFDB system?..

    But there is really nothing else like it. If you really want to keep your interest, my opinion is to pony up the cash. (If possible). If you sell a H4D31 with little clicks, you won't lose much money. Hell, rent one for a weekend and shoot parts of a wedding with it. Use Phocus, and see how it goes into your workflow. For me, after being bored with 35mm, going to MFDB has been huge, not only is it forcing me to focus on my shots more carefully, i'm getting into more technical aspects with focus-recompose, timing (only 1 frame per 1.1 seconds), and the amount of adjustability in Phocus is much different than 35mm say - in Lightroom.

    So what's my point? I think you'd only be experiencing half of the equation of MF if dealing with film. Today there are so many improvements and technological hurdles overcome with MFDB, it truly is a pleasure to get stunning imagery and enhance it even further in applications like photoshop. Oh, i forgot to mention one of my favorite subjects... retouching. Retouching skin, such a delight, all that extra resolution and sharpness due in part to having no AA filter...

    Film though?... i just can't imagine, especially now, a 35mm shooter wanting to deal with all of that. Unless you have a serious love affair with it to begin with.

    Just my .02
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    it used to be that an appealing part of MF was that you got 12 shots per roll; requiring more attention while shooting. One of the biggest changes then, in going digital, will be that you can shoot hundreds of shots as easy as twelve. Another parameter in that new equation.

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    I kid you not I have not shot one piece of film since 2000
    Photography is all about experimentation and without it you will never learn art.

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    An even cheaper way to get into MFDB: http://www.fredmiranda.com/forum/topic/940264

    Includes a lens too.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Valentin View Post
    Michael, are these with the film back or digital? If film, which film did you use?
    Now that's a pretty interesting question.

    They were actually shot with the CFV16!

    Quote Originally Posted by symbolphoto View Post
    An even cheaper way to get into MFDB: http://www.fredmiranda.com/forum/topic/940264

    Includes a lens too.
    That looks well sold by now...

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    Especially now that the H4D31 is here... while it's a tough pill to swallow, it's never been easier to swallow that pill. Sub 10K full MFDB system?..
    *******
    IMHO, from the hobbyist's view point, that is the way to go. Having the ability to shoot film as a criterion really sends you off into a dead-end and this from a person who has two rolls of film hanging in the bathroom, drying. While my CFV went on a vacation to Denmark, I shot 6 rolls of Ektar 100. Compared to digital, it was "fun" but not worth the hassle or cost.

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    Sub-10k in Euros, anyone know the $ price of the H4D-31?

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    Quote Originally Posted by symbolphoto View Post
    ..... i can appreciate the love for film, especially for the hobbyist.. but for business, i just don't see how it makes sense. Time is money, etc...
    Brandon,

    While I do like the film, I'm not going back to it because I miss it (you can see my thoughts on it on my blog). This is a specific move I'm making because I am working on introducing something that will differentiate me in my area.

    It's a tough world out there for a wedding photographer so I always work on improving my work as well as bring something different to clients.

    Part of the reason I'm looking for something that works both with film and digital is that I recognized the shortcoming of shooting film and I want that option. At this stage, I NEED the film part.

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    ^ Film is indeed making a comeback in part, "to be different." Funny how the world turns, eh?

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    It's a tough world out there for a wedding photographer so I always work on improving my work as well as bring something different to clients.
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    The best resource for that is fotografz.

    If it's wedding shooting he has done it, is doing it and as a former AD, knows the business.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Double Negative View Post
    ^ Film is indeed making a comeback in part, "to be different." Funny how the world turns, eh?
    It happens all the time in the fashion world .

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    The best resource for that is fotografz.

    If it's wedding shooting he has done it, is doing it and as a former AD, knows the business.

    Steve
    He's been a great resource of information in this thread. What's "AD"?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Valentin View Post
    Brandon,

    While I do like the film, I'm not going back to it because I miss it (you can see my thoughts on it on my blog). This is a specific move I'm making because I am working on introducing something that will differentiate me in my area.

    It's a tough world out there for a wedding photographer so I always work on improving my work as well as bring something different to clients.

    Part of the reason I'm looking for something that works both with film and digital is that I recognized the shortcoming of shooting film and I want that option. At this stage, I NEED the film part.
    Sure, just know that i'm not questioning you more than i'm trying to avoid having you spend money unnecessarily. I know that doesn't seem like the case, i just think long term.

    I wish you luck either way.

