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    Some S2 Images

    Guy asked to see some of my S2 images. Please be aware that I am still learning the camera so not all are technically correct. All are processed in Lightroom 3.2

    Enjoy and critique please

    Woody Spedden

    Whoops.........The Church Rock black and white is actually from the D3X with a 100mm Zeiss lens

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    This one is my favorite..


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    oh my god...

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    Hey Woody,

    Great to see you posting some images from the S2. These are beautiful and I hope you will follow them up as you familiarize yourself with the new kit. A little birdy told me that you had made this move and I've been wondering where you've been. Would love to hear your thoughts on the camera as you progress. Oh yeah, congratulations !!!!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by David K View Post
    Hey Woody,

    Great to see you posting some images from the S2. These are beautiful and I hope you will follow them up as you familiarize yourself with the new kit. A little birdy told me that you had made this move and I've been wondering where you've been. Would love to hear your thoughts on the camera as you progress. Oh yeah, congratulations !!!!!
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    Thanks for posting. It's great to see real world S2 images appear on the net, even if they are small jpgs.

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    Re: Some S2 Images

    Hi Woody,
    I've missed you. I really loved working with the S2 when I had a demo. Enjoy it!!!!!!

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    Nice stuff Woody! I thought you said the weather was terrible. Doesn't look so bad to me....

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    Woody,
    Thanks for posting the images!

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    A true Leica Phile! Nice to see you posting Woody.

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    Hi Woody
    I didn't know you had an S2 - congratulations, I'd like one myself, but I've realised that any flavour of MF really doesn't suit my flippant shooting style.

    These shots look great (as far as it goes).

    I hope you're having a wonderful time with it (I spent two hours with one and thought it gorgeous).

    all the best

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    Congratulations Woody!

    I tried one myself last week and I had only the best impressions. This became a great camera finally and will become a great system over the future. I might want to do this switch as well, I loved the S2 as much!!!!

    Enjoy and keep posting and sharing your impressions and findings.

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    Thanks to all for you comments and praise.

    I have shot all the best 35mm systems and now, getting to look at the S2 files every day, I realize there is no comparison. 35mm still has its place as the MF gear doesn't do it all but whenever it is possible to shoot the S2 that is what I will choose.

    One thing to note about the images, if you click on the boys (my grandboys) in the BMX bike competition above, you will see (I think) marvelous color and dynamics. This is straight from the camera and then processed in Lightroom 3.2. But no changes were made except to lighten the face of my grandson. Pretty special I think although this may be more a function of MF as opposed to the S2. I don't have the experience to know never having shot Phase/Mamiya gear.

    My reasons for selecting the Leica S2 was the quality of the lenses and the superb ergonomics of the body. It is very rugged and of course weather sealed. This really suits me because primarily I am a landscape shooter.

    So I will continue to post and I expect future images to be much better.

    And David Farkas, this shot of the Tetons was done in the best weather we saw in the 10 days we were out and you can see that the peaks were in clouds even then. But I did the best that I could with what God gave me.

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    Re: Some S2 Images

    Great to see your post, Woody.

    While there is a lot of back and forth on this and other forums about the strengths and weaknesses of various systems, it still comes down to what is right for each individual. There are certainly features in the S2 that will make it appealing to certain end users and not to others. The same with Phase and Hasselblad systems. Charge full steam ahead with your eagerness and excitement in using the system.

    It seems that anyone posting about the S2 for the longest time had to include a paragraph of rationalization. Thankfully, the tide seems to have turned.

    And, please don't ever feel like you have to apologize for the photos that you've shown us ... they need no apologies, footnotes or qualifications. They are very nice images.

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    Quote Originally Posted by woodyspedden View Post
    I did the best that I could with what God gave me.
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    Maybe you need to pray more often... seems to have worked quite well for this fellow

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    Quote Originally Posted by KurtKamka View Post
    Great to see your post, Woody.

    While there is a lot of back and forth on this and other forums about the strengths and weaknesses of various systems, it still comes down to what is right for each individual. There are certainly features in the S2 that will make it appealing to certain end users and not to others. The same with Phase and Hasselblad systems. Charge full steam ahead with your eagerness and excitement in using the system.

    It seems that anyone posting about the S2 for the longest time had to include a paragraph of rationalization. Thankfully, the tide seems to have turned.

    And, please don't ever feel like you have to apologize for the photos that you've shown us ... they need no apologies, footnotes or qualifications. They are very nice images.

    Kurt

    Well said Kurt.

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    It's great to see your photos from the S2 Woody. It appears you are getting along quite nicely with the camera. Really nice photos.

    Who would have thought on our Germany Trip back in 2007 that we would be shooting a Leica medium format SLR today. Ain't it great.

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    Well you still need to hook me. LOL

    Maybe S3
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    Quote Originally Posted by Guy Mancuso View Post
    Well you still need to hook me. LOL

    Maybe S3
    of course.