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    Quote Originally Posted by fotografz View Post
    Hasselblad V 200 series cameras ... these are focal plane type cameras that can use the faster aperture Zeiss FE lenses and with a simple modification can use a CFV digital back. Plus it can be used with all C, CF and CFE Zeiss leaf shutter lenses. It has the meter built in and can be used like a SLR with automation of exposure and shooting. (the 203FE was my favorite camera of all time, ever ... and I still miss it ).
    Marc, on a side note, I have a little bit of money to spend, and was considering a Zeiss 100MP ZF.2 for my Nikon D3, but at the same time, I still have deep feelings for the Hasselblad V system (I have 50/2.8, 110/2 and 250/4 FEs with a 2000FC/M), and always wanted either a 203FE or 205TCC/FCC. On eBay, the prices now are around 1600-1800 Euro for a nice, used chrome 203FE, which is very much on the upper edge of what I was hoping to spend. Any tips on where I might find a good price on a nice body?
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    Here' a few East Indian Wedding shots done with the CFV.

    My favorite is the horse waiting to take the Groom to the wedding ... "Reserved Parking" : -) The close-up shot where the groom is being jostled around is a tradition where he has to get past the Bride's relatives ... and in the end, must bribe them.

    I did the whole thing hand held ... used a little puff of D40 TTL flash in the dark situations, or to help freeze action.

    The ceremony took all day, and the reception was the following day. In between, I did 22" X 22" prints that were displayed on easels at the entrance to the Hall. The whole set of shots was projected on a giant room screen and I was amazed how well they held up ... vivid and sharp.

    A couple of guests told me it looked like NatGeo stuff, which made my day.

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    Marc, that's funny, we have some very similar stuff. I had a Ranger RX AS with RF3000 and Hensel Standard Reflector.. everybody during the Bharat stayed out of my way!

    http://www.symbolphoto.com/blog/2010...grapher-bliss/

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    ^^ Marc, those are great. Love the "reserved parking" shot too, heh.

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    Quote Originally Posted by symbolphoto View Post
    Sure, just know that i'm not questioning you more than i'm trying to avoid having you spend money unnecessarily. I know that doesn't seem like the case, i just think long term.

    I wish you luck either way.
    I know. Even if it's not going to work out (and that's why I'm looking for something that can take a digital back as well), $1,500 - $2,000 will not be the end of the world. $10k is too much for me to absorb as a loss (even if I resell the stuff it will still be a big loss).

    I don't plan on shooting MF full time for weddings. It's just doesn't fit the way I photograph. 35mm fits my style perfectly (and the files from the 5DII are beautiful).

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    Quote Originally Posted by Valentin View Post
    I know. Even if it's not going to work out (and that's why I'm looking for something that can take a digital back as well), $1,500 - $2,000 will not be the end of the world. $10k is too much for me to absorb as a loss (even if I resell the stuff it will still be a big loss).

    I don't plan on shooting MF full time for weddings. It's just doesn't fit the way I photograph. 35mm fits my style perfectly (and the files from the 5DII are beautiful).
    With those stipulations and the would like to "introduce something that will differentiate me in my area", Marc's suggestion:

    "A basic 503CW with 80/2.8 T* lens and 2 film backs coupled with a high-end flat bed won't suck your bank account dry, and provide a true introduction to MF with some digital ability ... then you can expand from there. Nothing will be a loss ... even the flatbed"

    seems to answer your needs. And unlike a dilettante such as myself making a suggestion, Marc has used and made money with his equipment recommendations.

    Steve

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    Quote Originally Posted by tetsrfun View Post
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    "A basic 503CW with 80/2.8 T* lens and 2 film backs coupled with a high-end flat bed won't suck your bank account dry, and provide a true introduction to MF with some digital ability ... then you can expand from there. Nothing will be a loss ... even the flatbed"

    seems to answer your needs.
    Steve
    Steve, yes.

    Here is what I'm debating between:

    1. 503CW, 80/2.8 T* with A12 and A16 backs (I like rectangular as well plus they fit nice on a 8x10) and a prism (preferably metered) for those cases of vertical shots
    2. RZ67 ProIID, 110/2.8, 6x7 and 6x6 back. What I like about this system, is that you can rotate the back for vertical shots.
    3. Mamiya 645 (I can't find what the difference is between a DF and AFD; I think DF can't take film backs but not sure), 80/2.8 and backs.

    1 and 2 gives me flexibility in formats (aspect ratio). 1 is smaller and lighter and uses Zeiss lenses. 2 can shoot vertically by rotating the back (so it doesn't require a prism) but I never held one so I don't know how the focusing with the knobs is. 3 is the cheapest out of the three.

    That's where I am right now after days of reading (I feel like my eyes will start to bleed).

    It would have been nice to have somebody to go and play with but nobody that I know have MF let alone the exact ones I'm interested in. I'll have to wait until the Photoplus expo

    Thanks again to everybody for your participation. If you have any other suggestions or opinions, please share.

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    Quote Originally Posted by fotografz View Post
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    My favorite is the horse waiting to take the Groom to the wedding ... "Reserved Parking" : -) ...

    -Marc
    Love that one ...

    I like the richness of the colors. I just ordered some Ektar film from B&H (I got to keep with my intent) and I'm curios how will the colors be.

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    Hi,

    I have a question for you: does the Mamiya (either 645 or RZ) take Zeiss lenses? Also, can you use leaf shutter lenses with the 645?

    Man, this decision game is not easy .

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    Quote Originally Posted by Valentin View Post
    Hi,

    I have a question for you: does the Mamiya (either 645 or RZ) take Zeiss lenses? Also, can you use leaf shutter lenses with the 645?

    Man, this decision game is not easy .

    I still can't find anything regarding this. I hope somebody that's familiar with these systems have an answer.

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    Why would you want to do that in the first place?

    If you want to use Zeiss lenses... buy a V body and be done with it.
    Mamiya 645 bodies are crap anyhow.

    A 500 series body can be bought for a couple hundred dollars. If you don't like it, you can sell it easily for what you paid for it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dolce Moda View Post
    Why would you want to do that in the first place?

    If you want to use Zeiss lenses... buy a V body and be done with it.
    Mamiya 645 bodies are crap anyhow.

    A 500 series body can be bought for a couple hundred dollars. If you don't like it, you can sell it easily for what you paid for it.
    Is this your version of saying no?

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    Can you find a place that rents the two or three systems and rent for a weekend? Or buy a 645 and a 500 series and one lens each and keep the one that works best for YOU. Three decades ago I used the Mamiya 645 and the last couple of years I have used a 500 C/M. For what I was doing then the 645 would have been the better choice however now the Hasselblad is. For what you want would not one of the 645 systems be more suitable for your purpose than the V system?

    As far as adapters go, I think most of them cost more than a used camera body. In addition to Mamiya there are Hasselblad, Pentax and Contax 645 as well as others. I was lucky in the first job as my employer purchased the Mamiya for our use and was able to use it for personal stuff all the time and in the Hasselblad case I started working at a place that had a system and was all digital use now so was able to play with it. As soon as I first used it I knew it was 'right' for me and my current interests. I would think if I had asked on this or any other forum what system of MF I should get I would have had all kinds of answers.

    I sometimes think it would be nice to pick up some thing like the Pentax 645D, not so much for my style of shooting but so that I can get to use the Hasselblad again (wife took it and is away until Christmas). So I am now back to borrowing from my former employer and unfortunately my friend who still works there likes it now too.

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    Quote Originally Posted by redrockcoulee View Post
    Can you find a place that rents the two or three systems and rent for a weekend? Or buy a 645 and a 500 series and one lens each and keep the one that works best for YOU...
    To rent 3 (OK, 2.5 ) systems would be a few hundred dollars. Keeping in mind that a 645AFDII is about $700, I would prefer to spend the money there.

    With that said, each system has features that are desirable to me (see bellow).

    I will be shooting mostly on location, people, bright light, and I like to shoot wide open.

    Mamiya 645
    - you can shoot portrait mode
    - high shutter speeds
    - weight
    - AF - not really important

    Hasselblad
    - Zeiss lenses
    - weight
    - high flash sync speed - not really important

    Mamiya RZ
    - you can shoot multiple formats
    - you can shoot portrait mode
    - high flash sync speed - not really important

    I don't have any friends that still have MF systems


    ETA: yes, you can shoot portrait mode with a Hassy and it's easier if you add the prism, but that would add a significant chunk to the price

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    Actually I was suggesting renting film versions. It would be more like one hundred for the two systems at weekend rates. Daily rates seem to be about 50 for the camera and one lens and most places have the weekend rate the same as a workday rate. Or rent each for one or two hours.

    This past spring I rented a X-Pan while in Montreal and determined that for me it was a camera I would rather borrow not own. Money well spent cause I also got images that I would not have otherwise.

    Monday I received a prism for the 500 C/M from KEH for $39.00 (no meter but then neither does the WLF). For just trying it out and seeing if the equipment is right for you another alternative is to purchase older models and then if you like it and wish to have newer ones you could either sell it, trade it or keep it as back ups.

    Sounds to me like you want a 645 but also the Zeiss lenses. Contax !! I have never used one and never even seen the 645 models but isn't that what you want? The lenses for the V system are not overly fast.