    Still, I understand Woody - If I was considering going to MF (which I'm not). Then I'd want it almost exclusively for landscape, which would mean it would have to work in the rain / dust etc. It would have to be reasonably compact, and the lenses would need to be rain/dust protected as well.
    I wouldn't want all the other bells and whistles particularly, so that, if I could afford it, the S2 would provide things that I DO want which aren't available elsewhere, without presenting many limitations.

    Actually, I would also have been using it at the wedding I was doing over the weekend . . in the pouring rain!

    On the other hand - from your point of view it's a very expensive way of getting a camera which is missing lots that you do want, without providing much extra, for a lot of money - not very enticing!

    erm, what I'm trying to say is that for some of us the S2 is a more attractive proposition than any of the other MF options.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Guy Mancuso View Post
    Well you still need to hook me. LOL

    Maybe S3
    How about a Neiman Marcus S2 that comes with a couple of pairs of Manolo Blahnik shoes for the wife

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    Quote Originally Posted by woodyspedden View Post
    Guy asked to see some of my S2 images. Please be aware that I am still learning the camera so not all are technically correct. All are processed in Lightroom 3.2

    Enjoy and critique please

    Woody Spedden

    Whoops.........The Church Rock black and white is actually from the D3X with a 100mm Zeiss lens
    Making judgements on JPEG images at this size is almost impossible.

    Having said that, the skin in the BMX shot, tones and modelling, looks as though itís airbrushed. If this is straight out of camera I'd be worried.

    Woody, what I will say is that I preferred the tonal qualities of your version of Church Rock (D3X?) to Guy's. FWIW, I found Guy's version too contrasty making the highlights look like snow. There again, judgement is again based on web sized JPEGs and therefore fairly meaningless. In fairness, perhaps we shouldn't do it?

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    FWIW, handled one of these cameras in NYC a couple of months ago, and sure glad I wasn't shopping. Nice form factor - nothing I would have been interested in, except once holding it, it was pretty lovely.

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    Quote Originally Posted by KeithL View Post
    Making judgements on JPEG images at this size is almost impossible.

    Having said that, the skin in the BMX shot, tones and modelling, looks as though itís airbrushed. If this is straight out of camera I'd be worried.

    Woody, what I will say is that I preferred the tonal qualities of your version of Church Rock (D3X?) to Guy's. FWIW, I found Guy's version too contrasty making the highlights look like snow. There again, judgement is again based on web sized JPEGs and therefore fairly meaningless. In fairness, perhaps we shouldn't do it?
    Keith

    If you wish, I would be happy to provide you with the raws so you can better see the real file quality. The bad skin rendering on my Grandson's face was due to the fact that the original face was almost black and pulling it up created all kinds of problems. But his mom wanted a photo where you could at least see his face so..............there we are. I will post the original so you can see the real image without this extreme manipulation.

    Kurt

    Thanks so much for your insightful comments. As we go back a long way you know that my standards are very high and the truth is that I am still learning MF in general and the S2 in particular so I expect my future images to be much better. I will keep posting so you can see the progress.

    To everyone

    Thanks for your comments and critiques. They are very helpful. I should also mention that in addition to what I have already said about the S2 features, its viewfinder, IMO, is second to none. What a pleasure to use.

    Woody Spedden

    In the new BMX photo there is no processing at all save the conversion in lightroom 3.2. No processing at all including sharpening. So what you see is fundamentally what the S2 is capable of producing.
    Last edited by woodyspedden; 5th October 2010 at 15:21.

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    Quote Originally Posted by woodyspedden View Post
    ...The bad skin rendering on my Grandson's face was due to the fact that the original face was almost black and pulling it up created all kinds of problems. But his mom wanted a photo where you could at least see his face so..............there we are....
    By comparing the two images, it looks like you used the adjustment brush in LR. I would personally "develop" two copies of the same image and do any adjustments in PS.

    Also, if she prints this image larger, you could see the face and might look OK. On a web sized image or 4x6 print, there is not much you can see.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Valentin View Post
    By comparing the two images, it looks like you used the adjustment brush in LR. I would personally "develop" two copies of the same image and do any adjustments in PS.

    Also, if she prints this image larger, you could see the face and might look OK. On a web sized image or 4x6 print, there is not much you can see.
    Thanks Valentin

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    Quote Originally Posted by woodyspedden View Post
    Keith

    If you wish, I would be happy to provide you with the raws so you can better see the real file quality. The bad skin rendering on my Grandson's face was due to the fact that the original face was almost black and pulling it up created all kinds of problems. But his mom wanted a photo where you could at least see his face so..............there we are. I will post the original so you can see the real image without this extreme manipulation.
    Woody, I wasn't only referring to the boy's face, it seems to me that all the skin in the shot looks airbrushed, but as I said my impression is only based on what's in front of me.

    Thanks for the offer of the RAW but I'm only working with Phocus 2. Perhaps you could post a few full sized jpeg crops here?

    And I still prefer your Church Rock...

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