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    Quote Originally Posted by redrockcoulee View Post
    Actually I was suggesting renting film versions. It would be more like one hundred for the two systems at weekend rates....
    True. Calumet, which is the one that is closest, wants a deposit equal to full replacement. We are talking about a few grand here.

    It would be nice to accept my insurance policy which covers rentals.

    I'm not sure what I want

    You can make an argument for each scenario (except the AF): you can crop the square, you can add the prism ...

    One big drawback for the 503 is the 1/800th limit. Even that can be argued: ND filters

    I keep running these pros and cons in my head all day long. One minute I think I know which one I want and the next minute I'm back to square one .

    Thanks again for your input.

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    Valentin,

    If you've decide that your budget is $3000 then,really, there's no
    room for medium format digital.
    You mentioned that the reason for this move was to offer a style
    Look that was different from what your 35mm competition offers.
    With that in mind I'd seriously look to a Mamiya 7 and a lens or two-among
    the sharpest systems ever and the form factor will be a little more
    complementary to shooting available light in an event situation

    Mark
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    Quote Originally Posted by mtomalty View Post
    Valentin,

    If you've decide that your budget is $3000 then,really, there's no
    room for medium format digital.....


    ....and the form factor will be a little more
    complementary to shooting available light in an event situation

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    Hi Mark,

    I'm not 100% sure that I will use a digital back, but my intention is to do so later down the road. That is why I am looking for something that will take both film and digital.

    Also, I will not be shooting weddings/events with this system. I really love my 35mm format for that and the quality of the files is great. This will used as an add-on to what I currently offer. I'm foreseeing to shooting mostly outdoors during the day.

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    OK, dumb question: in my research, I ran across an adapter that will allow you to use the V lenses on a 645 Mamiya camera.

    Does that mean that you gain the high speed flash sync?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Valentin View Post
    OK, dumb question: in my research, I ran across an adapter that will allow you to use the V lenses on a 645 Mamiya camera.

    Does that mean that you gain the high speed flash sync?
    There are adapters that allow use of all Zeiss V mount lenses ... from both the 500 series C, CF, CFi and CFE type Leaf shutter lenses ... AND the faster max aperture 200 Series Camera F and FE series focal plane shutter Zeiss lenses. The Leaf shutter lenses are used without the Central Leaf Shutter inside the lens, and become a normal lens when mounted on a Mamiya or Contax 645 camera. In either case, operation becomes strictly manual stop down metering and shooting. There is NO high speed sync.

    -Marc

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    Re: Hasselblad system - need your advice

    Quote Originally Posted by fotografz View Post
    There are adapters that allow use of all Zeiss V mount lenses ... from both the 500 series C, CF, CFi and CFE type Leaf shutter lenses ... AND the faster max aperture 200 Series Camera F and FE series focal plane shutter Zeiss lenses. The Leaf shutter lenses are used without the Central Leaf Shutter inside the lens, and become a normal lens when mounted on a Mamiya or Contax 645 camera. In either case, operation becomes strictly manual stop down metering and shooting. There is NO high speed sync.

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    Re: Hasselblad system - need your advice

    Well, the renting route doesn't look too promising.

    I went to Calumet and they have 503CW with film back (no digital), Mamiya 645 with digital back (no film) and no RZ67.

    I was hoping to be able to rent the film version for a better comparison; the next best thing was the digital version. None it's possible ... kind of ironic reading the flyer in the elevator: All your renting needs...

    It looks like it's not going to happen.

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    I wasn't sure myself, which is why i didn't say anything, but i don't find it surprising that you can't find film backs to rent. I just don't see that being even a remote profit center for these rental shops.

    The backs go for cheap on Ebay.. but that stinks that you can't test it out. Nobody in Philly area with film gear? I'd post on LL and in here with 'Philly' in the title Valentin, you may just find someone that has some stuff laying around.

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    Try KEH.com they sell a lot of used gear
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    Quote Originally Posted by symbolphoto View Post
    I wasn't sure myself, which is why i didn't say anything, but i don't find it surprising that you can't find film backs to rent. I just don't see that being even a remote profit center for these rental shops.

    The backs go for cheap on Ebay.. but that stinks that you can't test it out. Nobody in Philly area with film gear? I'd post on LL and in here with 'Philly' in the title Valentin, you may just find someone that has some stuff laying around.
    They have the 503 with film back and I will rent that one out and play with it. I really wanted to do a side by side comparison.

    I'm trying to find somebody around with a 645 back that I can borrow since Calumet has the body/lens.

    We have a "support" group of photographers and I sent an email out. We'll see how it pans out.

    Since I WILL be buying a system, I try to keep all the unnecessary costs down. I rather spend the money on a system.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Guy Mancuso View Post
    Try KEH.com they sell a lot of used gear
    Thanks Guy. I'm trying to rent one first to help me with my decision.

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    OK. I guess I should post an update.

    I was able to only rent the 503cw. They only rent the Mamiya 645 as a digital kit. I was able to hold it at the store, but I couldn't spend time with it and shoot.

    On the 503 ... This is the first time I am shooting with Hasselblad. The WLF is giving me problems. It's not the inverted lateral view that is the problem ... it's staying level (side to side). When you combine the inverted view with leveling the subject, it gets confusing for my brain . The 45/90 prism is out of the question for hand-held photography: too much strain on my wrist.

    I have to say that it is one sexy camera, but I'm afraid I'm not going to get used to the way the image looks through WLF. Since I will not be shooting this camera all the time, I don't know if I will get used to it.

    On the 645 ... While I only held the camera at the store, it seemed to be a little heavier than the 503. The ELF works better with that camera since it has a grip. I know that you can add a grip to 503 but it will add even more to the weight and cost. When you add all this up, an H system might be a better solution than 503 w/grip.

    While at the store, I also played a little bit with a H2. That camera is so much lighter than the Mamiya and 503 and I loved the big viewfinder.

    Now, is there any difference between H2, H2F and H2D in regard to functionality/build?


    Oh, that RZ67 .... I don't know which term would better describe it: huge, humongous, tank ... that is definitely not a "on location with no tripod" camera

    Thanks for listening and for the advice. It's really helpful.

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    Don't give up on the WLF--it took me two months with the Hassy 501 as my exclusive shooter before it became instinctive. (In fact, now, with live view on point-and-shoots, I now automatically tilt the wrong way--fortunately not a problem I have to deal with very often...)

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    Re: Hasselblad system - need your advice

    "Now, is there any difference between H2, H2F and H2D in regard to functionality/build?"

    H1 uses the older battery type unless it was upgraded. Discontinued product.

    H2 is the upgraded version including a new battery. Can take most any maker's digital back and the Hassey H film backs. Can take Hassey CF backs, but not the integrated Hassey backs (can't use a H3D/39 back on a H2). Discontinued Product ... but some supplies of new H2s are still available.

    H2D is an integrated camera type (H2D/22, H2D/31, H2D/39) which cannot take a different maker's digital back ... but can take a Hassey film back. Discontinued product.

    H3D series is also integrated, and can still take a H film back. Discontinued product.

    H3D-II ... also integrated, heat sink replaces fan cooling, larger LCD, improved sensor filter ... but cannot take a film back. Discontinued, but probably available new in limited quantities.

    H2F is the current H2 version. Has most all of the current features of the later integrated H3/H3D-II cameras, and unlike the H1 and H2 it can be used with all of the later D lenses like the 28mm and 35-90 as well as the HTS/1.5, but unlike the H3D-IIs and H4Ds it can take a Hassey H film back. Can use a Hassey CF back. Cannot take other maker's digital backs, (at least not since I last checked).

    -Marc

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    Re: Hasselblad system - need your advice

    Quote Originally Posted by fotografz View Post
    "Now, is there any difference between H2, H2F and H2D in regard to functionality/build?"

    H1 uses the older battery type unless it was upgraded. Discontinued product.

    H2 is the upgraded version including a new battery. Can take most any maker's digital back and the Hassey H film backs. Can take Hassey CF backs, but not the integrated Hassey backs (can't use a H3D/39 back on a H2). Discontinued Product ... but some supplies of new H2s are still available.

    H2D is an integrated camera type (H2D/22, H2D/31, H2D/39) which cannot take a different maker's digital back ... but can take a Hassey film back. Discontinued product.

    H3D series is also integrated, and can still take a H film back. Discontinued product.

    H3D-II ... also integrated, heat sink replaces fan cooling, larger LCD, improved sensor filter ... but cannot take a film back. Discontinued, but probably available new in limited quantities.

    H2F is the current H2 version. Has most all of the current features of the later integrated H3/H3D-II cameras, and unlike the H1 and H2 it can be used with all of the later D lenses like the 28mm and 35-90 as well as the HTS/1.5, but unlike the H3D-IIs and H4Ds it can take a Hassey H film back. Can use a Hassey CF back. Cannot take other maker's digital backs, (at least not since I last checked).

    -Marc

    Thank you Marc. I really appreciate it.

    So, if I got it right, it seems that I should look for either H2 or H2F

    H2 - can take third party backs (digital) but no D lenses (to be honest I don't even know what that means at this point)
    H2F - Hassy backs only but can take new type lenses.

    Man, it gets more difficult, not any easier

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